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Originally Posted by Mastermiine

Well they used to Give out WS, PB, AS, and AW, back when my bro used to play (i was to young to play then) and when he reached lvl 50 he got all that stuff so I dont see why they cant still give it away?

Originally Posted by Caemgen

I just couldn't see Chuck come back as a series... But I would love a reunion movie five years from now or something.

Originally Posted by Agonus

And yeah, I get that the movie is style over substance, but I do think they went a liiittle overboard with Selene's everfull ammo pistols. So they showed her switching clips what, once? Twice? There was NO room on her outfit to store any clips anyway. On the other hand, I do like how she couldn't beat the the guy from Lost Girl (typecast as a shapeshifter?) head on and had to resort to trickery to beat the superwolf.

Originally Posted by Codewalker

I had to demorecord and edit it, since Group Fly didn't work on her when I tried it. Would have been funny to see the Phalanx all hovering around in their little pow-wow though.

Most flight packs automatically kick in when the user is flying. See also: Goldbrickers / Sky Raiders Halloween costume.

Now, it's possible that she has a special flight power with a unique effect for it, but it's probably just decorative.

Originally Posted by Leo_G

Leave the meta-game number doo-dads to the game and the conceptual imagery to the player. If I want my Stalker to be able to take hits, get smashed through walls, get stomped by robots but still get out of the ashes and rubble with but a dusty shirt, that should be my decision...just like making a Tanker who catches bullets out of the air rather than letting himself get hit by them is a viable Tanker option.

Originally Posted by SlickRiptide

You know, color scheme aside, I'm curious about what the construction of this uniform says about it.




Why, for instance, is it two pieces connected by belts, semi-permanently? In the back, the straps are sewn onto each belt and reinforced. In the front,they're riveted below and laced through some kind of buckle on top. The front straps can be adjusted or disconnected entirely if desired, but they can't be removed altogether. For some reason, the pants and the jacket are designed to be utilized together despite forces that might theoretically be pulling them apart.

It's a lot of trouble to go through for something that's simply a fashion statement about short jackets.

The various belts and buckles are not purely decorative. While the whalebone under her breasts seems a little gratuitous, the rest of it is all functional, even if the way it follows her body contours is a little unrealistic. (They could be sewn onto the uniform rather than lying loose on it.)

The belts on her arms, shoulders, and chest support that backpack doohickey and the "exhaust pipes" that extend from it. It's a little interesting trying to imagine the joints where those pipes interface to the backpack, given that she needs to be able to move her arms freely and stretch or hunch her back or basically rotate her body beyond a two-dimensional plane. Those pipes must be very flexible for a design like that to have a prayer of working at all, let alone being comfortable enough to wear for an extended period of time.

It's hard to imagine it as a jetpack of the conventional sort, because the presumed heat of the jet would cook her bare backside. I suppose it could be a thrust device of some sort where the thrust is supplied via the "exhaust tubes". She'd have an interesting time controlling it by positioning her arms, and heaven help her if it accidentally ignited...

Well, I suppose we'll find out in due time. Whatever it is, it seems that it's operation would be the most likely explanation for both the long sleeves on the jacket and the requirement that the pants and the jacket be tethered together to avoid their embarrassing separation.

The bare midriff may be more than a fashion statement. It may be that it makes dressing and undressing a lot easier, when you can put on the pants first, with the jacket lying on the floor or a chair, and then don the jacket and strap in, so to speak with the front straps.

The facial junk would even make some sense if it was a flight device and those weird facial attachments turned out to be some kind of retractable flight goggles.

An interesting note - the HUD combat aura would fit perfectly into the space inside of her "mask".

Originally Posted by Angelxman81

New Penny costume is a right step for what we need for new tights.
Keep in mind that tights means also skin tights, not only full body tights and patterns.
Add new plus versions (more basic, just a border seem and detailed cleavage like Witch top) of the more basic tights with skins.

Also I would love to see this or something similar:


Looks very superhero to me.
Nice belt,necklace, boots, top with skin also skirt.
Can we get that?

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

That also brings up a weird thing with the levelling up = time progrressing stuff - this leaked arc caps at 40, so it'll probably be 30-40, which means that Penny ages several years in the 5 levels between the end of Fautline and this new arc

Unless they're planning to rewrite/rebuild Faultline.

Originally Posted by Lazarillo

Penny's personal style is "the sewing machine jammed when I was still only half done with my shirt"?

Personally, I just find it a really...weird fashion statement. It's one thing to go for a "sexy" costume. I make fun of Desdemona because she doesn't wear pants, but at least that's, y'know, a distinct style. She's supposed to look all sexed up. In actual comics, you have gals like Psylocke, striding into combat with her ninja-thong. Fair enough. I find it more comical than sexy most of the time, but at least y'know, it's a package deal.

Penny's outfit looks far more practical here, but just sort of randomly doesn't cover her belly button. Why? Because Noble Savage has a skin quota to meet in his assignments, or something? It's just kind of...there. Not to mention those straps look awfully chafey against bare skin. The posted-and-reposted picture that extends the red part of her shirt to her waist, I think, just looks more natural.

You mentioned characters like Jean Grey or Spider-man, who don't expect their costumes to protect them, and it's true. I'm not expecting heroes to go dancing out in full body armor. However, last I recall, both those examples still covered the full body, more or less. We don't have Spectacular Spider-abs beefcake, nor does Jean share Psylocke's aforementioned penchant for wedgies.

Originally Posted by SlickRiptide

Firstly, let's dispense with "underwear on the outside" when talking about Superman-style of uniforms. That's a modern-day schtick. His uniform was created in the 1930's when nobody at all would have thought of it was "underwear on the outside" and any WOMAN wearing something that looked like underwear would have been viewed as a vixen, at best.

Superman and the heroes who copied him are based on a circus strongman's outfit. The shorts (not underwear) are a caricature of the clothes worn by body-builders even today and the tights was just an excuse to make him look muscular while still having him be less-than-naked.

A golden-age heroine's costume would never look like "underwear on the outside". It would have been inspired by a one-piece swimsuit or an evening gown and more likely to have a skirt than to have any piece that was obviously meant to look like panties.

Penny's outfit looks just fine when drawn that way, as some of the photoshopped examples in this thread show.

Is she risque? No, not really. Is she gratuitous? Yes, most definitely. The question is, "Why?". What's the point of drawing that attention, to the point that they even paint her panties on her trousers?

I say "they" because Penny is a fictional character and ultimately some designer at Paragon Studios is the one who made this decision.

She wears a uniform made of some shiny, apparently rubber-like material that one assumes is intended to be protection of some sort. Why then have an exposed, unprotected midriff? That seems downright silly. I assume the weird belt holds up her pants in much the way a garter belt holds up stockings. Seems like a clumsy arrangement,really.

However, teen Penny also wears a short jacket. Maybe she just likes the feel of air on her belly. *shrug*

"Underwear on the outside" serves a purpose, however antiquated, on the Superman-inspired styles and it was never intended sexually, nor would it have been perceived that way by the people who were initially exposed to it. The circus strong man style would have been well-known and recognized for what it was.

I don't think you can find any examples of a woman wearing a lingerie-style of clothing that doesn't involve at least a deliberate display of her assets, when it doesn't involve outright intent to pander to male sexual desire. If you can name any, I'll be interested to hear of them.

A character like Swan has her place in the pantheon. She's a Victoria's Secret hero. That's fine and dandy because she doesn't make any bones about it. In fact, there's a certain intimidation factor from dressing like that - a criminal who is accosted by a hero in nothing but lingerie has to ask himself what defenses this hero has that he's not seeing.

Penny's outfit is basically pandering. She's wearing a protective uniform that covers her up and that could have had thousands of different patterns imposed onto it that would have been cool and unique. Instead, the pattern that was chosen was to literally paint her underwear onto her uniform since we couldn't see it under the uniform.

If anything, the one thing that actually offends me about the design is not the sexuality of it. It's the idea in some graphic designer's head that the only way that I, the player, can recognize this character as female and appreciate her as female is to spell it out and clobber me over the head with it, as if I'm too stupid or loutish to appreciate anything other than lingerie on a woman.

Originally Posted by Shadowblaze

I always hear about people wanting FX-based powersets that are showing their age redone, like Ice Armor, fire based sets, old dark effects to match the new ones, etc. I'm just curious if there is anyone else that thinks some animation centric sets (probably mostly melee, honestly) could use some fresh new alternate animations.

For me, I really think Claws looks terrible. I keep wanting to make a Claws character, but the animations just really turn me away from the set. Does anyone else think they look...I dunno, halfhearted and lazy? Like the character really isn't putting too much effort into their swipes. I always thought a set like Claws would be great for a 'berserker' type concept, someone who just goes into a fury and is spinning and swiping at anything that moves. But what we have now, it feels more like "OK, stay still, going to give you a light scratch in a few seconds here." There's no OOMPH in any of the attacks. I would love some different animations for this set.

Anyways, any other sets you think could benefit from alternate animations?

Originally Posted by Arcticwidow

These are some interesting numbers. Is there a way to factor in enemy resistances? Most enemies are resistant to smashing/lethal, no? So wouldn't that mean that sets with dual damage types like EM, DM, ELM, and Spines (toxic) would be slightly higher in all actuality?

Originally Posted by Jibikao

Did you level a lowbie Staff Stalker?

The attack chain of 3s, 6s and 8s CONE attack is very nice and then you throw in Assassin Strike when 3 stacks is on.

With 9' reach, Guarded's cone attack can easily hit 2 targets. It is a really nice attack at lvl 4. Its base damage is like a real 8s attack which is higher than 2nd tier attack Piercing. The great thing about Guarded is that it's a good cone attack with only 8s recharge. I use it all the time when its on. I don't feel like I am wasting my dps by using Parry. The bonus +defense really feels like a bonus rather than something that I need to sacrifice for to get. I get that feeling when I use Parry because its base damage is low and activation time is kinda slow too. Guarded even without any +defense slotting is a decent attack.

I really don't know how well an attack chain of 3s, 6s and 17s eye of storm. That is strangely long wait before Single Origins, don't you think?

Originally Posted by Kioshi

Well there's absolutely no reason to put a stealth proc in a Stalker, Hide takes care of everything. Unless you PvP but then you'd have to pick the Stealth pool power too, besides usually SS, SJ, tons of KB protecton in the case of Nin, etc.