You Sank My Battleship

I think thats for general maintenance in port, not actually getting underway and leaving port. A museum isn't going to be leaving the docks unless it's for a special event. And the boilers, you gotta light those suckers up at least a day or two in advance from a cold start.


In actual wartime sure they probably had ammo storage near the docks but no way not during peacetime, but then again it's a movie so ya let some things slide for the sake of entertainment.

I know it's easy to assume that whomever you are arguing with knows nothing about the topic, but don't do that here.

No, it was because they showed up in dramatic poses in dramatic locations all over the superstructure. Maybe you don't have an issue with 70+ year old people climbing all over the superstructure, but I do.

If they had just showed up walking on the deck, I would have been OK with it. I understand how the floating museums work. However they had to make it over the top, much like everything else in the movie.

The aliens can't just switch a hand weapon, they have to fiddle with it for 3 minutes making lots of transformer noises and it has to shift around. If anyone made a weapon system that inept, they would deserve to lose any and all wars.

Then when the excrement hits the ventilator the aliens send in the killer yo-yos instead of the appreciably more sensible and efficient lodging explosives. Had they just done that everyone on the destroyer would have been shark bait, and they wouldn't have lost.

Oh, and then there's the alien ships with they oh so efficient method of transport- flopping across the surface of the water. Yeah, that's brilliant. Why didn't we ever think of that? (well maybe since it's an asinine way of wasting energy).

Those are certainly valid as well. The fact that there was ammo belts present for the mounted machineguns was particularly over the top.

Then you had the people trekking the shell across the ship. That's wasn't all young guys, and they didn't really go with any 80-90s era veterans of the ship. 70+ year old people are not likely to be all too good at hefting that much weight (heck we can say 60+ if we assume Vietnam era as well, but still that's pretty old for that kind of labor).

How about whipping the ship around on an anchor? Don't think physics works that way.

Look, I could attempt to think back and pick apart every stupid part of that movie, but honestly it's just not worth my time. I attempted to back off and agree to disagree. You didn't want that. Look, IMO the movie was a horrendous bowser. You liked it(even if you can help pick it apart). As they say YMMV. We're no more likely to agree here apparently than we are as to whether chocolate or vanilla is better.

The obvious answer is the swirl is better.

If I was "assuming" I wouldn't bother to ask you for clarification. I would simply dismiss you out of hand.

The ship is 70+ years old. The crew wasn't. In my opinion those men were in their 50's and 60's. Even if some were, my own father worked full time doing maintenance until his heart attack in his mid 70's. Not all seniors are doddering old men that can barely move.

Edit: No I take that back. Some of them had to be in their early 70's

Okay let's look at the timeline of that scene. First the main characters had to get onboard the ship and walk to the fo'c'sle. That entails crossing the Quarterdeck where whoever in charge can call all hands to the fo'c'sle on the intercom. That's going to take the main characters about 15 minutes to accomplish on a battleship. That gives the crew that much time to gather. Some of the crew will be there already, some will be at various stations in the superstructure including the Bridge. Those are the ones we see making those "dramatic" poses. The main characters talk for another 10 minutes or more an the rest of the crew show up walking along the main deck. They didn't all have to climb up, over, and down the superstructure

Agreed 100%

Again agreed 100%

Yeah that had me calling BS as well

No argument there either.

The only thing we seem to disagree on is one scene. That doesn't mean anything. Neither of us is wrong for liking or disliking it. It is possible to express our opinions about what we think went on off camera to explain the scene without having the world come to an end.

Does it have bacon sprinkles? Cuz that would be awesome.

No, that makes the chocolate impure. Bah.

Considering the survival rate for crewmen who were involved in the combat, it surely was not a recruitment video (unless we're starting a Kamikaze corps). .

A total screw up joins the Navy, gets to play soccer with Rhianna, gets engaged to the Admiral's Daughter, and Saves The World! How is that not a recruitment movie?!

As far as casualties go, I don't imagine anyone who might be thinking of joining the Navy really thinks they'll go up against aliens during their time in the service.

Well now, a person can hope can they not?

Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.

Anyone who believes that any of the rest of that is likely will probably be expecting the alien attack as well.

That's more a last resort sort of thing, and outside of bubble, they really had no idea what was going on inside it.

There was the destruction on the island, but not enough to warrant, NUKE the island!

They had a state completely cut off from the outside world, and iirc the barrier was a fair number of miles out. I fully admit that it depends on how far the barrier was from the islands, but as long as it was over 10 miles a tomahawk nuke would not have been overly excessive (as in, would be far enough to have any significant effect on the island).

Though you are correct, the outside world was out of the loop on severity, so I suppose they would not authorize such.

Like it's his fault the movie wasn't written around his character.

Not only that, but there is noone in the military who will go nuclear without authorization codes from the President, and the President won't go nuclear just because there's been no confirmation of hostilities. The President was probably swamped with all kinds of wild speculations and desperately seeking some kind of communication before starting a war with an obviously superior alien race.

But we'll never know because the movie didn't care about anything going on outside the shield.

That untouched aspect of the movie could have been handled a lot better.

Well the outside world did want the Admiral to send in more jets to crash into the barrier.

While I wasn't surprised to hear that suggestion, I expected them to suggest a chopper because they are a hell of a lot cheaper than a jet.

I am reminded of the scene in the episode of Futurama wherein the giant floating brains make everyone stupid(er). The governor is sending in more trains!