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Nah. Primal Hami would get his butt handed to him by Praetorian Hami.

If he had a butt.

Or hands.

Quite possibly, yes, but who or what is Ultimatum? Who backs them? What is their goal? And it seems clear that Ultimatum knew about Praetoria before ever sending Maelstrom in. Where did they get that info? Why would they want to attack Praetoria?

There's still a lot there that hasn't been told, particularly as we reach the aftermath of the Primal-Praetorian War. Someone should be held accountable.

There's an article written from his perspective that heralded one of the in-game events (can't find it right now) that, as I recall, seemed to portray him in a somewhat benevolent "conspiring against Tyrant" light.

In retrospect, that may have stemmed more from proddings by Dominatrix, but I can't say for sure without rereading it. And I can't find it.

Isn't that for a tribunal to decide? Particularly when it was Primal Earth who fired the first shot over the bow.

And we're still waiting to learn exactly who was responsible for that debacle. (Though my money's on Malta.)

Which, in and of itself, doesn't make him much worse than say, Blue Steel.

I think one of the reasons my Corruptor had less hassle with them than my Scrapper was AoEs. Helped to reduce the hp on a larger number at once, at which point I could whittle them down individually, as opposed to having to try to take them out individually each time.

EDIT: To clarify, I didn't pull the entire groups all at once; only two to three at most, and even then not on purpose. I would snipe individually, but occasionally pull multiples, but it actually worked in my favor with my Corruptor for the reasons above, ie, AoEs. Normally, my Scrapper is much more effective against groups than my Troller, but in this case- particularly with the Cyclops'- it wasn't the case.

Yay! Zwillinger just verified that King's Row, Skyway, and Boomtown are getting revamped into Vigilante/Rogue zones!!!

Ah, should have clarified. The Rikti were previously unaware of this until that arc, but I'd still say that the vast majority of the Rikti are still unaware of it, and perhaps even the Restructurists are not aware of it, given their... disagreements... with the Traditionalists. At best, they're willfully ignorant of it, since it doesn't fit into their plans (and, I'd argue, is really the only way to justify their working with the Praetorians in the Apex TF or anywhere else, for that matter.)

Ah. I've only played through that the one time, so didn't recall that part. I guess that does explain the Rikti and Hydra presence in that TF, come to think of it. (Although I think it seems a bit... weird.)

That's a bit of a broad sketch of the Praetor's plans, but I'll forgive you since I know you're part of the Resistance, and your minds have been twisted by the rantings of a known madman.

This is pretty much how I see it- Night Ward is functionally the equivalent of Avalon. So Excalibur's presence there doesn't really indicate anything about where the cities of the Praetors (or First Ward) might be located on Praetorian Earth.

Although, considering the Rikti don't know Nemesis instigated the war, but assume it was Primal Earth due to the Freedom Phalanx 'bots that Nemesis used, and while the Primal Phalanx are pretty clearly benevolent, whereas Praetoria has these blatantly non-benevolent near-duplicates of the Phalanx, you might think they'd put two and two together and change their assumptions.

They'd still have the wrong instigator, mind, but at least they'd be closer to the mark.

(BTW, where is it established that the Rikti know of Praetoria? I have a Rikti/Praetoria AE story that's been germinating for some time, and it might affect how I eventually tell the tale.)

I don't think Taskmaster Burke and Matthew Burke are supposed to be counterparts; they seem to be two entirely distinct berks... err, I mean Burkes.

Unless there's another Burke red/blueside that you're thinking of?

Not only that- Wretch is a cop, Seer Marino is dead. Calvin Scott's a nutter and never married Aurora. Among other things. Yes, some big differences in addition to the small ones.

And Praetorian Hamidon will turn out to be some shlub named Hamilton, I bet.

Sucks for the guy trying to invite you to team, though.

I think that Seige and Nighstar are currently considered dead; Metronome has taken over Seige's body, notably.

As you say, though, as AIs, they could pretty easily go either way.

He's definitely alive. Metronome laments that we *didn't* kill him.

Pretty safe to say, although it's possible she could have survived somewhere on the Astral Plane. Like Seige and Nighstar, though, I believe she's supposed to be considered dead.

Dominatrix is definitely alive. She shows up at the beginning of the Magisterium Trial with Aurora and Desdemona.

I'm guessing they're alive, too. The heroes survive his "nuke", after all. In any case, Shadowhunter's been dead, done that, bought the t-shirt and returned once before (in this issue, in fact), and given Black Swan's connections to the Shadow Realm and Night Ward, she could probably come back pretty easily.

Nega-Pendragon isn't even a real boy, at least as near as I can gather from the little we know of his origin (the negative emotions of Pendragon made manifest), so I'm not even sure he/it *can* die.

Agreed. It's like the appallingly dismissive term "popcorn movie." It's just giving someone a pass for telling a crappy story.

(Not to mention, shouldn't every movie be a popcorn movie? I really, really hate that term.)

As has been pointed out, that only applies to Nova Praetoria- Cole's "personal" city. Imperial City and Neutropolis are both still intact, as is First Ward (well, as intact as FW ever is), as well as presumably any and all of the other cities of Praetoria that exist that we have never seen, but have heard of at least (such as New Vegas, and there's at least one other one that is named in story arcs but I can't think of the name offhand.)