Would you Stay if NCSoft turned Payments back on?

" even during the "glory years" of i6-i12 was it really advertised less than any other games that aren't WoW?"

In a word...YES! I had friends that were life-long comic fans that wanted a game where they could create their own superheroes and didn't realize this game even existed. You ask any layman about an MMO and WoW is the first word they spit out. If you ever walked into a comic shop or watched a superhero cartoon, you should have heard of this game and that's the problem.

That is true but that's also my point; WoW was the unusual beast which is why I wanted to take it out of the equation. In the scheme of other games that occupied a similar market share to CoH's, was CoH's advertisement profile noticeably lower than theirs? Did we see lots of advertisements for SWG, EQII, GW1, DAoC and the other "MMOs that aren't WoW"? and from that point of view was CoHs noticeably absent?

To be honest, before I knew about CoH, WoW (and possibly EvE) was the only game that as a non MMORPG player I knew about, so I'm not sure it's lack of advertising was really a significant enough factor.

I think if CoH had a history of single player games that it could've used as a launch pad in the same way that WoW did, it might have had the playerbase that could've generated sufficient revenues for all of those avenues you mention to be utilised. I wonder if the only reason WoW was able to advertise as heavily as it did (and does) is because back in 2004 if you were a gamer, you'd have heard of Blizzard and probably played Warcraft. No o

That is true but that's also my point; WoW was the unusual beast which is why I wanted to take it out of the equation. In the scheme of other games that occupied a similar market share to CoH's, was CoH's advertisement profile noticeably lower than theirs? Did we see lots of advertisements for SWG, EQII, GW1, DAoC and the other "MMOs that aren't WoW"? and from that point of view was CoHs noticeably absent?

To be honest, before I knew about CoH, WoW (and possibly EvE) was the only game that as a non MMORPG player I knew about, so I'm not sure it's lack of advertising that was really a significant enough factor.

I think if CoH had a history of single player games that it could've used as a launch pad in the same way that WoW did, it might have had the playerbase that could've generated sufficient revenues for all of those avenues you mention to be utilised. I wonder if the only reason WoW was able to advertise as heavily as it did (and does) is because back in 2004 if you were a gamer, you'd have heard of Blizzard and probably played Warcraft.

Well I did hear alot about SWG and EQ2 in advertisment.

Well in SWG case, I just assumed the advertiment was easy due to the star wars franchise and Star Wars already have a huge fan base.

Everquest 2, heard about in advertising before I even started playing MMOs. Even Everquest one, was commonly known about among online gamers and non-gamers alike. Same thing with EVE online.

Many people, some are heavy gamers, never heard of City of Heroes but heard of EVE and Everquest, SWG, even DCUO, and havent played either of those games. Some people that I know that are into comic and super hero genre never heard of COX.

I think COX had an oppotunity to become a household name at least in the vast super hero genre and comic book genre. It just didnt seem to happen.

Or maybe I'm just batting 100% in random asking people about COX and all just so happen to say they never heard of it. A few in early 2012, and they probably joined up, stated they was wishing a good super hero mmo would be released and that they didnt like DCUO and didnt even know the existance of COX until I mentioned it to them.

If people flocked to this game or it was more mainstream would it save the game? Maybe maybe not. This is the the case of electrical/eletronic issues wit hcars sometimes. Sometiems it isnt any one thing, and fixing one error may or may not fix the underlying cause over all but a glitch say in the idle control valve may not completely cause the car to stall but it usually doesnt help but just if it was eliminated as an issue, then you'll definately know that wasnt part of the problem and could focus on the other ones until the real issue is pin pointed. My opinion on it. Nothing more nothing less.

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I guess not. I've come to terms that the game I've spent 5 years of my life playing is about be gone. I will miss it (greatly), but even if it was re-instated, it will not be the same.
If the game is in other hands then NcSoft, then maybe.
If most of the Devs that was layed off returned, most likely.

But in NcSoft hands, no. I have no confidence in them. So the money that Ncsoft would have gained in monthly subscription, went to Chris Roberts "Star Citizen".
This way I get a game I want (ok about 2 years until it gets here, but it will come), made by Developers I know can deliver, funded primarily by the playerbase (Crowdfunding) and not coorporations.

And its still not too late to pledge (They gave a grace period, due to internet problems (too many clicked refresh or was on the page to pledge )
I'm looking forward to once again play a game like Wing Commander and Freelancer, cause thats what Star Citizen will be.

@Anti Proton. Sad part is, When ever I see "Big Bang Theory" and they enter the comic shop... there is a poster for City of Heroes there....

Something along the lines of "Close, but no cigar."

Not without development.

To keep my beloved characters alive I just might. What would really turn the tide for me, though, is an apology and an agreement to get back what staff they could from this whole debacle.

Excellent post Atlantea, and sums up my feelings exactly. The days of my freely buying stuff for any of my characters I might create in any other MMO are OVER.

I might just find a single-player PC game I can tolerate, or maybe finally break down and buy a PS3; at least no one can take those games away from me. I never bothered with a PS3, because this game filled my gaming needs nicely and I had friends here, whom I preferred to play with.

But thats over now.

p.s. I like your sig, even as it makes me sad.

I would for sure.

I wouldn't even need any new content...just maintenance to keep the servers running smoothly and to fix any lingering bugs.