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Originally Posted by Nite Wraith

Okay, my apologies, I don't have internet access at work, and I've been posting on my phone all day, and emotes don't show, the code for them are just two white squares
So, I didn't know you were just teasing. Sorry for being defensive.

I do understand what you're saying, you can't please everyone of course, and as long as these suggestion forums are open there's always going to be people wanting change to suit them, and there's going to be counter arguments.

I do like the vet rewards and don't believe it should be removed and made purchasable, I just think that it could be done to please the majority.

Originally Posted by goldbricker

I was just thinking about this, and I came to the following conclusion:

Short form:

I suggest that the trade window interface be modified so that it can be reused as the attachment for emails. I further suggest the respec sequence be adjusted so that any leftover unslotted enhancements, instead of being auto sold for inf, be instead automatically added into such a trade window attachment to an email automatically sent to the respec'ed character.

Longer form:

I essentially propose the email attachments be redesigned so that one attaches a multi-purpose container instead of a single item and/or a single quantity of inf. Coincidentally, the trade window acts as a half-decent multi-purpose container already, and probably already has a number of nice safety/tracking features already built in. Hopefully it wouldn't be too difficult to adjust the trade window interface into something that can be attachable by reference.

Emails could be hypothetically redesigned so that the attachment part opens up a (modified) trade window. The player can then add any number of enhancements or salvage or recipes or inf all in one container, and thus all in one email.

If this kind of attachment were to be produced, then it would be a very valuable quality-of-life effort to allow the respec system to use it as well.

Once a player is done with a respec, currently the game will auto sell any leftover, unslotted enhancements that were not moved to the limited-to-10 enhancement inventory. But with such attachment containers in the email system, it would be more valuable to the player if the game instead autogenerated a single email (to be delivered to the respec'ed character) and auto-packaged any leftover enhancements into the email's attachment.

This would mean a player can completely unslot a toon and recover all of the enhancements safely with just a single respec. This saves the player time (in many cases a *lot* of time) and headache and insulates the player from the cost of making mistakes.

One aspect of the trade window that would have to be changed is how the player claims the contents. Currently the claim action is all or nothing, and will fail if the player doesn't have enough inventory space for everything in the container at the same time. It would therefore be of high priority for the devs to add in a per-item claim function, so the player has the flexibility of selectively claiming what part(s) of the container he needs at any one time. And any per-item claim function would have to be properly fenced off so that regular face-to-face trade sessions are safe from bait-and-switch shenanigans.

Of course if the devs modify the trade window, it might be nice for them to throw in extra features like a button per item that the player can click to have the game do a quick search on the last 5 market prices for that item.

Personally, I find one of my biggest struggles in this game is that most of my toons are stuck in an obsolete and/or poor build, often caught with poor partial-slotting. I don't feel like I can get much fun from them because they're far weaker than I plan them to be. And it's just so hard to correct slotting problems or even to get inventory redistributed properly to the toons that need specific inventory. The very high difficulty inherent in managing this is enough to turn me off even trying to manage beyond one or two toons. This kind of change would be of profound help to me.

Originally Posted by Nite Wraith

How am I ******** and moaning? I'm making a suggestion and setting you straight. If anyone is moaning and whining it's you for the way you objected to my post and now you're trying to pick a fight with me. If you don't like my idea, just say so, don't try and start somthing.

Originally Posted by Nite Wraith

I'm sorry, do you know me? No, you don't. So don't assume that I'm a moaner, I am but I moan about stuff a lot more important than issues with this game. Thank you

Originally Posted by Nite Wraith

I've just started on my third month playing this game, and 22nd of June, I get my trenchcoats for all characters. Somthing I've been looking forward to. Now whilst I'm one of these buggers with a credit card who has purchased all booster packs and the Mac SE item pack, I would not want to see the vet rewards become purchasable.

However, I do agree with changing it to a points system. Because while I look forward to getting the 15 month wings reward, I'm not too keen on the greek alphabet or the boxing costume kit, I know some are but I'm not.

You should earn say 15 points per month. Costume peices cost 15 points, perma powers cost 30 points, 45 points and 60 points, depending on how prestigeous they are.

Having a reward system like that would certainly make me stay

Originally Posted by nightowl317

got it. thanks guys

Originally Posted by nightowl317

I thought that CoH and CoV share the same market based on a couple people's comments here on the boards, despite being called different names (WW and BM), but someone in-game told me the other day that they do NOT share the same "space". So who's lying?

Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina

Thanks.

I'm thinking about this, and am also becoming more neutral about it.

There may be a significant number of people that play multiples for alt purposes, but there are none that have told me they do it in game. It's possible that they are an extreme minority.

You could also say that the idea would encourage more alts, even tons of them. I would probably roll alts more freely with 100 slots.

So there's no way to say how effective this would be without knowing just how much immigration there is.


That would work well. It has the advantage over CO's system in that it allows dimensions to build up communities, which makes it easier to find those who want to do the sorts of things you want to do.

Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven

That's the only comment you could muster in opposition to this idea?

Personally, while I don't think the idea is explained or as fleshed out as it could be, it does have merit. It would be nice, to have maybe 3 extra powers per powerset to add in a bit more variability. Maybe I don't want [Bonfire] I could pick one of these alternate powers instead. Would it be a lot of work? Probably, but it would also add a lot more build fexibility that one would get waaaaay before hitting 41 and the Epic pools.

Give the idea a chance, and help him flesh it out instead of berrating it on it's face before he even gets it off the ground. People needn't post an idea ONLY after it is flawless. After all, what would there be to discuss? I think we should start to encourage active brainstorming in the Suggestions forum a lot more than we do... instead of simply flashing our e-peens and making people feel like sub-human morons for not thinking of everythign before posting an idea.

(Please note that the majority of that was not directed at the posters I quoted, but instead the general idea of post and posters like those.)

Originally Posted by Dr_HR

WHAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF VET REWARDS...answer that..and you get the answer to this and many other threads...Jeez why are people that dumb now a days

Originally Posted by Generic Forum User 02

Show me where I claim that the dots are a representation of population, I was merely stating that freedom has been upgraded and probably wont get onto yellow dots - if anything Je saist had claimed that it was a sign of population. Yes I said that the lower populated servers are at the top of the servers list no I didn't relate that to the dots that was you're own little addition.

Originally Posted by Ehina

Thanks for your answer guys.

I remember very well one or two years ago when players were asking for a mail feature to move enhancements and influence from one character to another. They were promptly replied that the devs had already stated they didnt want it, that for many "good" reasons, and they shouldnt be asking anymore. Well, now we've just got that mail feature with i17.

Originally Posted by Generic Forum User 02

First of all considering freedoms server was more or less recently upgraded I doubt it'll get to yellow dots again for a while and as the server list is from least populated to most populated its likely the new player will start off on a not-so populated server, secondly if a new player likes the new server he or she has started on they have every right to want to stick to that server and that server only and you or anybody else can't argue against that its there 15 odd dollars a month. Stupid theories are stupid.

Originally Posted by je_saist

I do see how Chaos came to that conclusion.

One of the reasons Freedom and Virtue pull so much of the perceived population... is that they are popular. Imagine if you will a new player whose never seen the game before logging in for the first time on a Saturday night. They see the Yellow dots on Freedom and Virtue, and think to themselves something of the effect that "those must be good servers, I'll go play there." New player turns around and tell all their friends about CoH and recommend friends come play on the same server with them.

New player looks through all the archtypes and they wind up making multiple characters, getting a quick bout of "alt-itis", and thus run out of space for all their new characters. So, faced with the choice of spending more money, or trying a different server, most players think, "I'll try a different server", and do so. There they find different people, with different play-styles, and different play-times.

Chaos highlights the concern that allowing players to move slots around would allow certain players to aggregate to one server or another. A good, or depending on your point of view, bad case example was witnessed with the free server transfers earlier this year. As the PvP'ers spoke to one another and moved to Freedom, other players picked up and moved off.

Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina

This idea would lead to even greater concentration of populations to Freedom and Virtue.

Originally Posted by optigray

Alright, so after playing fairly extensively the last two evenings home from work, I went ahead and upgraded my account. What a fun game!

I have 4 characters on the Virtue server, and my global is @Nitronus. Feel free to drop me a line! I got my sister trying the game out via the trial, which I agree is very limited in scope when compared to the official game, but we should have a server picked out soon enough.

Thanks for all the kind words and help!

Originally Posted by plainguy

I mean really how many ways can you play a Earth Rad controller.

I hope I made some sense through this rambling.

Originally Posted by rsclark

You playing the game doesn't produce value except to yourself, so externally, the value is zero. That seems a good starting place for setting a price point.

Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill

Nope. You're not wrong. I'm just running under the assumption that a temporary suspension also shows as "banned." However, I'd avoid discussion as it might be seen as "discussion of mod actions."