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Is Tyrant dead? Mag trial spoilers

Arilou

By Arilou,
Posted on: 2012-06-13 22:23 in CoH and CoV General Discussions

 

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So after we complete the Mag trial are we lead to believe we killed him? I have been confused by this.

Or is he left alive and we simply disconnected him from the Well leaving him powerless?

 

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I believes the dev said that he's still alive.

 

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I believes the dev said that he's still alive.
So that explains where we get the Hami-Bait...

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I believes the dev said that he's still alive.
Where did they say that?

 

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Ok, could we have a role call on which of the Praetorian Guard is actually deceased? Because, as far as I can tell, we have:

Battle Maiden: Captured, shipped off to Siberia, now a member of Malta.
Neuron/Bobcat: Beat up in opening salvos of the war in their home dimension. Embarrassed, but likely MedPortered out. Actually, Neuron provides Marauder with a super-serum at a later date.
Seige: Known infomorphic AI. Probably survived the BAF fiasco by uploading to another frame.
Nightstar: Possibly a more hardware-based AI. Linked to Seige, so possibly uploaded elsewhere. (Considering we don't see them after the BAF, they may have downloaded themselves to Voyager II, and are leaving the solar system for all we know )
Marauder: Another early defeat. The Praetorian teleport network is still up at that point. Unless Neuron's super-serum interfered with things, he probably MedPortered to safety.
Anti-Matter: May not have trusted any hospital Berry had a hand in, but there's that space station of his he could have teleported to...
Malaise/Mother Mayhem: Deceased.
Dominatrix: Presumably rescued from Mot with Ice Mistral and the others devoured during the Dark Astoria storyline. Unikely to have stayed in the city afterwards to be caught by Diabolique.
Maelstrom: (Only included because Cole seems to like him). If not dead, probably suffering crippling psychological issues after failing his master so badly.
Diabolique: ??? Have not participated in a DD trial. Any aftermath dialogue from Dream Doctor?
Black Swan/Chimera/Shadowhunter/Nega-Pendragon: all laying on the ground or in adjacent hospital to Magesterium when Cole nuked Nova Praetoria. Presumed dead.
Cole: Technically alive, but de-powered drastically, much like Reichsman.

I miss anybody?

 

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Seige: Known infomorphic AI. Probably survived the BAF fiasco by uploading to another frame.
I think that Seige and Nighstar are currently considered dead; Metronome has taken over Seige's body, notably.

As you say, though, as AIs, they could pretty easily go either way.

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Anti-Matter: May not have trusted any hospital Berry had a hand in, but there's that space station of his he could have teleported to...
He's definitely alive. Metronome laments that we *didn't* kill him.

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Malaise/Mother Mayhem: Deceased.
Pretty safe to say, although it's possible she could have survived somewhere on the Astral Plane. Like Seige and Nighstar, though, I believe she's supposed to be considered dead.

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Dominatrix: Presumably rescued from Mot with Ice Mistral and the others devoured during the Dark Astoria storyline. Unikely to have stayed in the city afterwards to be caught by Diabolique.
Dominatrix is definitely alive. She shows up at the beginning of the Magisterium Trial with Aurora and Desdemona.

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Black Swan/Chimera/Shadowhunter/Nega-Pendragon: all laying on the ground or in adjacent hospital to Magesterium when Cole nuked Nova Praetoria. Presumed dead.
I'm guessing they're alive, too. The heroes survive his "nuke", after all. In any case, Shadowhunter's been dead, done that, bought the t-shirt and returned once before (in this issue, in fact), and given Black Swan's connections to the Shadow Realm and Night Ward, she could probably come back pretty easily.

Nega-Pendragon isn't even a real boy, at least as near as I can gather from the little we know of his origin (the negative emotions of Pendragon made manifest), so I'm not even sure he/it *can* die.

 

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Diabolique: ??? Have not participated in a DD trial. Any aftermath dialogue from Dream Doctor?
Dream Doctor stabbed her in the ending cutscene with the 'Dagger of Jocas', eradicating her existance and very being, the stabbing itself couldn't be seen however as the screen faded to black.

 

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Diabolique: ??? Have not participated in a DD trial. Any aftermath dialogue from Dream Doctor?
Without spoiling too much of DD, Diabolique is very definitely dead afterward.

Edit: Ninjaed. And, yeah, that.

 

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Diabolique isn't just dead: (she was dead all along) she's now most definitely deader than dead.

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Marauder: Another early defeat. The Praetorian teleport network is still up at that point. Unless Neuron's super-serum interfered with things, he probably MedPortered to safety.
Cole's personal mission comments on White being unreachable, rather than dead.


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Dominatrix: Presumably rescued from Mot with Ice Mistral and the others devoured during the Dark Astoria storyline. Unikely to have stayed in the city afterwards to be caught by Diabolique.
She's present in the Magisterium trial. She flees with Desdemona and Aurora.


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Diabolique: ??? Have not participated in a DD trial. Any aftermath dialogue from Dream Doctor?
Not even a wisp remains.


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I miss anybody?
Infernal probably never got the memo that stuff was going down and to this day is hunting demons underground somewhere, totally unwary of what's been going on up above.