AzureSkyCiel

Replace their current ambush dialogue of "Halt, in the name of Longbow" to "STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!"

My own odd proposal for group fly:
-Remove ToHit Debuff

-Slow it down till it's only 30% faster than hover

-Add Defense buff equal to Hover or Combat Jumping

-Five it flight's end drain

-Grant fall damage immunity while for once the flight affect wears off for a period of time equal to however long it would take to fall from the "top" of the Shadow Shard to the "Bottom".

-Be appreciated on teams

I know that if they go through booster packs again, it might be interesting to go over national/continental flavors.

I'm mostly saying this since I would love a Shinsengumi coat or a haori.

I hope no one minds bump to this thread, while Mercs do need some fine tuning, ninjas still cannot be overlooked.

The REAL reason for the "No wings and Trenchcoat/Borelo" thing is because the Developers do not want this to become "City of Deviant Art".

Meh, It hasn't been the same since CuppaJo left Weekend Forum Update.

Basically as it says in the topic.
I know it seems like a silly question, but I don't see anything suggesting such on the Paragon Wiki listing and the closest seems to the the Character artist, but it also seems like making NPC enemies in the game is a mix of jobs from all manner of different departments. I could see it involving the Cheryl Austin (Character Artist), Manticore and Hero 1 to make sure they fit into the story or add their place in the story, BaB and Castle for powers, effects, and animations, and the list could go on.

Again, sorry if this is a dumb question, just curious.

WARNING: LONG POST IS LOOOOOOONG
DISCLAIMER: I am NOT demanding for these changes to be made now, nor even demanding them at all, this is purely a suggestion, and I probably do not even know what I'm talking about, I have made three Ninjas MMs and the highest I got one was 12.

Well, I haven't seen a thread asking for a buff to the ninjas powerset in a while, so that either means that their stats in detailed info make them worse than they sound and people are quite content, or people have simply given up hope.

To review the situation:
Genin have a 5.6% defense to all positional damage types and no typed damage, jounin possess a more formidable 11.2% defense to the positional damages, and the oni sacrifice their defense to the same level as a genin, but also gain 21% resistance to smashing and lethal (why do smashing and lethal HAVE to be the most resisted damages out there?!), and a rather impressive 42% resistance to fire.

To compare, the only other MM pets that make use of defense would be the thugs, the basic punk lacks any defenses or abilities, but come level twelve, the enforcer grants everyone, himself included a +6.8% defense, once you get your second enforcer, you will have a +13.6% defense to all pets, with an upgrade offering a marginal +2.5% tohit buff from each one, and the bruiser joins in things with 21% resistance to smashing and lethal and a small 5.25% resistance to fire, cold, and toxic damage.
All this tends to be further mitigated by the fact that not only do thugs have these eventually gained better defenses, but also possess mostly ranged power sets, many of which allowing for knockback, as well as the bruiser able to keep the front lines busy.

Now there's another MM set that also tends towards melee heavily, and that is Necromancy, it might be a little more fair to compare this with ninjas, both seem melee centered and the third tier pet is control oriented, but the Lich, much moreso, with cone immobilize, a cone terrorize, a single target hold, and a self heal, all with some nasty to-hit debuffs with full upgrades and a 26.14% resistance to cold, neg, and toxic damage. (Though the Oni can still be comparable by virtue of possessing far more powerful attacks) Also, the basic zombie horde possesses a wide array of resistances (26.14%) to smashing, cold, neg, psi, and toxic damage (they're nearly the bane of Arachnos), and the grave knights start with the same number of powers as a jounin, though theirs includes a good ranged attack, and each upgrade brings FIVE new powers to their roster, including multiple repeat powers which allow them to spam hack and slash three times in a row.

Then there's fact that jounin GET A PLACATE, when the MM's pets are supposed to be watching your rear, they placate a foe and give it a good chance of realizing you are the better target, and there's the issue how genin get no model chance with the first upgrade since the removal of their archery abilities, which makes me very sad since that's one of the things I look forward to each time I get an upgrade power. (Also one of the reasons Thugs is so cool and why I was initially turned off from robots)

To summarize:
Ninjas seem to be missing a strong attack chain with their full upgrades, have little defense and only basic mez protections for their role as front line melee fighters (remember anytime you play a lowbie scrapper, stalker, or brute that uses a defense set, now imagine that about twice as bad), jounin HAVE A PLACATE, and genin are missing a graphical change.

Some possible solutions:
Teamwork Bonus- This would basically be a small defense buff to a ninja for each ninja you have out, minus one (a genin could not buff their own defense, for example) and possibly minus two (maybe the oni should not count). So if you have all six of your henchmen out, a genin could gain a +2% to their defense bonus for the 2 other genin out, a +4% for the 2 jounin out, and a +5% resistance to smash, lethal, and fire from the oni.

Additional attacks per upgrade- Have Train Ninjas grant genin cobra's strike and jounin flashing steel. Kuji-in Zen can give genin Crippling Axe kick, jounin gain Build Up, and oni gain Fire Cages or Flash Fire

Straight up Buff- Raise defenses across the board by some percentage, give them a resistance to defense debuff, and possibly protection from Knockback and repel so they can melee with abandon.

Full on Changes to the Powers and Pets- I'm not even going to go over this one, between all the anime, movies, and surprisingly, cartoons and toys too I've seen, ninja could be changed to a whole slew of things up to and including this example genin change:
Jounin: The second jounin you summon will be a Kunoichi, a female ninja skilled in the arts of deception and battle.
Kunoichi stats-
Resistances:
11.2% defense (ranged, melee, AoE)
3. Protection (Confuse)
50% Resistance (Confuse)
400% resistance (Taunt, Placate)
Powers:
Poison Dart, Cobra's Strike, Flash, Smoke Grenade*, Group Invisibility*, Crippling Axe Kick*, Deceive**, Dragon's Tail**, Eagle's Claw**,
*Gained with Train Ninja
**Gained with Kuji-in Zen

Misc change suggestions:
Give Genin their hip pouches for their first upgrade- This is exactly what it says on the tin.

Add some storm powers to the oni or change the description- "Summons an ancient and powerful Oni, a formidable creature who possesses the skill of a warrior and the powers of wind and fire" I see lots of fire but the closest I see to the Wind part is the Rain of Fire, and maybe the wind needed to propel the fire blasts.

Change Smoke Flash- Maybe, looking at it now it doesn't seem entirely bad, but maybe it would be better if it could hide the MM, because for being a ninja lord, you certainly don't demonstrate a lot of ninja abilities yourself.

Give Jounin and Genin ninja run animation- Thanks to Cursed for reminding me, though personally, I don't think it would mesh well with the Oni's theme. (Who seems to be kind of stretch with the ninjas thing as it is)