BunnyAnomaly

This

I'm on the forums frequently but I don't know the ins and outs of every new update coming out.

I like the idea but not the direct implementation of them casting buffs. It'd be nice if they had an aura that either redirected damage to themselves (perhaps not doable) or gave those close-by additional resistance (definitely doable). Then when you are close to the Tank, you are safe

Hit anything with a taunt or debuff/control at the start of a fight that deals no damage and the formula says Threat = 0, because Damage is 0. However this is clearly untrue.

I read later in the thread the inelegant explanation that Taunts "effectively deal 1 damage". I call it inelegant because it doesn't fit the formula which puts the whole thing into jeopardy. What sort of aggro does a debuff generate? Because they certainly do give threat, but the formula doesn't explain it at all.

I'm not saying they should balance the set, but I think suggestions need more than "it gives defence and resistance".

Edit:

Perhaps trying to sell the suggestion is a better way to put it. What does 'toxic armour' do? Why is it unique? Can you name some mechanic that differentiates it? Because if you can't describe any of this, I could open a thesaurus, rattle off 100 names that all sound fantastic but ultimately have no substance. Again, when there's no particulars and you just have your imagination to fill in the rest, everything sounds pretty good!

Sorry I should have said without any help from primary or secondary sets. Most people are going to end up with weave and may end up with manouvers too.

Besides nit picking would you comment on the actual fundamentals of what I said?

I think an issue to consider with resistance vs defence in IO sets is just exactly how much resistance you think they should give. Right now you can soft cap from basically 0 defence with IO sets only.

I wouldn't mind seeing 10-20% resistance being readily obtainable vs a few different types of damage types through sets. I wouldn't like to see 40%+ just being given out freely. This 'small' amount of 10-20% would let tanks like Willpower and Brutes such as Inv hit the cap. Making it mutually exclusive to the defence sets, as a substitute instead of compliment, would go a long way to keeping balance.

I do agree that it is less easily countered, but I am not talking about going from nothing to a cap from IO set bonuses alone. Defence does set this rather extreme precedent that I don't advocate for resistance.

The thing about that is - it needs a lot more details than just RES/DEF/+maxhp, because that is almost exactly what invulnerability gives.

I think any suggestions that come into this thread really need to carefully elaborate what will truly make the set unique. If it sounds mostly like something that's already out there, or that can be accomplished with careful slotting IOs, it probably won't happen.

Your benefit while soloing is that you can't die. What more did you want?

First of all it depends on whether you're prepared to use inspirations or not, and whether you'll be using incarnate abilities. If you want to wait 1:30 -> 2 minutes between each pull you can probably +4/x8 just about anything in the game on just about any set combination because of the judgement slot + barrier giving you enough god mode to soak an alpha and tear a spawn apart. Again, that's if you're prepared to go slowly.

Against malta, you'll want stun protection, endurance protection and high defence if you are melee. But if you are a perma dom, you might just be able to lock them all done without even acquiring aggro, so... it's really hard to say what the 'survival metrics' are.

Which leads to...

Which is going to be a list of just about every useful power in the game, because they all serve a purpose (I suppose defining them as useful to begin with makes this a tautology :P ). Mass Hypnosis + permadom is going to make an effortless, if extraordinarily slow, run through. Footstomp is going to provide more mitigation (through knockdown + defeats) than what many people will give it credit for. Even just a list for carnies alone is going to be taking out specific abilities from every single set of every single archetype and defining the strategies useful. Then repeating that for every type of enemy. This thread would be collosal.

Consume gives 2 minutes of endurance protection and can be recharged in 50-60 seconds with respectable +recharge. For all intents and purposes a Fiery Aura brute has the same capped resistance as Electric Armour.

As for Malta a well built melee + good defence is usually enough if played remotely intelligently. AOE soft control through your primary and then crush the one or two little guys that cause issues before they get up, win!

Honestly Carnies and Malta are no hassle at all for my Willpower Tank or Fiery Aura Brute.

*Correction: Consume doesn't cap your protection but it gives very high resistance. Enough that at +4/x8 they weren't an issue.