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Quote:Trust me. You'll never get the one you want or need until you already own it. Unless you farm for purples, which is different from farming for inf.That would be one of my issues... I know I will want one of those purples or rare drops... so I dont sell em... the reason Im trying to make the infl in the first place is so I can buy some of these drops... so why sell it if I will just want to buy it later? = /
If you want the inf, sell the purples, if you want the purples farm the purples. There's another thread with purple farm info front page in this sub forum. -
So, is Total Focus worth arguing about Pistols? No. I'm going to respec out of TF so I don't have to hear about Pistols. It's too bad because I love Total Focus.
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In all seriousness, if you stick to level 50s, inf comes in waves. I average 10 mil an hour not counting rare drops and purples etc. That's just standard IO recipies and trash plus mob inf.
You don't need a particular build, just a 50 and a couple hours a day.
Example, was just tooling around killing junk and a purple dropped. I checked it, hmmmm. armageddon. 600 mil inf.
Remember, the high prices on the market favor the poor. Why? We don't buy, we sell. When we get a high priced item from a drop, we get more inf that we can reasonably spend unless we're buying really really sought after junk on the market, which we can just get anyways through playing the game.
If you hit a farm for 2 hours a day, for one week, you'll realize that farming inf is silly easy.
Hence my tongue in cheek post. Point character to 50 mobs, kill as fast as you can, rake in the clams. Good weeks, I make a billion. Bad weeks, 200 mil. And that's not even trying... -
If you want a no muss no fuss option, The walls in Cim work. Clean the top, clean the bottom, repeat. Boring as snot, but I average 1 purple a week in my spare time while camping global channels for TFs.
The advanatges are as follows...
1. You don't need a farm build.
2. You never get caught in the middle of a map when a TF call goes out, and if you're joining ITFs, Cim is a no brainer to hang out in.
3. No need to adjust your difficulty setting.
4. Romans are junk and can't hurt anyone.
5. They're always 50+ on the walls.
It's not the most efficient, optimized route, but it's the easiest. -
I farm inf very quickly by killing lots o stuff.
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Quote:Okay. That makes sense. You want the stuff but don't like the content. And there no way to get the stuff without doing the content. Valid point.I think that sums it up nicely for the main opposition.
I think my hang up is that I don't like the incarnate content, but want the incarnate stuff. And again, there is no other way to get the stuff... so yeah, you may have hit it on the head.
For you, I hope they reduce the number of shards to create stuff then. They probably will eventually. Or, stuff will be fore sale on the market eventually. But yeah, that sucks.
But those of us who do like the content are not elitists. I don't think you said that but others have... let's just agree that it's definitely causing a rift, but is not the end of the game by far. -
It's the same. Just got back after a year. Same tone. Generally helpful unless you step into one of the threads covered in land mines. It tends to get this way when a new system is implemented.
I remember the firestore from when AE got introduced.
I remember the firestorm when IOs were introduced.
I don't remember the firestorm when ED was introduced because I was beaten about the head, very badly... and I was just a wee lurker back then. They came for everybody back then. Avatars were stacked up 20 feet high... there was GODDOOM! You think this is bad? This is a hiccup. ED was........ -
This all boils down to:
Before, you could access everything in the game relatively easily, whether solo or in groups. Even Task Force rewards had an alternate path to obtain. In fact, with all the varied currencies introduced over the last 5 years, there are many many ways to obtain everything in the game except...
Incarnate stuff.
It's taken me a while to see what the gripe is over this, but let me see if I get it now.
People who are upset feel that there is no reasoable way to obtain incarnate stuff, which they want, except by doing incarnate stuff. i.e., you can't buy shards with any other game currency.
Also, you can't even play incarnate trials without said incarnate stuff, thereby denying solo players and casual players from seeing the best of the new content.
So the gist is, this incarnate stuff is sort of a seperate game, which is kinda new because even AE stuff gave regular people rewards options.
Is this the issue? -
Quote:I said task forces and missions.A couple of dozen maybe. There are nowhere near a hundred Task/Strike Forces.
Quote:There have been requests for Endgame content, yes. I'm fairly certain that there were no requests for gated endgame content.
Quote:You might want to slot that Alpha before you do the Apex, unless you like fighting +8 mobs set for teams of 8. Some people are funky that way. Not my cup of tea.
Quote:I have been denied invitations to teams because I didn't have "the right power-sets". Of course, I figured that that team leader wasn't someone that I would enjoy being teamed with...after the denial.
Yup. Very true
Quote:Not really. You see, I would like to get a lot of the Incarnate stuff. The Interface slot, Judgement slot, etc. Unfortunately, I'll have to do crap that I don't really enjoy doing to get it.
Quote:I don't mind endgame content. I just don't really care for gated endgame content. I also don't care for absurd secondary paths for content acquisition.
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Quote:One step further...Something occurred to me that amused me greatly.
Remember not so long ago when every so often someone who prefers to focus on a few select characters would post bemoaning the fact that there was nothing further for them to do once they hit level 50?
I do.
I also remember that, invariably, a number of people would post in their thread essentially telling them to stop complaining and make more characters like everyone else.
The funny part? A lot of the people that were telling them to stop complaining are now the ones complaining that Incarnate content is too time consuming to run all their dozens of characters through.
Basically what happened is the people who were telling the people who wanted end game to suck it up and roll more alts have found that suddenly there is something in the game that doesn't cater to their preferred playstyle. In fact, it caters more to the people who like to play a few characters instead of dozens.
So, to the people this concerns:
For 6 1/2 years now, the game catered to YOUR preferred playstyle, and you got to tell people to stop complaining. The game was providing what you wanted and all was good.
Now, the game is catering to someone ELSE'S playstyle, and you're being told in turn to stop complaining because the game is just now providing what THEY'VE wanted for 6 1/2 years.
How's it feel?
A number of you are finally getting a taste of what you've been dishing out to others for the entire life of the game.
Isn't karma fun?
There IS nothing to complain about because they still CAN play the game exactly as they did before. NOTHING CHANGED except we finally got some endgame content.
Remember when Mission Architect was 'killing the game I love'???
Flavor of the month rant about nothing. I still get groups for all sorts of content and I'm a dummy. It ain't hard. -
Quote:To be honest, there were about 4 red side specific no Incarnate stuff I saw go by, not counting villain tips, but I don't remember the names because.... um... I am... uh, not so clued into red side *shame*.I don't mean this as a criticism, as you're free to play what you please, but note that almost all the activities you mentiond are hero-specific, and the ITF is quite high-level.
The reason I mention this is because I've been running low-level villains and low-level praetorians almost exclusively... Pretty much since I19.5 came out, and whenever I see a call for a non-WTF activity, it's always either out of level range by about 20 levels, or otherwise on the other side of the faction divide.
Come to think of it, it's been literal years since I've run a Virgil Duray SF, and I don't think I've EVER run the one with the sky raiders or the one from that guy in Sharkhead that I don't even remember his name.
I did run a silver mantiss last night tho! Progress is progress. -
Pinnacle is the server where the supers hide their derrainged cousins. We are the place minds go to melt. Always room for one more. never goes red during peak hours. Plush carpet, nifty sued jackets and couches, lord the couches.
Pinnacle: You don't have to be drunk to play, but man gog beedle fum da HUH??? Saw thru my stealth... grumble. -
Quote:Well, not by knee-breaking goons, no; but in a way we are.
Next time someone starts an Apex TF, why don't you try to get a character with an empty Alpha slot on the team?
This is a mechanical, enforced version of the stratification that concerns me. Emboldened by what could be perceived as a dev nod to elitism, how many players will try to set up a caste system in other content?
I play at odd times, and very often there's only one of [something interesting] starting, if that. Thus far, I do what I must to make my characters absolutely desirable on a team, but as the requirements become more onerous, I definitely will reconsider whether the game is worth that much trouble.
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Apex is one of two incarnate task forces. Out of how many other Task Forces and missions? Hundreds? In i20 they are releasing new, non incarnate Strike Forces. They are creating some gated endgame content, yes. Many many of us have been asking this for years.
But they will still create new non-incarnate stuff.
Let us endgame people have our bone. If anything, endgame has been neglected for 6 years. High level does not imply elitist. I play my 'broken' 50s and get by just fine and no one seems to complain. I get teams. If I want Apex, I go get the Alpha and then I can run Apex. It takes, what, an HOUR to get your Apex slotted?
If anything, it's elitist to blame those of us who like the incarnate system and the Developers who created it, for you not getting on teams.
I've been around a while and have NEVER been turned down for a team, booted off of a team or gignored for having gimped builds, SO only characters, hell even my ManToons get on team regularly. Maybe your server is filled with bullies and elitists, but mine seems to be the opposite to a fault. We'll throw out any old team.
Two Task Forces require incarnate slots. New Incarnate Trials will do the same. It ain't going to rock anyone's boat. People played the same elitist card when Purple IO sets came out. Now? Is anyone chasing the Purple Rainbow? Is anyone 'requring' 'purped out' toons?
With all there is to see and do and the vast number of people with differing playstyles... you will be able to play the way you want.
Here's an idea... why don't you guys who think the incarnate stuff is going to stratify the game get together on a server, start a supergroup, recruit like minded people, ignore the incarnate stuff if you want to and make it a fun place for you? -
I'm not on union. I'm on The Stepchild aka Pinnacle. I have seen, advertised in global channels over the past 3 days:
- Positron 1 and 2.
- Lady Grey
- A Manticore
- A Citadel
- Hero and Villain Tips
- A Hami Raid
- Five Flavors of ITF
- Various AV help calls.
Now, I am not saying that this applies to you, but I have seen on these same global channels people complaining that they can't get a decent team because everyone is running WSF and Incarnate content. So, there's a blind spot in a few mirrors.
If you really want a decent team, make one. People will join. Yeah, you have to ask and sometimes even PM people you don't know all that well, and yeah it's a hassle, and yeah if you were to advertise WSF, you'd fill in 2 minutes, BUT... you can still get a team.
Most of the WSF (except Tin Mage and Apex) you can join with a low level toon and get BEAUCOUP experience. Then, right after it ends, ask people to stick around and do... x.
Lack of teaming starts with lack of willing team leaders, not with content. -
Hasn't happened to me yet. Always something to work on. I switch it up nightly to keep them all about even.
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Quote:And you don't magically become more right by being rude.Sorry but the TF's don't become magically harder just because they are this weeks strike target.
That being said, I'm talking about the New Trials and Task Forces.
The WSF, the rewards are only marginally better and those rewards are only necessary to do the New Endgame Content. -
If you are the one running it.
1. Know the zone order.
2. Know the mob locations in those zones.
3. After CoT ambush, send people immediately to zones, 1 per zone until you hit FF.
4. Send idle people to FF until you have 4 there.
5. Send the rest to Eden.
6. FF is done, everyone to Eden.
7. Team releport to last mission door (HOT DOOR).
Small things here and there...
Base teleports for the trial zones. Trains go everywhere now, so Oro to Talos is super easy. Most of the missions can be stealthed.
All in all, can be done easily in under an hour. -
Quote:I rolled Rad/Rad back when Rad/Rad was good. Like issue 2.I haven't fought those in a long time, so I forgot about them. Most people hate fighting them and avoid them by not doing the mission arcs containing them, or skipping the radio/tip missions with them. There aren't any task forces that force you to fight Nemesis at level 50, so my perspective was on the end-game and Incarnate content so far and coming soon.
From what I remember, those are all small defense buffs. To-hit buffs and everyone else's defense buffs can take care of those.
It would seem you chose /Rad for the theme without considering the secondary effect, which is fine. I wasn't expecting you to reroll. A lot of people create their builds before creating a character.
My original question was how cheap do you want it? What I consider cheap may not be the same as you. Also, you may not be aware of or taking advantage of the easiest ways to make large amounts of influence, and you may be able to afford a better build without knowing it. If you have a character who can solo tip missions fairly quickly, you can make easy influence by selling LOTGs or other IOs.
By cheap I mean quick. I don't want to waste too much time slotting. I want IO set, not SOs or generics, but I don't want to invest too much time raking in the dough even with my other 50s to twink.
This character is one of those hit 50, get alpha, slot sets and pull out when people need a debuffer. -
You can email stuff to yourself by using the @ and your global name. I had been away for a year. Didn't even think to check. Wowzers.
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...started worrying about Numina and how the hell I'm going to be able to get through that boring, annoying, slow stupid dummy Task Force.
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Quote:Um... because at level 42 I don't feel like rerolling?What do you consider "cheap"? A build with control purples can be a reasonable way to improve recharge. If you don't care about having perma-AM, a bit of defense can help you survive so debuffs stay on the target.
Why Rad secondary? The defense debuffs from your attacks are pointless in most situations. Sonic can make you a better debuffer by lowering resistance more so your target (AV) dies faster.
Seriously, anyone going to give some suggestions?
Anyone got an old build they want to share? -
Download for me is much faster. Game startup is faster.