Aett_Thorn

Okay, several dumb questions first, but this will help us to diagnose the problem.

1) Did you UPGRADE your account, or create a new one?

2) Did you upgrade by clicking on the link in the game, or did you just upgrade online?

3) How long ago did you do this?

It sometimes takes the game client a few hours to catch up to what your account says that it should have. If you UPGRADED your account, and it has been more than a few hours from when you did that (especially if you went through the game), then contact NCSoft support. Otherwise, wait a little bit, and see if it goes away.

Again, there is also the daily limit, set by the company. It won't allow you to make several purchases in the same day, and I think that each time that you try again, it resets the 24-hour clock on that, but I could be wrong on that part.

Wait 24 hours from now, then try to make another purchase. If that doesn't work, then contact NCSoft support.

Not only that, but they'd have to restrict it to certain vet rewards. They can't just wipe out the vet rewards that you've chosen, and then replenish them. Things like costume change tokens, respecs, and merit rewards would all have to be made so that they can't be rechosen.

Well, Willpower is kind of a Regen/Defense/Resistance hybrid set, which is what makes it so great: it's got a little bit of everything, stacked on top of one another.



But how about this for the Tier 8:


Retributive Shatter

While this power will not protect you from dying, nor bring you back, it can be an agent of pain for whoever brings you close to defeat. As you die, your bone armors shatter in a spectacular fashion, damaging all foes around you.

Type: Not sure on this, because a passive might not work with the tier 9 almost killing you, and I don't want it to be able to work with Self Destruct. But it should be on the rest of the time for free.
Effect: Damage similar to Soul Drain, but activated upon death automatically, and does not Rez you.

Don't they tend to now give a free respec on issue release, then a few days/weeks later, give out another?

This issue has come up every once in a while over the years.

The short end of it nowadays is this: "Natural" as an origin covers a lot more than what most people think. Remember that Superman would, in this game, be considered a Natural origin. Any member of his species that comes to our planet develops the same abilities, yet he can fly.


However, I know what you're talking about. You want a travel power for a normal human being. As such, you have a couple of options:

1) Roleplay a bit. Just because your character is a normal human being doesn't mean they couldn't borrow a cool pair of rocket or piston boots from a friend, giving them access to flight/SJ.

2) Slot for movement speed increases.

3) Grab hurdle and Combat Jumping, and use those (provides a decent amount of speed, if you're not in too much of a rush).

4) Buy the Ninja pack, and use Ninja Run to get around, especially if stacked with Hurdle or Swift.


Hope this helps!


Edit -> Drat! beaten to it!

First off, many in this game consider the group-intangibility powers to be kind of useless. Most teams have enough AoE damage potential that they can obliterate the weaker enemies in a short amount of time, and a power like this only increases the amount of time it takes to clear out a group of enemies. I would strongly recommend that you respec and drop this power, unless you solo a lot.

If you want an individual foe intangibility power, you'll need to get a character with either Force Fields or Sonic Resonance. Those two sets get single-target intangibility powers, though they run into the same problem in groups, just not as badly.



Also, since you're new to the forums, welcome! However, if you have related questions (you have two on your Gravity Controller, for instance), you can put them into the same post. Also, your origin isn't really relevant, since it has little to do with the powers in question, so we don't really need that. :-)


Hope this helps!

Well then yeah, I'm at a loss, too.

Maybe interrupt reduction? Can they take those?

There is nothing inherently bad about this. It can be done so that each powerset within the AT can perform the AT's role in a similar fashion, without having to worry about balance issues between sets of that AT. Look at how Rage works versus Build Up, for instance, and you'll see what I'm talking about when trying to compare sets.

While offensively, they tend to stack up well together, maybe with a slight edge to Rage (but the rest of the set is built with it in mind), but if you look at it from the crash's perspective, you'll see that Defense-based primary sets get hit harder from the crash than Resistance-based sets. As such, Rage is not easy to balance with the other Tanker secondaries because of how different it is.

I know of very few Tanks who mind having to take Taunt, and most don't mind having a power that helps them to do their job well. Like was said above, Tankers used to HATE having to take up a power pool slot just to do their basic job. DO NOT take Taunt out of the Tanker secondaries. 8 powers is enough to diversify the sets, IMO.

Because it is far easier to just use AT Modifiers than to create individual powers for each AT within a shared theme? You seem to really misunderstand where these differences between the powersets is coming from. Very few are actually coded differently when moved to other ATs (Masterminds being the one major exception to this, because of how their primaries are set up). Most of the time, a set can be shared with very few problems, because the basic groundwork has already been done.

For instance, you could straight port Ice Armor to Brutes. Just take the set, and allow them to use it. The Devs don't need to make a new set exactly like Ice Armor for them to use. As soon as they got it, their Defense and effect values would be already set up, with the Defense values lower than that of the Tankers, because of the AT modifiers. There's no need to make a new powerset to do it. It's already handled.

This right here I'm interested in seeing a bit, but it does have an inherent problem when you look at some of the individual ATs that you'll be looking at. I will address each one individually below, but that "and never allow enhancements from invention sets" is going to be a problem.

Using up extra slots on powers might not be as well received as you might think. If people are slot-starved (like the EATs tend to be), then adding other, additional things that they need to slot won't be seen as a positive for them.
1) Taunt is a good power that has its uses. It's auto-hit, and is in fact the ONLY auto-hit Taunt effect versus AVs and Giant Monsters. It also has one other useful benefit: It's ranged. Yes, this might seem anti-thematic for Tankers, but having that ranged Taunt option can help in a number of situations. Removing it, and just replacing it with a different version of Gauntlet (though why you'd change something that's working fine as it is is beyond me) and another attack (when a lot of builds already have a complete attack chain) is beyond me.

2) Why? Why not just have your armor values be stronger from the get-go? There's absolutely no need for this to be a level 6 "inherent" power when the armors can just be set to their correct value at the beginning of play. Also, Tankers already have the highest AT modifier for their Threat rating. Boosting it by 1 wouldn't help all that much. Also, Tankers have their powers as about 33% more effective as Scrapper secondary powers. Lowering their base to Scrapper values, then boosting them 23% would be a nerf to Tankers across the boards. Something that they'd now need to slot to get back to the same status quo. That's a bad idea.

3) Hale is just a bad idea. Several Tanker sets can already get to the HP cap, and some can perma-it. Adding 50% HP to an already-capped Tanker does nothing.

4) This means creating whole new powers in every Tanker set, then creating new animations for each of those attacks, three times over. I'd rather have them make a new set, honestly, then try to do this.

5) Additionally, I know a lot of tankers that use enhancement sets to get the bonuses. You'd be taking that option away from them.

Honestly, these would all be either a nerf to scrappers or again completely unnecessary. Their Critical values are higher than that now, especially against bosses. Also, I think that you really need to learn how "inherents" work on many ATs. The Scrapper "inherent" of Critical hits isn't an AT-wide thing. It's baked into each individual attack as a separate value. Adding an across the board 3% value to criticals isn't as easy as you might think that it is.

1) Containment now does +100% Damage to mobs that are somehow controlled. Making it 50%, and then requiring the Controllers to add two slots to the inherent just to get back to current baseline would be seen by most as a nerf, because it would be.

2) I honestly am not sure what you're suggesting here. Are you suggesting that if a Controller uses a hold power, that they get Mag protection from holds? If so, that is a huge buff to many sets, but not so much to others (look at Illusion Controllers, for instance). Also, there would be absolutely no way to slot that, since Defense buff enhancements don't buff Mag protection.

3) Again, a huge buff to an AT that largely doesn't need it. And again, look across all controller sets and you'll see a large disparity here amongst powersets within the AT.

4) This would be used by very few people. The duration and strength of the powers are usually enough, but the damage is where they tend to need help.

1) Same crap-tastic inherent as they have now, only with an extra bonus to powers that are very rarely taken. Gotcha.

2) Depending on the set, this can be overpowering. Force Fields, Sonic, Empathy, etc would be vastly improved by this, while other sets that focus on debuffing, like Radiation, Storm, and Dark would be largely unaffected. This would throw off balance within the AT.

3) Again, animation issues means time I'd rather see the Devs spend on new sets entirely).

4) Not that useful, but not that bad, either.

1) Isn't this slightly worse than current defiance?

2) Again, animation times

3) Why do Blasters get a HP boost, again? They're supposed to be offensive-minded characters. Giving them more defensive values seems anti-thematic.

4) Animation issues, and a nerf to low-level Blasters, as most of them can get Build up sooner than level 20.

[quote]Peacebringer Powers:
1) Energy Flight (toggle) allows you to fly quickly. Enhancements: endurance, fly
6) Cosmic Balance (auto) grants damage boost, damage resistance, recharge resistance, and/or protection based on your mix of teammates. Enhancements: damage, defense, resistance. Now enhance able.
10) Combat Flight (toggle) allows you to fly, slower than energy flight but using less endurance and providing some defense. Enhancements: defense, endurance, fly
20) Energize (auto) grants teammates +3% to maximum endurance, health, and movement, as well as 1 pt of protection from Sleep powers. Enhancements: endurance, defense, fly, heal, jump, range, run. The energy emanating from a Peacekeeper energizes his teammates. [quote]

1) They already get this at level 1, but they'd basically loose their team-based buffs until level 6, which would be a nerf to really low-level PBs.

2) Fine with this, but PBs tend to be slot-starved as it is. Adding another power for them to add slots to would be seen as a nerf.

3) Again, they already have this. IF your idea were to go through, then you'd be offering buffs to other ATs, while leaving PBs pretty much as they are, which would throw them out of balance.

4) 3% would be a waste. It's just too small to even notice on most things.

Mostly the same as my comments on Peacebringers.

Please note that Khelds shifting to Dwarf Form already get a higher AT Threat modifier.

Stopping here because I'm getting tired of writing.

What, the Tsoo don't eat hot dogs? Everybody likes hot dogs, even ancestral spirits called back from the dead. Heck, what did you think the Tsoo offered them to come back in the first place?

You will not need GR to continue playing the game. You will continue to get free issue updates even if you do not purchase GR. They do not charge us for all new content, no, but CoV was exactly the same way: additional optional content at a cost. I see nothing wrong with a paid expansion every now and again, especially when it comes on top of free content, instead of in place of it.

First off, I would like to know where you're getting your numbers from. Not that I have them, but I highly doubt that you know for certain how many new gamers there are versus the old timers.

Secondly, nobody here is saying that they signed up only for the vet rewards, just that the system is working exactly as it was described to work, which is offer a small reward every three months of subscription time.

Considering that the game worked just fine in a much harsher-for-new-characters environment without the Vet Rewards, I think that new players will be just fine without them. If you want me to create a new character that uses none of the vet rewards, I will do so, and be just fine as well.

This. But to expand a little, it's to prevent people from selling characters, and to prevent companies from leveling people up, then moving the characters back to them.

Only if we assume that he/she has played continuously since then. The dates here on the board tell you very little.

I know of several people here on the boards that have recently come back, but their join date still displays as being in 2004, and they've been gone for several years since then.

Actually, they were put in place as a thank you to the people who got them through the lean years. You know, the people who you can thank for this game still being around now.

Putting a system into place to thank those people, then taking that away and saying that anyone with a big enough wallet can get them is a slap in the face to your most loyal customers. Anybody in business will tell you that is a bad idea.

Would a change in Vet rewards to allow them to be purchased mean a decent amount of short-term funding for NCSoft? Possibly. Would is also potentially cause long-term subscribers to feel like they had been betrayed and quit? Also possibly. In this case, it is better to stick on the side of the loyal subscribers, who you know will stick with the game, rather than get a potential short-term upswing in revenue, only to have people quitting the game.