Arbegla

Are we certain its a minor +res? Do we know the duration? Do we know the proc rate? Can we put it into a damage aura, or quick recharging power, and have it stack?

Look, simply put tankers were designed to be able to take a beating. And they can dish out some pretty decent DPS numbers as well (look at the Pylon results thread, before incarnates came along) so adding in a proc that will benefit 80% of all tanker builds (maybe even more, due to the ones that rely on defense suddenly getting a proc to have layered mitigation, thus effectively increasing their survival even more) really isn't a bad idea.

Plus its a melee damage IO set. Its also not even on the beta server yet to play with. It could change. There could be more then 1 AT IO set. We just don't know.

While in normal game play, this is usually correct, in instants where your hitting the damage cap, due to the nature of Defiance, no more +dmg will benefit you, but Scourge will still do double damage, effectively increasing the Corruptors to much higher caps then the blaster.

Solo, the above issue really won't come to up, unless you playing a /kin corr, vs well, any blaster. But on large teams (especially leagues) its very possible to be at the damage cap for very long periods of time, causing the blaster to lose out on possible damage.

I stand corrected. I mistook CR for build up. But the point still kinda stands, the Combo system is Street Justice is leaps and bounds better then the combo system in Dual Blades.

Eh, the combo system in Street Justice isn't nearly as bad as the button mashing you have with Dual Blades. Basically, you have 3 finishers, 1 BU powers, and 5 combo builders. Any of those 5 combo builders, when hitting a target, will build 1 or more combo points (AS builds 2 on stalkers, but placate doesn't build any, so its made up in AS) Plus BU automatically gives you 3 combo points.

Then, you just hit a finishers (which is either 2 AOEs, or a very hard hitting single target attack) and you do additional, free damage based on the number of combo points you have.

Unlock Dual Blades where you literally have to hit power A then power B then power C, hope they all land, and then you'll get your combo. Street Justice is much more forgiving of misses, and much easier to build up combos.

That shouldn't be an issue. Granted, i still think demon/thermal would be slightly better due to being able to put forth close to the resistance cap, and have healing to back it up, but /sonic should be able to solo, and solo well.

Burnout's base recharge is 30 mins, but at the recharge cap (400%) you can get it down to 6 minutes..

Truth. Not true, you get it free with /time.
Truth, but didn't you have to buy Kinetic melee?
Truth, but again, didn't you have to buy Demon Summoning.. or dual pistols, or Elec control?
Most of the powersets, on BETA are being priced at 800 points. So.. 2 month subscription gives you those powersets for free. Plus we're getting a lump sum of points once Freedom hits live (its currently at like 1200 points i think, 400 a month since july)

Currently if you want a new powerset thats locked before a purchase, you have to dish out the cold hard cash for it. With freedom, you have the option of dishing out the cash, OR waiting until you get enough free points to just buy it then.

Also, Aren't we getting Ice armor stalkers, regen brutes, SR tankers, etc for free? Poison for Controllers, sonic for MMs. Yea, they aren't entirely new powersets, but they are new for the ATs that are getting them.

You can lower the recharge on it via enhancements and alpha boosts. It also may or may not be affected by global recharge.. So you could get it down to 10-ish minute recharge pretty easy, even after DR..

50% regeneration resistance, which is what you can currently get on Beta with basically the exact same slotting your running on live (assumine 2 IOs worth of heal in fast healing)

Thats enough regeneration resistance to handle just about any -regen that gets thrown your way, especially with IH adding about 1000% to your regen when its active.

You also have to consider power pools like combat jumping, tough, weave and Incarnate abilities like barrier and rebirth. Rebirth +regen basically allows you to rotate between that, and IH nonstop, with recon/DP/Mog being used on the down cycles of rebirth. This will allow you to have massive regen for quite some time which will help out on the DPS values, and let you use your clicks for the spike damages.

The above also doesn't factor in any primary you might have that can provide mitigation, or any IOs that you invest into your build to also increase your mitigation.

As a free (or in your case premium) player you not just keep access to EVERYTHING you've already purchases (this means character slots, booster packs, Collectors edition items, etc) but the new Vet reward system actually gives you access to alot of things for free. Your 33 months right? that means you have 11 + 2 reward 'tokens' to spend once Freedom hits live. If you wait just 3 more months, you get 2 more tokens. With those tokens, you can unlock things like ATs, the IO system, market etc. That is all part of the vet reward system.

Now, if you want access to iTrials, tough luck. If you want access to First ward, well, you can look at it, and even beat up the GM (and maybe even earn the kill badges) but you won't be able to run missions in there without paying for it.

You also have access to EVERYTHING you can before i18. So just pretend your client never got updated to Incarnates, and you get to keep ALL of that. FOR FREE.

You can buy content. Mainly due to the fact that TIME is now FREE. Anything you purchase when not a VIP (meaning you not paying a subscription fee) is your FOREVER. Noone can take that away from you. Now, the VIP option is the best pet, due to getting EVERYTHING you NOW have, plus extra things like 400 points/month, 1 reward token/month (instead of 1 every 3 months) and access to a lot of content you dont have right now. All for the exact same price your paying now.

the only thing going up in price, if you really want to count it, is the Booster Packs. Mainly due to the fact that all the combined powers/costume/emotes will amount to more then 10 bucks (or about 800 points) when i21 gets live. Everything else that you already have, your getting for with our subscription, and some of it you get to KEEP FOREVER if you stop paying.

It can be slotted for Enhancement recharge, and is affected by the Alpha boost, but latest testing shows its unaffected by Global recharge (so things like ageless, and hasten won't affect it)

Granted, Synapse said that might be a bug... so you could in theory get a 6 minute burnout recharge time.... which is just often enough to make things like Strength of will and One with the shield (and IH, and Mog, and the list goes on and on) into double stacking, or even close to perma level beasts.

Eh, Willpower only has massive regen when your surrounded by enemies, which gives it more of a 'Willing myself to survive this beating' then regen, which is more like 'Hey, you cut off my arm, tis only a flesh wound (reconstruction) see? new arm.'

Quoted for the sad sad truth.

The thing is, NOTHING can dish out 1000DPS nonstop without the player having a means to either kill said target, or have a way to mitigate the damage. So using your own example, its not possible in game.

Plus even your softcapped Willpower or SR wouldn't be able to survive that much DPS being thrown at them, so your example doesn't so much prove your point as it just overkills everything.

And /regen doesn't really want to worry about damage types as much as other powerset. healing is basically a counter to ANY damage type. Its nice to have some defense or resistance (or even both) to the more common damage types, but that Psi blast that just took over half the invulns HP out will do the same to the regen. The difference being, the regen can pop Reconstruction and be back to 100%, every 15 - 20 seconds. that invuln has to rely on Dull Pain, and being able to kill that psi dealing enemy before they can kill it.

Same goes for Energy, Toxic, Negative... The burst healing, and high passive regen you can get on a /regen, especially a brute with 3k HP (accolades, dull pain, etc) means it will take an awful lot to make you fall, especially if your active on your secondary.

Is /regen for everyone? Probably not. But is it gimped because its not a toggle and forget playstyle? No. In order to keep the SR alive against unpositional attacks, or autohit attacks, you need to hit aid self, rebirth destiny, or pop inspirations. That /regen just hits IH and keeps on going.

If you can name anything in that game that will deal out a constant 1,000Damage Per second with the player having no way to kill said target within a reasonable timeframe (say 10 seconds, as even an SR would last that long) then i'll consede the point and not mention it again.

I knew i was doing something wrong... Now can you run some numbers on my /regen survivial? I think i did that right.. not sure.

And you can't kill mobs before they kill you? Also interesting. MoG allows you to take the alpha, and kill things with the comfort of above softcap survival so that when MoG drops you aren't facing that full brunt of the damage.

/regen isn't nearly as squishy as you seem to think, especially with any other form of mitigation is a force multiplier for /regen. Adding just 30% resistance means your not just decreasing the incoming damage by 30%, but your increasing the time you have to regen by 30%. Add 10% defense, and those few attacks that miss give you the chance to heal 300 or more HP.

Look at this another way. Before Arcanaville slaps you with some math.

Softcapped defense means your only taking 5% of incoming damage (averaged out) 5% of 1000DPS is still 50DPS.

Lets look at regen again shall we? 1000DPS. Most regens can get 50hp/second passive. Before dull pain/recon/IH, etc. So now your looking at 950DPS. OK, factor in Dull Pain, which boosts your hp/second from 50 to 70 (knocking another 20 DPS off) but it heals you for 80% of your HP, or about 1050 every 140 seconds, or giving you 7.5 more hp/second.

So now your only taking 922.5DPS. Lets factor in recon. that heals you for 50% (about 680 hp) every 20 seconds, or about 34 more hp/second. putting you at 888.5DPS.

Now lets do IH. Slotted up, it'll give you about 1000% more regen, or about 100hp/second on top of what you already have, knocking another 100 off your incoming DPS.

Your now taking 788.5 DPS after factoring in your clicks, and passive regen. Then you do MoG. MoG will put you so far above the softcap that you'll almost never face cascading failure with it active. That knocks your incoming damage 95% (like the softcap example above does) that puts you down to 39.425 incoming DPS...

Thats before any primary you may have, or even any base defense (combat jumping, weave, set bonuses, etc) plus any resistance you could have from resilience, or tough which lowers the incoming DPS even more.

I'm sure Arcanaville could show the math much better then i could, and i tried my best to use SOs level values, but there you have it. Softcapping is all well and good, but /regen can meet, or even exceed the survivability that a pure softcap build could have.

Quoted for Truth. I'm sitting at 51.XX% resistance to regen debuffs, its pretty awesome right now.

Eh, the plot twist wasn't so much that the baby was breach, it was that the 'hard core anti civilian' commander knew how to make it all better.

It brought a more 'human' feel to this other wise stone cold guy in charge.

But fried Octopi is just so amazing!

True enough. The mu electric fenses, effectively adding KB protection helps a ton against the assault bot missiles, and can even be spammed to immobilize AVs pretty effectively.

I played a bot/storm on test a few times, granted, it was on SOs, but i found it to be too 'chaotic' for my liking. seekers->poison trap->AoE immobilize followed by AM and some caltrops pretty much meant that i wasn't taking very much damage, unless i tossed a provoke in the mix.

Dropping FR, and nado on a group meant i soaked the alpha, and not having Mez protection meant that some groups would just eat me alive (i'd get mez'ed, hurricane would drop, steamy mist would suppress and my pets would run around crazy like) which made it really tough to get a feel for the damage in practice. Now, on paper it looks, and sounds awesome, but when 1 stray mez power puts such a kink in your playstyle it makes it tough to pull off.

The nice thing about /traps is that nearly half its powers soak their own aggro. Seekers are your main -tohit/-dam debuff, and they are about the best alpha soakers in the game. AM is your main -res/-def, and it can draw aggro as well. FFG is your main +def, and it is its own target, so enemies have a chance to attack it, instead of you. All of /storms powers come directly from the MM, so all the aggro they create fall right on top of the MM.

Plus with the fact that /storm is already a pretty high endurance costing set, add in the fact that everything is 1.5x more expensive Endurance wise on a MM, and you can floor your endurance bar in record time.

They each have their pros and cons, and i do remember frosticus discussing things about how powerful bot/storm could be, but my /traps was able to meet, and exceed his numbers for DPS values before incarnated came along. The only numbers i was able to find was with the t4 Spiritual Alpha boost, and I managed to do 344.49DPS. The spiritual only really adds recharge, which helps out caltrops and AM, but as Frosticus bot/storm did 321 without the alpha boost, I'd say storm and traps are about even damage wise.