Too Many Tankers?

I ran into this situation last night for the first time in the few years I have been playing my Tankers.

I got invited to a Apex TF and since there was a Tanker already on the team I was asked to switch. I was told there was no need to have 2 tankers. The rest of the team was a couple scrappers, blaster, corrupter and a Widow. I suppose I could have argued my case that my Tanker has Tier 4 in all incarnate slots, a complete IO build slotted for Max HP and Regen, etc. But did not see it as being worth it.

I should add that I respect the person forming the team and know they had no intentions of offending me or presuming my tanker could not hold his own with the other DPS characters. In the end I just switched to my Ill/Rad controller.

Does any of the other tanker players run into this when they join PuGs for TFs? If so, how do you handle it?

Too many tankers? Was this person high? Shame tanks don't get the respect they used to. I would gladly run with two tanks in an Apex. Well with two tanks anywhere, but Apex ESPECIALLY. I think they just really wanted a support class, but then again, they had a corr.

Generally I take it as a sign that the group is going to likely be bad and it isn't a loss at all for me to do other things.

If they weren't looking for extra support or anything, this person sounds kind of like an idiot. And by kind of...Yeah. Tanks the next best thing you can have to a healer anyways, and you guys had a ton of DPS already with scrappers/blasters/widows. Not sure what your leader wanted.

Another funny anecdote - one time my SS/FA Brute (IOd out to craziness) was rejected because they were looking "for more DPS". It's not worth the time to argue or try to justify a position, just let it go

Back to your point though -

I am a little unsure what you are getting at when you say that there were many good players there and then find yourself unable to play your character that could essentially nearly solo the TF. That sounds like a contradiction to me.

Come to Tanker Tuesdays. All-Tanker teams, and I'm usually the wiseacre suggesting we recruit more Tanks.

Let me get this out of the way before my husband sees the thread....



JOYROCK SMASH!!!!

Course my response is that there's never too many tankers!

While *extra* Tankers don't provide exceptionally more damage as would other melee or blasters nor team multipliers like the more squishies, denying a extra Tanker a slot is just stupidity, especially at level 50 when Incarnate Powers make up for those multipliers that Tankers lack.

When I run my Incarnate TF double header I always say "All ATs" and would never turn away extra Tankers.

That leader was just dumb.

I doubt it's a sign of things to come, more likely it's a sign of inflexible tactics on the part of whoever was leading. I get that it was a Master run, but that's all the more reason to have an extra Tanker (and, moreover, to have the most advanced and powerful character available to a given player).

If they'd wanted a specific alt they knew you had to fill a specific role that would have been one thing, but in this case... they were just wrong.

Two tankers can be great and then again two can stink. I prefer to know the other tanker. I always, like to be the only Tank, then I got some control but there are people I wouldn't mind tanking with. Just not normally randoms in a PuG.

If its a Master run then playing with the one Tank you know ya can trust is playing it safe as the leader might of done, rather than have that extra who could cause problems. There is no offense to be had, it's a case of not knowing the second tank. If all tanks knew how to tank then there wouldn't be an issue.

I myself opt to get another toon rather than be that second tank, whatever tank is in team first can stay as tank for all I care. If its me in team first and another tanker is got then I think time to get an alt, sometimes I stay, certainly on an Itrial as more than one helps, but usually in staying I end up doing the tanking as there is no bunny hopping, team splitting and if I think "member 7 needs saving, ah the other tank is right near them, he'll save them" as eggs is eggs he'll taunt whats already in his aura and not notice, so other tanks are often (not all) just excess weight in place of a really good scrapper.

A friend of mine got turned away from a team on his Fort because "we have too many melee".

Let that sink in a moment.




Some people, are just dumb.

No such thing as to many tankers. I actuslly have a tank (one of many) that is built specifically for being a second tank. She still has tough/weave and all her powers slotted,taunt, etc., but she has all the medicine pool as well as ice patch and two holds. This allows me to play the support/control role as well as be a wonderful main//secondary tank. If there is another tank I usually private message them and tell them I will follow them unless they need help deciding where to go. This also helps out a lot whenever ambush arise, which seem to happen more frequently than before. Don't be offended. Some people just want things to run smoothly, or he was just trying to get the master badge on apex and wanted to make sure there was support/debuffs.