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Quote:But they serve chicken too.Originally Posted by Energizing_Ion
I don't like seafood...this game has gone to the Europeans....or....something...
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I think they should of used the voice of Robocop for this thing!
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I don't know much about Flashpoint. I went into the comic store, bought some comics, and decided against any of the flashpoint titles, as I thought..."Why bother? They're relaunching everything."
So correct me if I'm wrong, but from a lore standpoint, isn't the new DCU because Flash had to put it back together the best he could...and thusly from a lore standpoint, Starfire is this way, because that's how he see's Starfire? -
Quote:I'll have to disagree here.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Yes, but in the past Tanks and Defenders Inherents were 'balanced' around 'People should be doing things in teams'.
Now that the Devs have finally and thankfully abandoned that, Defenders and Tankers got their solo-friendly changes.
So, Kheldian's are left out. They are still stuck with an Inherent that does NOTHING outside of teams. They are the only AT that suffers from this. Ergo, it needs fixing.
Just because every OTHER AT has a solo friendly Inherent, doesn't mean all ATs should have it. There is such a thing as being unique.
That said, I never thought of the Kheldians Inherent as their biggest problem.
However, I do like the idea of Favored Form.
My thoughts:
Human: Mag 6 Protection to Sleep, Hold, Disorient. They are less likely to have their shields detoggled.
Nova: +Resists. They're more durable in the squishiest of forms.
Drawf: +SPD/+RCH. They're so used to their hulking form they've overcome some of it's drawbacks. -
Quote:Last I knew it didn't. While it's a cast, it's treated as a toggle.Originally Posted by Grae Knight
Rather than starting a new thread, I would like to ask a follow up question for Power Boost/Build-up. If I use PBU before dropping my Force Field Generator from Traps set does the PBU bonus continue for the entire time the FFG is up?
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Quote:They said it would take some work, but with the new game model, maybe it would be worth their time.Originally Posted by Nos482
IIRC they said, that is as likely to happen as Clown Summoning.
Create HellFire Whip Melee and put it on the market. -
Havent seen the web episodes...is it based off that Mortal Kombat video with Jerry Ryan with Scorpion looking to be the hero of it?
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I want to see this, that's all I need to know!
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Quote:Sadly, I think the top end ELA user, is better off as a Brute or Tanker, in terms of survivabilty, than use on a Scrapper.Originally Posted by Microcosm
At the high end electric should also be considered. Softcap it to s/l and you get defense to the vast majority of attacks on top of its solid resistance (also able to cap all but psi with t9), protection from all sorts of annoying things like slow and edrain, heal+regen, no psi hole, and very powerful active mitigation with powersink (if modified properly).
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Quote:Wierd, I can swear another poster said TC's -Regen did stack (didn't think so, but I could swear the poster was Arcanaville, so I just figured I was wrong).Originally Posted by StrykerX
I made a Time/Fire Defender and I was wondering whether you can stack Time Crawl's -recharge to really neuter an annoying boss or such, so I crafted a Power Analyzer to see what stacked and what didn't on it. From what I saw, nothing about Time Crawl stacks if you apply it twice to the same target... not the recharge debuff, not rhe -regen, not even the movement slow. Is this true or am I misreading things?
And is that true of slows in general? (I rarely play sets with powerful slows so I've never really paid attention.) -
Time's Crawl: 2-3 slots of ACC and ENDRED. It recharges fast enough on it's own, and faster once you have some +RCH set bonuses and/or Chrono Shift and/or Hasten.
Time's Juncture: 2 slots of Enzyme Hami Origin Enhancements, untill then, 2 ENDRED enhancements.
If you take Temporal Selection: RCH/END IO.
There's some slot saving help for you
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Having played Sonic/ Defender and /Sonic Corruptor, I never thought I needed to see "Great buffs" from the teammates
As a player, my only problem with Sonic, has been it's debuff needing a team member. :/ If it wasn't for that one power, I'd likely love the set.
As for when I'm on a melee, love having them on the team. More resists? YES PLEASE!
I'm still sad that I don't see more Thermal's out there. -
Quote:If they copied the Ice Armor effect of CoH's first competitor...I'd love Ice ArmorOriginally Posted by Rebel_Scum
Yeah, the only revamp ice armor needs is a graphical one.
Actually I lov Hibernate's animation, but the Ice Armor toggles...yeah...suckie :/ -
[QUOTE=Eva Destruction;3912228]They would, since we can't make a butt to match.
The arms are still too puny though. No matter how much of a muscular texture you put on them, they still can't be anything more than "wiry." While this would be better than what we have now, it's much prefer the ability to thicken them up a bit....or in the case of male avatars, thin them out.
It entirely depends on the context. Are you talking about a walking blow-up doll, or are you talking about a person who also happens to be sexually appealing? In other words, are you saying "she's competent and smart and sexy" or are you just saying "she's got a great body?" In certain contexts the second is acceptable. But we are playing a teen-rated game and most of those contexts have no place here. We are here to punch bad guys or good guys in the face. If we want to look good while doing it, great, but the primary concern here should still be the face-punching.
That is my objection to Sister Psyche's portrayal, especially as it contrasts with BAB on the tutorial splash page and pretty much everyone else on the SSA splash page. If I'm a civilian having my purse stolen, I wouldn't expect her to save me. I wouldn't expect her to do much of anything teen-rated. BAB can save me, she can go stand over there and look pretty. That is objectification, and no, it is never a good thing.
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Context for TEEN Rating? Teen Rating is all about graphic details.
Why they can have avatars running around with almost nothing on, because as long as certain parts of the body aren't shown, it's able to be rated as TEEN.
In fact, the only they you can't get away with in a TEEN rating is excessive swearing.
Mention of sex, raep, murder, incest, racism, just about anything, can fit into the TEEN rating, if you avoid actual detailed accounts of all of it.
They can easily have said Tyrant and Dominatrix are in a relationship/dating with each other, kept it a TEEN rating, as long as we didn't get an erotic novel about it.
Lots of killing? Well then, don't show blood!
What? You think movies got more violent? Watch an old John Wayne movie. Lots of deaths! It just wasn't graphic. The bad guys (and good guys) were shot and fell over, versus today's "Oh look! We see his spleen and brain matter all over the pavement!"
As for Sister Psyche's portrayal on the splash page...she's looking on in horror as meteors strike down on galaxy City destroying everything. The "Oooh my gawd..." look. While Babs is showing the after effect look of it all of "Gonna kick these Shivan #&%#!"
Maybe the problem is less of how Sister Psyche is drawn, and more of a problem with people thinking a hero can't have an "Oh no!" look or perhaps the artist couldn't draw an "Oh no!" look, or perhaps other things went through people's minds because they see sexy Sister Psyche in a pose with her mouth open!
Obviously I seem to be in the minority, but when I first say the splash page, I didn't think any sexual about it, and though that was her in a stunned look as meteors are falling around GC. -
Quote:That's not Cyclops and Jean Grey.Originally Posted by Nyx
Another from the Swim Suit edition! When Jeans not a threat to the planet, she ummm...Well...Im not sure what Cyclops is reading to her, but at least hes there, and woudn't you boys love to get a copy of that book! I mean, it has her in a full....well...
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/20...rzerox21xx.jpg
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Quote:Didn't they comment on that with National Lampoon's Loaded Weapon?Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex
I'm also not sure if Mel Gibson in the 1980s was so much an actor as a he was a stunt backside.
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Quote:Of course, I know plenty of guys who are more along the lines "What?! I'm viewed as a piece of meat?!" *HIGH FIVE*Originally Posted by SilverAgeFan
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guessing that you don't really think much about men sexually. Or have ever worked in a job where are required to think about men in this way. Because that comment lacks a lot of insight regarding how the male form and gender (two different things--body vs. social role) are viewed sexually.
Not sure how to help you sort out "What women want." Maybe get a gay friend and indulge in an hour or two of girl talk about what they like in a guy? Nothing dirty, just an insightful abs vs. eyes sort of conversation. Or work as a photo editor in the fashion industry? Anyways, trust me, men are sexualized quite a bit. Not as much as women still are. But more so now than they were even 15 years ago.
And that catty peer pressure described up-thread that occurs between many women? Can't tell you how clearly some corners of marketing understand that and have been trying to foster that culture amongst any segment of modern male populations. From fragrances to balding treatments to exercise machines to fad diets to garments to music, men are definitely sexualized. Sometimes it is to entice those that are sexually attracted to male bodies. Other times its to spark exploitable insecurities in males themselves. But make no mistake, it does happen in our society at large.
Okay, tangent over. Back to the thread about gender roles within a superhero game.
Of course I know lots of women like that too.
So new question: Is this question only being brought up to show how sensitive people are?
Maybe it's my Southern California raising, and now small town living, but it's been nothing but "Look at how good I look." or "Damn, I want people to think I look good." on both sides of the gender divide. -
Quote:I never said people don't make them.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Honestly, the difference between middle physique and max physique isn't all that telling. Putting them side-by-side with captions makes it obvious, of course, but if I, personally, saw your max physique pic in the game, I wouldn't have called it.
Here's the thing - women get so little travel on most of their sliders (except breasts) that the difference in slider values is only telling from one extreme to the other, and isn't very obvious between degrees closer together. That's why how "big" a female character looks is often much more down to what costume pieces she's using. You'll note that both Brutticus and Xanta have large boots and gloves, large belts and large shoulders, as well as relatively smaller heads. Xanta, especially, really stands out less so due to her stature and more so due to the Medieval shoulders and the Glam hairdo - they're both huge and make her look much bigger.
Considering David shot down both a new model and reweighing the sliders on the old models so hard he left a hole in the sky... Yeah, obviously It won't happen - which is a pity - but there are still ways to work around it. As I've mentioned before, most of a the female model's body is more or less right, especially from the waist down. What women need is more mass in their upper body, and the easiest way to do this seems to give them a new pair of bigger arms via the Rrobotic Arms category. This should be easy to do without the need for new tech and without the need to tweak any existing costume pieces, though it WILL leave the arms separated from chest patterns and textures like short sleeve jackets are. Another possibility is to outright give them a new chest, as well, kind of like the Armoured chest, only bulkier, but this will probably require some work on existing textures and patterns to make sure they stretch right, as well as possibly realigning attached costume pieces like chest pieces and shoulders.
Huge are bad at depicting human people, so I would never argue that they're as common as Male and Female, and I'd even agree that they are more rare. I'm just saying that they're not as non-existent as you say. Keep looking, I'm sure you'll see one before too long. I teamed with one on a Death From Below trial the other day. I just see how rare these are, to think Huge Female would be just as rare (if not more so)....but maybe when I think Huge Female, I imagine something akin to Huge Male and you picture something completely different.
As for your work around, like I said before, I say go for it. More costume options? Sure!
Sadly, I think with your costume suggestions, people may feel limited. May not. guess it depends on how many people make uses of all the costume slots. I know I have hero outfit, then various civvie outfits, and it sounds like some of these costume options would limit some of the civvie outfits.
Not to mention, I personally would love to see some other, I would think much simpler, costume options before all that (like sleek bikini 2, to match with sleek tights). -
Quote:Minimum Physique:Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
That puts your observations of sliders much more in perspective. You're apparently a very poor judge of sliders. Most of those characters have the legs slider either all the way to the right or close to it, many of them have the shoulders and waist slider quite a ways up and nearly all of them have the hips slider either all the way up or all the way down, depending on the position of the other sliders. When your female has a very high level of "muscle" slider, it makes her butt disproportionate, hence why a lower hips slider helps counter-balance that. A high muscle slider also makes the waist out of proportion, which is why a thick waist is also necessary.
Middle Physique:
Max Physique:
Max Everything:
I know what the proportions look like
*Note: For the first image, the model has Minimum Physique, 3/4 of an inch over the minimum Shoulders/Chest, Minimum Waist, and Maximum Hips/Legs. After that I just increased the Physique Slider to the 1/2 way point and then max.
Now all my comments have been on new character models by the way. I have no problem with new skin textures. That totally makes sense to me. That seems worthwhile in making. It's the idea of taking time on whole new avatar models I think would be a waist of time.
Also, I think it's likely to late in the game for them to likely fix the sliders looking better as you move them to the left, and and from comments made, if they did, they'd have to fix every costume pieces to fit them, which would be a complete time sink, that imo would be better spent on new costumes, or even giving some of those gender exclusive items to the other gender models.
I say this as someone who would love a more feminine male avatar, so one of my concepts can be fully realized (I've yet to see a male avatar look like a female, and putting the chest slider all the way to minimum and covering it up with a jacket doesn't work 100%)
So it's not like I don't understand the want for different avatars or changes. But even then, I'm not sure what I want would be popular enough to warrant either
*BTW 30mins in AP, new characters popping in...not a single huge model yet.
To Healix: Now see, I see that avatar and think bodybuilder. Nice job! -
Quote:The fact that I can go out and not see a single Huge Male in a swarm of avatars...or that if I do, it's 1 in a crowd of many?Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I don't like the way you dismiss the whole issue for everybody just because it's not an issue to you based on community observations you have no way to make with nearly the comprehensive certainty that you exhibit. Please stop stating your opinion as universal fact.
That's assuming comic books are nothing bug explosions and flying cars, which even someone as poorly-read on the subject can tell you they're not. Comic books are about fantasy with a lower-case F, but what that fantasy is depends on the person fantasising. Some dream about being ridiculously buff, some dream about being very smart, some dream about having a stable family and some dream about their fat *** and beer gut being the latest fashion statement.
"Fantasy" is not the opposite of reality. It's an exaggeration of it, but it's not an exaggeration in any one single direction.
Firs of all, not all characters have the physical ability to BE in shape. Currently, I'm playing the ghost of a Roman soldier who possessed an empty suit of medieval armour. He is a ghost, he has no body, therefore he cannot be in shape. Before that, I played a woman whose body was almost entirely made up of cybernetic implants. Those aren't design to get into shape, because they simply don't work that way. Before that, I played an alien born on Earth whose physiology was not even remotely human by a long shot, therefore he couldn't get into shape. Once Titanic Weapons arrive to the game, I will be playing an ancient automaton from the beginning of time whose body is made of unknown materials and driven by the power of a star. She cannot get in shape because it takes the heat and pressure inside a star to alter her shape even in the slightest.
You confuse diversity with realism, and in the end do more to promote a very limiting kind of realism to a game that doesn't really need to have it. You speak of getting in shape and weight problems that are more or less specific to the human biology where half the canon characters don't even have that. Numina is dead, Positron didn't have a body for the longest time, Bastion is a robot, as is Luminari, the Clock King is a psychic trash robot, Dr. Vahz is a stitched-together pile of corpses, the Nemesis is an automaton with a human brain (maybe), Nosferatu is some kind of mutated monster and so on.
This isn't about realism, it's about diversity, and if that diversity is inspired by real life, then that's just as legitimate.
That fact, that I've yet to see one single character with all the sliders to max setting.
And in those cases, I have to ask, why isn't just upping the physique slider to max happening?
You talk of diversity, but how often do you see people running around with the physique slider all the way maxed out?
I've never seen it. And that would be something different.
So with all this talk of wanting diversity, and it already being made available to you, why aren't you using these tools to create diversity?
Out of the 6 pics you showed, only one looked like it might have the physique slider moved up a bit, and I really can't tell since it's an altered image. Certainly don't have any of the phsyique sliders moved up more than maaaybe a 1/4 of an inch past minimum, none of them look to be in the middle of the slider and that's a starting point.
You want diversity? Then maybe show off what the character creator can do first, and diversify that way, instead of saying "make this happen so we can have diversity".
Make a max to all sliders female character, and run around playing. Give it this great costume, so others are seeing it and going "Well, if Sam can do that with the character creator, so can I."
And I'll also stick to this being a Superhero MMO, as it was orginally advertised, and untill (if memory serves) last year stated on the web ID tag.
Are there are comic books out there with unfit superheroes...even just plain heroes. I'm sure there are. Couldn't name one that's generally considered popular (cult following doesn't mean popular) to the general public.
As for pictures of those olympic weight lifters...how's their running? I believe I mentioned running everywhere.
And okay, you can have your ghost characters, and robot characters, who don't excersize...and just are. Why haven't you just upped the sliders? Make them look like they have some pounds on them, and should walk with a waddle.
The point still stands...not worth the time (this doesn't mean they won't do it, mind you) of the animators for a bit more diversity in avatars, when people aren't making use of all this diversity that is open to them.
Now if I saw more a divserity in avatars, and saw more and more people using closer to max on all the sliders, I'd amost see it.
As for female tanks...
Fairchild (Gen13) always seemed like a tanker to me.
Rogue (X-Men) seemed like a tanker to me.
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Quote:+RCH = 90secondsOriginally Posted by MrBones
What is the duration of Chrono Shift? Mids says it's 30 seconds.
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Why say she's psychic at all?
The Mental Abilities could just be the Phoenix's song(s) having an effect on people.
Though one could just say that she's psychic, after all your phoenix has taken on a somewhat (at the very least) if not full human form (not many stories have phoenix's being able to do that.
Could be magic, could be natural abilties of the phoenix that aren't known of in legends. -
Hmmm...leveling up a TIME/FIRE now, and have a DP/TIME at 50.
I've seen no problem with casting Farsight when it pops up to keep the defenses going (I also dont have hasten in either build), and really, I find softcapped defenses with Time's Juncture as backup PERFECT!
You know how people say "Defense without DDR is worthless"? Well with -ToHit to stack with high defenses, you don't tend to suffer from defense cascade failure.
At least, I didn't on my DP/TIME running the ITF and staying in melee range of everything with softcapped defenses and TJ running.
Also, Farsight was a awesome when running a LGTF for my DP/TIME.
*hit mutation* *turn into monkey* *O.O OH NOES!* *get piled on by Rikti as the team is speeding through the horseman* *SURVIVE! \o/* That's right, 60 seconds of surviving Rikti beating on the rikti monkied DP/TIME Corr, because they just kept missing
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Quote:Don't know how you got that out of what I posted...but if posting the link makes you feel better go with itOriginally Posted by Smersh
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Quote:the forums do not represent the game at large.Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
I'm not sure what pattern you're seeing in other people's costumes, but after a long time of keeping an eye on the Best Costume Designs thread, I've seen a great breadth and depth of character appearances that really isn't nearly as limited as you appear to suggest. People make all kinds of weird things, from robots to aliens to plant people to living insects and beyond. The game promotes diversity, and diversity is what I, personally, have seen.
Will more esoteric costume creator additions earn the studio loads of new players? Probably not, but at this point I doubt there's anything that will. However, what more esoteric costume creator additions will earn the studio is more new characters per player, and each new character a player likes is one more anchor to keep said player playing THIS game. After all, I play the game without a shadow of regret even without these many pieces I'm asking for. Had I the pieces, however, I would use them to make new characters or upgrade old ones and thus gain new respect for both the game and the studio, and the more I respect the game, the more money I want to pour into it.
At the end of the day, how many new players an addition will bring and how much it will cost aren't issues we have any real outlook over as players, not unless Arcana wants to pitch in on this particular side of the conversation. That's even more true when you consider that over-saturating a particular character theme with too many options tends to start having diminishing returns on player satisfaction. Honestly, if we got another tech texture to add to the dozen tech textures we already have, how many players will that gain us? How much point is there to doing this anyway?
The broader question here isn't player numbers, not in terms of what we can discuss, but rather the merit of creating new themes vs. supplementing old themes. As in all things, the answer is somewhere in-between the extremes, but I can say this with a great degree of certainty - if you give players greater freedom, players WILL exploit it. Maybe not immediately, but they will.
Or else by now, or we'd see a few more suggestions of "Bikini bottom and top in stillettos" you know, of which I've seen in game quite a few times.