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I think those fall under the "PBAoE" category Flux mentioned.

Yeah, it didnt change when they changed Phase's to toggle intangible/tangible every 30 seconds. The end cost was always prohibitively high, and back before they changed phases in general it started at 6 and went up from there the longer you were in it...

It does need to come down though.

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That would make such an awesome running gag...

The idea is you get your resistance from Cosmic Balance, 10% per blaster/scrapper/etc while grouped, and while solo you're running defense and still would get some resist from the solo effect of Cosmic Balance. In this way if you're on a team with 7 blaster/scrapper/brute/etc's you aren't wasting a huge amount of your shields because of resist caps, or because you're running lightform/eclipse. In the end we'd still be sturdy, still have capped hitpoints, and could cap our resists via eclipse/lightform, but our shields are actually worth taking for when we group. You get hit a little harder but a lot less often.

Its more that with the proposed changes I suggested prior, that the forms lose some luster. So I figured giving them a more tankish effect of a buff/debuff that grows as they hold the enemies attention would bring some of said luster back. It's an effect that human form couldn't do, and would help them do the thing that they'd be rewarded by it for in holding aggro. It also would scale, so if you're getting overwhelmed, shifting to dwarf is probably a good idea. Dwarf would just need some help if the other changes went through...beyond being large, its not got anything going for it that Human form cant do itself...cept teleport but that's not exactly a reason to take a shapeshifting power is it?

I cant talk for Warshades, but I imagine they like it for another sunless mire. Less duration, but dropping OUT of a form takes way less time than shifting IN to one.

Id not have it give a debuff if it was me. Id not let it stack either, and id probably keep it slightly lower a buff than actual Rage. Its more that too much of buildup is lost in switching forms, so making buildup last longer is a good idea. Its why Sunless Mire works out so well for Warshades, 30% of it isn't eaten up by switching forms.

The restriction has only loosened slightly. The new inherent fitness now works in them, and a handful of temp/veterean powers do (Sometimes sporadically). Incarnate Powers do work in them though.

Basically we've went from "nothing works in them" to "maybe a few things...when they feel like it".

You're probably gonna ask why I only have the one slot in photon seekers...

A) They've got a naturally high accuracy out of the gate. So extra accuracy isn't very needed. They're more likely to miss because the other enemy is standing just out of their explosion radius than they are because they just miss...at least from my experience.

B) Its cooldown is about on par with Dawn Strike at current enhancement/recharge levels. I like to stagger them, first Photon seekers, then a spawn or so later, Dawn Strike. They keep on a nice steady schedule like this.

C) I ran out of slots elsewhere...


If I hadn't been eschewing purples for this build, I'd have slapped the Soulbound Alliegance DMG in there instead of the plain jane blood mandate; scratch out just a little more damage boost on it.

I prioritize my shields versus the enemies we're fighting. Shining shield is always on, thermal and quantum come on depending on if what I'm fighting deals elemental or energy damage. Alternate between conserve energy and Light form to handle my energy needs, which are less than you'd think. If you don't mind losing perma-hasten switch out the spiritual alpha IO for a Cardiac, it should shore up the slight end deficiency. For Interface, Ive got Diamagnetic (Tohit debuff side), Reactive (DoT side), and Paralytic (Dmg debuff side). I run the DoT most of the time, though Diamagnetic's a close second. Lore and Judgement just take whatever floats your boat, I went Ion and Warworks. Ill likely get a PPD Kheld (You know the ones) when/if they ever become available.

Anyways, that's my build for comparison/inspiration giving. Its fairly flexible, and works for my preferred playstyle. I hop forms as the situation demands, though I've had a recent preference for human form, that may just be because of the incarnate trials I've focused on running though. Having all my tools available there is just a really nice thing.

Except there is no need for kheld only enhancements.

If all you want is an enhancement with more damage boost than a normal enhancement then again...Common IO's at 50 give more boost than an SO.

If you want enhancements that improve more than one aspect of a power, again already in the game...IO's and Hami-O's.

If you just want Squidlobster Brand Enhancements (Now with 30% more pwn!), well...more power to you, but I really doubt we'll convince the dev's to give us our own designer fashion enhancements. That's a whole heap of work that could be better spent fixing our wonky powers, and adjusting our numbers up slightly to compensate for the lack of slots.

Also solves the problem of separating us from the rest of the game more through our own little private section of the IO system. We've been separated long enough as is. The standards for other AT's and the standards for khelds are so out of whack with each other its ridiculous that its gone on this long.

I don't want us to be special snowflakes judged in a vacuum. I want to be judged with everyone else.

The point is more to make it useful when switching forms. You lose a lot of the bonus when shifting to nova, as a rage it might not be the greatest boost ever, but its more that it would be far less time constrained, and the boost isn't losing so much of its effect waiting on the form change animation.

How about an aura debuff with taunt then?

Say, -recharge, or -res, or just a DoT of some kind? Like I said, the defense/regen are just the obvious suggestions. All sorts of effects you could put into an aura taunt. Could do like Sonic and we just naturally emit a "Doughnut of Doom" doing -res around us. Call it the dwarf having its own gravitational technobabble or something...

Eh, leave em be? I mean we'd already be getting resistance out of our inherent, and Light form comes with its own limitations (locking out of forms, the crash at the end). With IO's and incarnate abilities layering of mitigation is already going on. Paralytic can give -dmg, -dmg is just reverse-resistance as far as I'm concerned. Same with Diamegnetic's -tohit being reverse-defense.

As for Photon seekers, I like them as pets too, but the explosion on them needs to be bigger, as in "Further than standing right on top of each other", or the recharge needs to go down. They're little suicide pets, and intended to be, but the recharge on them is too long for the small little explosion they actually do....they're also still dumb as a box of rocks, so the best way to use them is as a Nuke. Hug what you want to blow up, then trigger them.

I'd be okay with the damage buff to allies around them...I'd be okay with a lot of things really. I know one friend suggested once that the seekers should have a chance to summon their own seekers when they blow up, so you get like a chain reaction going on.

Invention Enhancements.

But not really, we're still short on slots. The IO's help make it a smaller problem than it used to be.

Personally, I think they need to just bake some of those improvements into our powers from the start. slightly higher damage than the powers they're copied from, or better recharge, or better accuracy, etc, etc, etc...

Past that? For PB's at least...

I want cosmic balance to provide me some bonus while solo. Same thing as Defender's getting a bonus while solo for THEIR inherent. I suggest 30/30/3 dmg/res/mezprot, and have it lose 10/10/1 per teammate added (They still provide their usual bonus so it "shifts" the effect rather than a loss).

I want dwarf form to get some form of scaling taunt-aura effect. Either defense for enemies around us, or regen...or something else totally neat and useful that none of us have thought of yet. Its the one tool dwarf lacks in its toolset, and with the other changes to human form stuff I'm suggesting would probably keep it as a power worth taking.

I want Buildup on PB's to become a rage-esque effect so its not mostly lost switching forms. Lesser damage bonus out of it of course, but the longer duration will make up for it, and make it useful in all forms, which most of our clicky-buff powers should be.

I want Group Energy Flight taken out of my secondary and replaced with something actually worth taking. Some sorta group buff aura or clicky would be kinda nice. Should give us group energy flight at 30, if nothing else you might actually see a group travel power used if its handed out.

I want our shields changed from resistance to defense. I find I just don't need them on a lot of the teams I'm on thanks to a prevalence of brutes and scrappers. Changing them to defense keeps their usefulness in providing protection while not losing most of the effect thanks to grouping with characters that trigger so much of your resistance bonus inherent that you cap.

I want Pulsar or Incandescent strike changed to match the others mez type. They just don't have synergy with each other but they should. Pulsar should either become a hold, or Incandescent strike a stun. I don't much care which they go with really.

I want Photon seeker's to either become an actual "nuke", with the three pets firing off in larger than a 10 foot radius, or I want the cooldown reduced from its nova-esque state. Im open to other suggestions here as well since the seekers themselves have been dumb as dirt from day 1 and still aren't all that much smarter today.

I also want a pony...no reason really, I just think a pony is the standard thing to ask for in MMO's today...


That's what id change about PB's...couple of those are easily portable to WS's too, like the taunt aura for dwarf, the shields from resist to defense, the solo effect out of cosmic balance. Hell give em a group teleport version of their teleport at 30 to match the suggestion of giving PB's group energy flight at 30...

Here's hoping they find time to "get around to us" sooner rather than later though.

Actually one of the rares of Clarion is Perma. The very rare upgrade just increases the area it effects when you trigger it. Its the only one of the destiny buffs like that I've seen.

Id suggest getting it first, but once you've got said rare one, immediately start working on another one. Rebirth or Barrier, are my suggestions. Ive kinda had a thing for rebirth's regen side myself.

Clarion's good for soloing, but if you're in a large group (like you will be in the trials) you'll have the team's "natural padding" (IE: More warm bodies to draw enemy fire that aren't yours) to help with the mez's flying about...of which there really aren't that many in the trials. BAF is pure robot, and mostly the seers in Lambda. You shouldnt be charging the seer's head on anyways because some sadistic dev decided to give them drain psyche, which will eat your endurance bar and make all that status prot useless anyways.

No, it was mostly a "Get them to pipe down about it" statement because there were a couple of us there asking about khelds...a bunch...So he mentioned we were on the list to be looked at, time permitting.

Its better than no acknowledgement at all, but not as good as an actual dialogue, which we desperately need. I don't see it happening anytime soon though.

*Checks the game*

...Well by jimminy it HAS changed...

No clue when they snuck it in, but snuck in it was. Not exactly HUGE GAMEALTERING CHANGES, but hey...least it wasn't a nerf.

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Ninja run doesn't work in dwarf for me at all anymore.

Its a step up from "We'd like to get around to it" at least. Id still have liked something a bit more concrete than "When we get around to it." though.

I know, just saying.

No offense intended.

Doesn't make it right. Doesn't make it okay; and doesn't mean we should just give up on it.

Id do something a bit more subtle. If they ever use him again, which they might considering the after TF text from Sutter.

Give him a helmet.

Except when it doesn't.

Stupid chance at mag 3...