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thanks, although im considering whether to stay on defiant or leave for union, im not quite sure yet

basically i played on defiant for a couple of years, took a 1 year break then came back recently because of new content but my old SG is pretty much dead and the only teams i could get were from defiant events (which is great btw) but i would like a active SG to do regular missions with even if its RP or whatever, im just sick of playing alone with the occasional TF thrown in

even before logging in a can tell union is more active, (2 yellow dots instead of 1 green) so im hoping a active SG or even a regular team will take pity on me and take me under there wing, all of my 50s and high level toons are on definat but i dont mind starting over as long as i can actually play with some people

if not, i just wasted money reactivating and buying GR

also, i already joined the active channels, union chat, union task force etc but...nothing yet

i doubt anyone will read this but i thought i would update anyway

i tried infernal again, went much better but the results were the same

this time i popped one purple just to push me into the soft cap defence and what a difference it made, i even managed to accidentally spawn 15 or 20 demons and had all my toggles drop after hitting conserve power to late and still managed to stay alive

i got him down to about 25% health before the purples ran out

anyway this has opened my eyes, the regen i have was fine for when i got hit, i just need to squeez more defence in there

I dont mean to thread jack but this seemed like the perfect place to post

i have built a DB/WP made for soloing AV's among other things

once the build was complete i tried going against infernal
got him to 80% health before he got me

even with 2 minions and infernal surrounding me and having 43% smashing/lethal defence if he was lucky enough to hit me twice before my regen got me to a decent amount of hp i would go down, so i was considering aid self to fill that hole but i would like to get some advice/comments on my current build

funny enough i was able to solo a MA mission made soley of lvl 54 tank smashers and noise tanks but i guess they dont compare

FYI, the empty slot in sweeping strike is that chance for - res IO that came with i14


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dual Blades
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Power Slice <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (21) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (21) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 1: High Pain Tolerance <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal[*] (7) Aegis - Resistance[*] (7) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery[*] (13) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance[*] (19) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge[*] (37) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance[/list]Level 2: Ablating Strike <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (11) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage[*] (15) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff[/list]Level 4: Mind Over Body <ul type="square">[*] (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance[*] (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge[*] (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 6: Fast Healing <ul type="square">[*] (A) Miracle - +Recovery[*] (15) Healing IO[/list]Level 8: Blinding Feint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[*] (34) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)[/list]Level 10: Indomitable Will <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 12: Hurdle <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 14: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO[/list]Level 16: Rise to the Challenge <ul type="square">[*] (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge[*] (17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal[*] (17) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance[/list]Level 18: Vengeful Slice <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (19) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[*] (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[*] (48) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)[/list]Level 20: Quick Recovery <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge[*] (42) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy[*] (45) Performance Shifter - EndMod[*] (45) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge[*] (45) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge[/list]Level 22: Combat Jumping <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[*] (23) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range[*] (36) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[*] (40) Defense Buff IO[/list]Level 24: Super Jump <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range[*] (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[*] (25) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)[/list]Level 26: Sweeping Strike <ul type="square">[*] (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (27) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage[*] (27) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (31) Damage Increase IO[*] (31) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage[*] (37) Empty[/list]Level 28: Heightened Senses <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense[*] (29) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance[*] (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 30: Boxing <ul type="square">[*] (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage[*] (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance[*] (43) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus[*] (50) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge[/list]Level 32: Maneuvers <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed[*] (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense[*] (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance[*] (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 35: Tough <ul type="square">[*] (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance[*] (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge[*] (43) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 38: Weave <ul type="square">[*] (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance[*] (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense[*] (40) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed[*] (40) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 41: Confront <ul type="square">[*] (A) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range[*] (42) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (42) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge[*] (46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt[*] (46) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Range[*] (50) Mocking Beratement - Recharge[/list]Level 44: Strength of Will <ul type="square">[*] (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%[/list]Level 47: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End[*] (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod[*] (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge[/list]Level 49: Conserve Power <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (50) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Empty[/list]Level 1: Critical Hit



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[ QUOTE ]
I thought the message was clear enough - access to the server is restricted to staff accounts while they test todays build. There's not much more than that we can tell you

[/ QUOTE ]

i've gotten messages like that before and it only took repeat log-in attempts to solve also, i havnt been in game today so i didnt get the in game maintenance message, i've looked on the forums and the only maintenance i see is the Play NC store (i probably missed it) and to top it off the server status page shows all servers running fine so no, the message isnt really clear, atleast for me

is there maintenance i have failed to notice? server status says all of them are up so is the problem on my end?

basically when i click on my character and hit "enter paragon city" i get "account ******** is not allowed on this server. reason: access to this server is rescricted etc......

there hasnt been any announcements that i could find so what could be the problem?

wow, so thats it? all my stuff is gone for good?

i've been gone from the game for about 6 months and came back recently, checked my farmer and everything seemed fine untill i got to the auction house and checked my stock to find everything is gone

being a farmer i had purples ammong other rares in stock but i cant remember exactly what but i am 100% certain that i didnt leave it empty

i have considered my account being hacked but then why leave the 320 million i had in influence? i have a second farmer who is in the same boat

so whats the best course of action? contact a GM? a red name on these forums or can nothing be done?

any useful help would be nice

[ QUOTE ]
Its short duration mkes it useless now imo, the only reason I'd get mog would be to clutch in a lotg +rech if I had nothing else to get

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I have to disagree with this, having experienced the new MoG for and against me. yes, it does have a short duration but with 3 rechs and IOs (if u go that way) u can make it come back in seconds

also, you can use MoG more creativly because of it shorter rech e.g your fighting a blaster, he pops aim + build up now here u can use MoG to soak the damage with its 75% resistance instead of taking full damage, thats just one example someone above alrdy mentioned another one

so, IMHO it is far from useless or just an IO placer if you use it creatively and invest some rech IOs

This is my current fire/psi build which has been requested in-game. it isn't the best build and i will probably tweak it when i can be bothered


Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Level 50 Natural Dominator
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Psionic Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Char -- Entrpc-Heal%:35(A), Entrpc-Acc/Dmg:35(3), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx:35(3), Entrpc-Dmg/Rchg:35(19), Entrpc-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(23), Acc-I:50(25)
Level 1: Psionic Dart -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Dam%:53(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg:53(7), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:53(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:53(9), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:53(9)
Level 4: Mind Probe -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:53(A), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx:53(5), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg:53(5), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:53(36), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg:53(42)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(11), RechRdx-I:50(13), RechRdx-I:50(13), RechRdx-I:50(37)
Level 8: Hot Feet -- TmpRdns-Acc/Dmg/Slow:53(A), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:53(15), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(19), TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow:53(33), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow:53(50)
Level 10: Challenge -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(A), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(43), Mocking-Taunt:50(43), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(43), Mocking-Rchg:50(45)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg:50(A), Stpfy-Acc/Rchg:50(15), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun:50(17), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx:50(17), Stpfy-Stun/Rng:50(21)
Level 14: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def:50(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:50(29), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:50(29), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), EndMod-I:50(21)
Level 22: Tactics -- AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx:50(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg:50(23), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33), AdjTgt-ToHit:50(46)
Level 24: Drain Psyche -- Acc-I:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal:50(25), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(27), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg:50(31), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(33), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36)
Level 26: Vengeance -- RedFtn-Def:53(A), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx:53(34), RedFtn-Def/Rchg:53(34), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg:53(34), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:53(37)
Level 28: Subdue -- Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(A), Decim-Build%:40(37), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx:40(39), Decim-Dmg/Rchg:40(39), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(39)
Level 30: Cinders -- RechRdx-I:50(A), EoCur-Acc/Hold/Rchg:50(40), EoCur-Acc/Rchg:50(40), G'Wdw-Acc/Rchg:50(40)
Level 32: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Psionic Lance -- Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:53(A), Mantic-Acc/Dmg:53(36), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx:53(45), Mantic-Acc/ActRdx/Rng:53(45), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg:50(48)
Level 38: Psychic Shockwave -- C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg:50(A), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg:50(42), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg:50(46), M'Strk-Dmg/Rchg:50(48)
Level 41: Power Sink -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(46), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(50), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(50)
Level 47: Summon Mu Guardian -- RechRdx-I:40(A)
Level 49: Charged Armor -- ResDam-I:50(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]<ul type="square">[*]+9% DamageBuff[*]+1.26% Defense(Smashing)[*]+1.26% Defense(Lethal)[*]+1.58% Defense(Fire)[*]+1.58% Defense(Cold)[*]+0.95% Defense(Energy)[*]+0.95% Defense(Negative)[*]+7.2% Max Endurance[*]+34% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*]+4% Enhancement(Heal)[*]+75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[*]+1.5% Enhancement(Slow)[*]+3% Enhancement(Stun)[*]+49.7 (4.13%) HitPoints[*]+MezResist(Confused) (Mag 2.75%)[*]+MezResist(Held) (Mag 2.75%)[*]+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 9.35%)[*]+MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 1.65%)[*]+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 3.85%)[*]+9% Recovery[*]+22% Regeneration[*]+6.93% Resistance(Fire)[*]+6.93% Resistance(Cold)[*]+1.26% Resistance(Energy)[*]+1.26% Resistance(Negative)[/list]------------
[u]Set Bonuses:[u]
[u]Entropic Chaos[u]
(Char)<ul type="square">[*] +10% Regeneration[*] +MezResist(Confused) (Mag 2.75%)[*] +2.25% Max Max Endurance[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Positron's Blast[u]
(Fire Cages)<ul type="square">[*] +2.5% Recovery[*] +1.575% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Crushing Impact[u]
(Mind Probe)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.2%)[*] +13.6 (1.13%) HitPoints[*] +7% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Tempered Readiness[u]
(Hot Feet)<ul type="square">[*] +1.5% Recovery[*] +1.5% Enhancement(Slow)[*] +0.9% Max Max Endurance[*] +3.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Mocking Beratement[u]
(Challenge)<ul type="square">[*] +1.8% Max Max Endurance[*] +MezResist(Held) (Mag 2.75%)[*] +1.26% Def( Smash, Lethal)[*] +1.575% Def( Fire, Cold)[*] +7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Stupefy[u]
(Flashfire)<ul type="square">[*] +2.5% Recovery[*] +22.6 (1.88%) HitPoints[*] +3% Enhancement(Stun)[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Red Fortune[u]
(Maneuvers)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.2%)[*] +1.26% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +2% DamageBuff[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Adjusted Targeting[u]
(Tactics)<ul type="square">[*] +2% DamageBuff[*] +1.26% Res(Energy, Neg)[*] +9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Doctored Wounds[u]
(Drain Psyche)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 2.2%)[*] +1.26% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +4% Enhancement(Heal)[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Red Fortune[u]
(Vengeance)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.2%)[*] +1.26% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +2% DamageBuff[*] +5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Decimation[u]
(Subdue)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 2.75%)[*] +13.6 (1.13%) HitPoints[*] +2.25% Max Max Endurance[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Essence of Curare[u]
(Cinders)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 1.65%)[/list][u]Sting of the Manticore[u]
(Psionic Lance)<ul type="square">[*] +12% Regeneration[*] +0.945% Def(Energy, Neg)[*] +3% DamageBuff[*] +7.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list][u]Multi Strike[u]
(Psychic Shockwave)<ul type="square">[*] +MezResist(Sleep) (Mag 1.65%)[/list][u]Positron's Blast[u]
(Ball Lightning)<ul type="square">[*] +2.5% Recovery[*] +1.575% Res(Fire, Cold)[*] +9% Enhancement(Accuracy)[*] +6.25% Enhancement(RechargeTime)[/list]


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Ouch sounds like a bad night for crystal_cat

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im not trying to rub salt in the wounds or anything but we all knew the outcome of this before anyone reached test...well except crystal_cat it seems

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Tainted Greek and Spag

Yes, I suppose ganking the hell out of him will not be a bad thing in such a case ... only problem from what I've seen is that when ever the villains defaint side get this certain player in a hectic hold or are near to killing him, that he teleports himself away in a jiffy

I am kinda waiting for a ice and thermal defender to join the little base parking empath so he can have the full array of buffs

Will start posting pictures of this "offender" soon :P hehehe

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Damn, i wanna see who this is for some reason
make with the pictures already

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theres been no word by the devs which states "we are looking into buffing banes in the near future" so until then i sont expect threads like this one to end.

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So... the devs not having yet announced a fix for a single sub-archetype that's only a couple of days out of the Test server is sufficient justification for a 'devs h8 villunz' whine of epic proportions?

Report the problem, sure, and hope for a fix, but for the love of (insert appropriate deity here) ease off on the paranoia and let the poor devs get n with their jobs without a torrent of abuse.

NOTE: Second paragraph was less a response to the guy I quoted, and more a response to the thread in general.

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no one needs justification to make threads like this one even if they are "devs hate vills" this is the internet yo

personally though i said i dont expect threads like this to end doesnt mean i think it justified

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Unless you're going for a Crab Spider and have no need for 10% defense... or maybe that's "just the way I role"...

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even then 16% defence (when slotted) will complement what ever your crab has even if its all resistance also, it will help out your whole team and any pets you might have as well

theres been no word by the devs which states "we are looking into buffing banes in the near future" so until then i sont expect threads like this one to end.

Personally i still like banes more then any other VEAT even taking into account there waekness so if a buff does come eventually it will just be icing for me

i agree with the "if you can only get one leadership toggle just get the tactical training one ASAP". the whole team benefits including you it, costs less end then the pool version and it stacks with any other defence you or the team might have

theres really no good reason not to take it

the thing im dissapointed about is the banes we get are nothing like the ones u fight in game in terms of survivability, the defence/resistance valus are so low that if our versions were the NPC's they would probably be farmed...well maybe not but you get my point...right?

Also, im praying the Devs see the error of there ways and buff banes soon, i have no interest in the other VEATs so the banes are it for me

the gift horse in the mouth thing huh? i wouldnt mind so much if they didnt give with one hand and nerf with the other

The thing is i and many others realize that the banes are sub par compared to the other VEATS in defence and resistance and we were ok with that since our placate was so awesome now, like someone said we are gimped mace/EA stalkers with no heal and no tier 9.

and the worst thing for me is i dont really like any of the other VEAT's so much and yes i have tried them all(the crab is ok) my bane on test was where i felt at home and now hes worthless unless i spend millions on rech IOs, defence, resistance and even then, those same IOs on any other VEAT would be better

i doubt the devs check the EU forums much if at all but if one happens to see this please do something for the banes and possibly fortunatas, the defender version of Will domi would be nice (i had to get that in there :P)

well, i was pretty dissapointed by that power, radius is small, damage is meh, the only gem is its animation and even then not everyone will like it

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One of the best things about the bane is that you can respec into a crab!

Haha, only joking. Well, sort of. Is this a balance that SoA have to be balanced by, the ability to respec between 2 different ATs?

Also, looking at the other numbers for this Bane vs Night Widow comparison, Night Widows have the better ST attack for stealth strike. Plus, the Widow animations are generally quicker.

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The thing is NW use more end and have larger recharge times then banes on the attacks so it kinda evens them selfs out
also, i have a bane on test at lv 36 and a NW on live at 28 and from a personal preference i enjoyed the bane far more, i got the same feeling of SMASH that i get eith brutes .

the problem with the NW for me was even with one recharge in every attack and mental training my attack chain was very slow and everyone noes lethal is resisted more often then smashing and it showed as i was leveling.

And to those who say "i'm not trying banes till they get buffed/someone makes an ultimate build all i can say is try it out first and come to your own conclusions

if you hate/have no interest in farming u might as well hit backspace now.

given the recent Nerf to family mobs, the family/nem TV farm mish seems to be useless now. i would love for someone to say "no, its still worth farming" but i doubt thats true.

So, i ask all farmers with knowledge, is there an alternative farming mission villain side? i alrdy have the tarvis bell demon map but tbh i hate that map

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Is there a decent planner out for these yet?

Deffo want to do Crab Spider...

When I get to 24 (do I get a freespec?) I can select their powers from level 1? So I can forget all about the blumming crappy Arcanos rifle?

YEY!

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yup u can ditch the rifle and get crab powers from lvl 1 when you respec at 24

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At present I'm looking at rolling a Crab Spider. Fortunas and Widows don't interest me much; although that's probably more to do with me already having a Spines/DA, a "Sapper", and a Stalker.

I'd had my eye on Banes since hearing about the VEATs, but in my opinion they're simply too squishy now ever since their Placate's recharge time was tripled . They are mostly single-target melee damage, but they now lack the mitigation necessary to go toe-to-toe with (or in many cases even kite) Bosses or EBs.

At the moment an EM/Regen /WP or /Ninjitsu Stalker with the Mace patron is better in virtually every respect than a Bane Spider: far higher ST damage, more survivable, and just as much mob "lockdown". The only real thing they have going for them is the allied buffs, which Crabs can do just as well if not better (better because Crabs can stay in one spot near their teammates whilst fighting whereas Banes need to be more mobile to rehide and inflict their melee damage).

Crabs on the other hand I quite like the look of. They are much better suited to AoE damage and Ranged damage than Banes, and with both a Dull Pain clone and a Resistance toggle they're considerably more survivable. They also get access to exactly the same pet "layout" as Masterminds: three -2s (Spiderlings), 2 -1s (Disruptors) and an even-level (Patron Pet), and their Leadership powers will boost the pets' survivability as well as that of their teammates. The fact that most of their damage is of a fairly unresisted type and they have a regular "Nuke" is a bonus.

Right now I'm planning to roll a Crab Spider specced for AoE damage and Pet control. An AoE attack chain of Aim + Venom Grenade + Elec Fences + Frag Grenade + Ball Lightning inflicts about 585 Damage straight-up and 760 Damage after factoring in the 40% -resistance debuff. Pet damage and ST damage blasts are icing.

Fully IO'ed up with Hasten running (8 Second Downtime) there is around a 20 Second downtime on Patron Pet/Disruptors, 60 second overlap on Spiderlings, 16 second overlap on Serum. "Blastermind"...







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hearing this banes dont seem so awesome anymore, without a quicker placate they have become weak, they already so less damage then a stalker, have little defence (without ANY defence resistance) no heal, the only thing they have going is passive mez protect with a KB hole

i hope they get a buff in another area otherwise its fortunata's and crabs for me when live hits

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Having seen the powers, I'm currently planning on going Bane from 24-35,

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Can you do that i was under the inpresion that once you picked bane or crab there was no switching

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you can switch from banes to crabs and vise versa, i have done it multiple times my self

[/ QUOTE ] My Post is right above yours Cain......and you couldnt remember me......Lord Ebon Spider lol

what I found interesting was that even though Cain hadnt fully gotten the correct powers (his words I havent respecced correctly) and he is able to rip enemies in two with ease, speaks volumes. I cant wait hopefully tonight I will be a bane as im lvl 22 now and the guys n gals of Arachnophobia are helping

big thanks to

Cain someone.... lol
Forsaken Golem
Teste01
Wolf Spider
Operative Swift
and all the rest of you amazing people lol

Regards

Spider

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Its operative Mist not swift

and your right about banes, ive tried crabs and banes at around the same lvl and i enjoyed the banes so much more, the SMASH feeling you get from the banes is really nice, add the damage they do with the cool costume and its all good

my only complaint is the defence, i have thought about an IO build for him and i could probably get him soft caped in ranged defence but im not to sure about melee &amp; AoE

after 35 lvl's of using him, im impressed