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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha

Everyone seems to be handily forgetting the parts where;

1) Marcus doesn't want to give up.
2) He does NOT get a lot of choice. You know, that powerful, Incarnate killing Ritual that Wade spent all this time setting up, one that was designed specifically to kill an Incarnate exactly like him?
3) Not everyone has the power to bring someone straight back from the dead. And if people are saying their characters can? Well...I'd say canon disagrees, but I would need to get some reasonable citation.

I really think this has gotten a little past honest story discussion, myself.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

You always need to account for whether players would actually WANT to do this particular kind of evil deed. Remember - City of Villains is a game for the masses, meaning you have to develop villainous content for people who are not inherently evil, malicious or violent will still enjoy.

I'm not saying villains should be less evil. What I AM saying is that villains should concentrate more on the glamour and high life of being evil and the rewards it brings, as opposed to the dirt and grime and the disgusting side of what it means to be one.

Really, I'm getting a little sick - literally sick - of villain story arcs that "reward" me with an act of depravity. I didn't become a villain for the killing and the torture and sliminess. I became one for the money, the fame and the girls, damn it!

Originally Posted by sypher_vendetta

i quite like the idea of certain ATs having exclusive sets, its what makes the AT unique, if all ATs had the same sets, there really wouldnt be any need for any of the ATs and instead if that happens why not create a singular aspect of character creation like the other mmo.

not all sets should get ported, but would be interesting to see how they faired compared to other ATs.

Originally Posted by Jibikao

Ever since Scrapper gets /shield and titan weapon, they are not an "assassin" in my book because the dev already defined what an "assassin" should be like. I don't agree with it but they obviously don't think Scrapper is an assassin, like Stalker. A REAL Assassin in their definition does not get shield and titan weapon.

Scrapper is just the base-line performance for all four melee ATs.


And stop fantasizing that Stalker will get Titan Weapon. I know they said they'll look into it in the future but how far in the future? I don't think it'll come any time soon and if it's not any time soon, then it's not coming. If they want to "break" theme and give Stalker Titan Weapon, I rather have Shield. Shield has good team defense buff and an excellent aoe attack that doesn't break hide. If the dev finally decides to let us choose themes, then I want Shield way more than TW.

Originally Posted by ebon3

Agreed, big mistaking taking Power Girl's bewb port away!

Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim

I usually do the 'word of mouth' approach. "Man, you hear about Hero One? Yeah? Sad stuff. If I'd known he'd been with the Rikti all these years..."

I don't make my characters directly involved in canon story. I let the canon shape my experiences, since I have absolutely no control over the game's lore. The only times I don't conform to canon are during... most of the old villain arcs, since all the villain contacts treat you like dirt and behave like they're made of solid gold.

The newer storylines (RWZ and newer) I just roll with the tide.

Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha

This, pretty much. Some people expect RP to conform nicely to their personal happy ideals. Which, really, isn't going to happen. Not all the time. Which is, really, the way it kinda should be. *shrug*

Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim

So wait... isn't T'keron Valmaz YOUR character? YOUR character is the only one everyone can turn to?

Holy freaking god, dude. I don't care if this is an RP event on Virtue, if you present the server with "MY character killed Statesman, and MY character knew this would happen since thousands of years ago, and MY character is the only person who can help you all", I can't tell you how many people will laugh in your face.

We all got the opportunity to watch Statesman die, dude. But guess what? Wade was the one who took Statesman's life. Not you. Not me. Not the players. And the ONLY person who knew all this would come to pass was Wade, or whomever is giving Wade his plan.

Originally Posted by Moly

See when I look at them I see sort a wide-bottom with no Z-axis at all. That booty don't pop like it should.

Originally Posted by Jibikao

This is because those sets were ported to Stalker with POOR balance. The only thing they did is to take out the useful pbaoe (Dragon Tail, Whirling Wind, Spin, Lotus) and insert Assassin Strike and call it a day. And now they are married to this "Cottage rule" and won't insert pbaoe back in.

Any dev that paid attention to the set would say "mmmm, I wonder if a melee set needs 7 freaking ST attacks?" I am not an expert but even I'll think that's too overlapping.

I've said many times that Stalker's core problem has a lot to do with sets. It has more to do with the sets than how Stalker's critical/HP Cap work. You can have the best Damage Scale in the game but if your only pbaoe is taken out, good luck.

The newer sets are better but still inferior (minus Kinetic).

Originally Posted by Kurrent

It would have made much more sense and been more fitting if States had died as part of a heroic sacrifice. Such as...

<cue Statesman stepping onto the triggger of the ritual>

Darrin Wade: "Do you have any last words before you die?"

Statesman, in obvious agony, struggles to his feet despite the pain coursing through his body as his powers are stripped away. "Yes... Wade..." he managed to force out through clenched teeth. "You're not... the only one... who can use ritual magic."

<Camera pulls back to reveal the ghostly figures of Numina, Kelly Nemmers, War Witch and Archmage Tarixus, all hovering at equidistant points of a circle surrounding the entire mountain top. As Wade looks at each of them in turn, some of the rock slides off of the side of the mountain top, revealing glowing runes.>

Numina: "You have shown us that you are indeed a much greater threat than we had credited you, Darrin Wade. But your glee will be fleeting."

Tarixus: "Very, very fleeting." (with appropriate cackle)

Kelly Nemmers: "The power of Statesman has been a force for good and justice for nearly a century, Wade. But all of us--and even Marcus himself--would rather it disappear from the world forever than fall into the hands of one as wicked and depraved as yourself."

War Witch: "Which is why we came up with this particular ritual. We had a very good idea of your plans, and this was our final failsafe we had prepared with Statesman's help over the last week: a magical working that would only be triggered by Zeus's power being ripped out of Marcus Cole's body. A working that would use such an event to destroy not only the subject, as you had planned, but the caster as well."

Tarixus: "You see, boy, no one wants you to have the power of Zeus. Your predilection with the Shadowgod already made you dangerous, but letting you have the power to breach the dimensions and bring the Beast here is unacceptable."

Numina: (to War Witch) "Marcus can't hold out much longer. I can feel the Incarnate energy gradually wrest itself free due to Wade's magic."

War Witch: "Then it is time."

Statesman, slowly walking toward Wade, gold and crimson energy splashing around him (voice subdued but firm): "I would sacrifice my life to save my daughter, or to bring her back. Just like I would sacrifice it to end your menace once and for all." As he finishes, Statesman grabs Wade's shirt.

Darrin Wade: "You fools! This masochistic exercise will destroy all of you, too!"

Kelly Nemmers (with a spectral smile): "Hadn't you noticed, Darrin? We're already dead."

<Cue the entire mountain exploding, followed by Statesman's cinematic reunion with his wife and daughter.>


Now THAT would have been a good, heroic, climactic ending. You like that one, Oz?


K

Originally Posted by Golden Girl

Ouroboros means that we should be able to go back in time and talk the Praetorian Hamidon Pasalima out of a career in science.
Or stop Stefan Richter ever reaching the Well of the Furies.
Or warn the world in advance about the first Rikti invasion.

Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow

Why does City of Heroes have to be such a hard game to love? Here' what I mean:

For a while now, I've badmouthed the metallic tank top and dress options for females from the Pocket D pack, but then I told myself... You know, self. Maybe you're being unfair. Who knows, maybe the metallic top will go pretty well with this biker jacket. I might look weird and wonderful. So me myself and I went looking for the metallic top to go with my Biker jacket, only to discover that... It can't be used with a biker jacket.

Even when I try to be lenient and actually do my best to use pieces I don't instantly like and maybe grow fond of them, I still can't ******* use them because they don't show up for half the categories they could go it! And there's no chance in hell I could have caught this in testing because I wouldn't have had any reason to think of to try it.

And that, by the way, is AFTER I tried to make a "lady gunsliger" by combining the trenchcoat with "saloon girl" outfits, only to realise the "big butt" belt from the Steampunk pack can't be used with trenchcoats.

I wish you could see me shaking my head on the other side of your screen.

Originally Posted by _Ail_

Just get the warburg phase shift. It's like 3 minutes work tops.

Originally Posted by GuyPerfect

3) It doesn't clip. Seriously, this is like the only female hairstyle that has practically no clipping considerations. Glasses and goggles don't clip. The tiaras don't clip. The face details don't clip. It was clear that the design was made in such a way so as to be fitting with as many costume varieties as possible, and for that I'm gonna call it worthy of having a price tag.

Originally Posted by Jibikao

Hopefully they keep Ninjitsu a Stalker-only set because Stalker doesn't get sets that don't "match" their theme. Scrapper, Brute and Tanker are not "assassins". Quite frankly, I don't really give a s@#$ about theme but if they insist on Stalker not getting Shield and Titan Weapon, then the reverse must be true as well. Other ATs shouldn't get Ninjitsu.


I don't think Ninjitsu is bad. I just think Ice Armor is a lot better.