It's Over


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Yep. Lies and a polite "**** off." Don't think anyone is going to believe they tried to sell it.


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Ah well. It may resurface in a few years as abandonware or freeware.


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Ah well. It may resurface in a few years as abandonware or freeware.


It's an MMO. The client is useless without the server infrastructure. And vice versa.



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They acknowledged what all people were doing, that's good. That'll give an extra boost to media coverage at the least.

Whenever whatever NDAs / severance package stipulations are over with though, their wording can very well bite them in the ***.


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It's been over. It was over in August. We were just hoping something might come through in the end, which it still can. This really doesn't change anything, people are still going to try what they can and the game is still shutting down Nov 30, just like it was Sept 1.

Just have to wait and see and enjoy the time we have left.


 

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I learned something about myself from all this.

Apparently, I'm a massive pessimist. Who knew.


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I learned that Hit Streak hates Mr. Rogers and won't let you post pictures of him.


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Maybe the liger killed the game.... hmmm lol


 

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Basically. Now it's our move.


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Whenever whatever NDAs / severance package stipulations are over with though, their wording can very well bite them in the ***.
It's still unlikely Paragon staffers will have anything very negative to say about NCSoft. Unless they do so anonymously. Being publicly critical of ex-employers can hurt future job searches.


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It's not over.

They staggered. HIT HARDER.

To quote Larry Dixon (Yes, that's Mercedes Lackey's husband, they've both been in on the fight since day 1):

Larry Dixon: *shrug* It's as "real" as anything else NCsoft says or does. That'll flip if they want it to. What it *is* is an admission that they've noticed enough to respond to it "on company letterhead." Its face value is meaningless.

The REAL takeaway from this is "Hey this is starting to hurt, stop it guys!" If the revival efforts meant nothing, NCsoft would not post what amounts to "Elvis has left the building." And that is all that is. They want the negative attention to stop. That is an official attempt at deflection. Or, in political terms, an "Un-Answer."

It appears to be a response but actually accomplishes nothing except silence those who weren't very into it. Like I say, what it says is irrelevant; the thing to take notice of is that it was put there at all. And that means time to step it up because the other fighter just staggered.

If the "Save CoH/We love Paragon" etc. efforts were ineffective, we'd never have seen such a statement. The hidden meaning of that note is that it has dawned on somebody that this is developing into "anti-NCsoft," not "Save-CoH," so they issued a mollifying statement with a lot of buttonpushing feel-warm cozy buttons about how special what they just murdered was to them.

Now they reap the mistrust they sowed, they can see the coverage increase, the caution against them and the players taking their money away in droves, and we can look them steely in the eyes and reply "Too bad. It's just business. Isn't it."

The "exhausted all options" is bizspeak for "We didn't get what we wanted, so we stopped bothering to find solutions." Businesspeople who truly WANT a result ALWAYS find a way, they never "exhaust all options." So right there is an admission from NCsoft that they're very bad businesspeople. Most certainly unimaginative and inflexible.

Shortest form: As a strategist, the hits are being felt by NCsoft, and they've barely begun.

Second message: This is the murderer issuing an official statement that they "really tried hard" not kill what they had a choice about murdering, and hoping that "Oh they loved it like I did, they're really sorry!" should be your takeaway from that and that should make EVERYTHING just fine, right?

I don't take "We loved it too!" as anything but an insult to our intelligence.

Nah, this is a "There, that'll shut'em up" attempt, as if talking to six-year-olds.


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It's an MMO. The client is useless without the server infrastructure. And vice versa.

I understand that but people were running their own wow servers for a while. you never know.


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i read the announcement but not for one moment did i believe any of it was more than just BS PR response

its been ~1 month since the announcement and supposed negotiations, but im getting more feeling that there were never really any serious negotiations happening

there is no way that ncsoft could have exhausted all possibilities in 1 month when most business negotiations can easily take longer than that


 

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Originally Posted by Sith_Rose View Post
It's not over.

They staggered. HIT HARDER.

To quote Larry Dixon (Yes, that's Mercedes Lackey's husband, they've both been in on the fight since day 1):

Larry Dixon: *shrug* It's as "real" as anything else NCsoft says or does. That'll flip if they want it to. What it *is* is an admission that they've noticed enough to respond to it "on company letterhead." Its face value is meaningless.

The REAL takeaway from this is "Hey this is starting to hurt, stop it guys!" If the revival efforts meant nothing, NCsoft would not post what amounts to "Elvis has left the building." And that is all that is. They want the negative attention to stop. That is an official attempt at deflection. Or, in political terms, an "Un-Answer."

It appears to be a response but actually accomplishes nothing except silence those who weren't very into it. Like I say, what it says is irrelevant; the thing to take notice of is that it was put there at all. And that means time to step it up because the other fighter just staggered.

If the "Save CoH/We love Paragon" etc. efforts were ineffective, we'd never have seen such a statement. The hidden meaning of that note is that it has dawned on somebody that this is developing into "anti-NCsoft," not "Save-CoH," so they issued a mollifying statement with a lot of buttonpushing feel-warm cozy buttons about how special what they just murdered was to them.

Now they reap the mistrust they sowed, they can see the coverage increase, the caution against them and the players taking their money away in droves, and we can look them steely in the eyes and reply "Too bad. It's just business. Isn't it."

The "exhausted all options" is bizspeak for "We didn't get what we wanted, so we stopped bothering to find solutions." Businesspeople who truly WANT a result ALWAYS find a way, they never "exhaust all options." So right there is an admission from NCsoft that they're very bad businesspeople. Most certainly unimaginative and inflexible.

Shortest form: As a strategist, the hits are being felt by NCsoft, and they've barely begun.

Second message: This is the murderer issuing an official statement that they "really tried hard" not kill what they had a choice about murdering, and hoping that "Oh they loved it like I did, they're really sorry!" should be your takeaway from that and that should make EVERYTHING just fine, right?

I don't take "We loved it too!" as anything but an insult to our intelligence.

Nah, this is a "There, that'll shut'em up" attempt, as if talking to six-year-olds.
Thank you very much for this.


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It's still unlikely Paragon staffers will have anything very negative to say about NCSoft. Unless they do so anonymously. Being publicly critical of ex-employers can hurt future job searches.
Sometimes pride and fact take precedence.


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Sometimes pride and fact take precedence.
Damn skippy. I've allowed both to cause me ill will and will do it again.


Be well, people of CoH.

 

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