Is War Mace slow like TW without momentum, this is one of my only concerns. Slow activating attacks get on my nerves.
�The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."
@Mr. Magnifico
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No. Shatter is the slow attack and I think is about the same as Headsplitter (but it is oh so worth it, especially when you nail 3+ mobs).|
Originally Posted by Mr_Magnifico
Is War Mace slow like TW without momentum, this is one of my only concerns. Slow activating attacks get on my nerves.
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Clobber animates so fast it is the crazy highest DPA attack among most Scrapper sets.
Jawbreaker is pretty fast.
Crowd Control is crazy good fast. Whirling Mace is the same as the other pbaoes from the sword/axe sets.
Pick a secondary without much redraw and you're golden.
I switched to a build chaining Clobber-Jawbreak-Shatter for ST and it is fantastic.
If you are used to sets akin to MA or Ice blast, then War Mace can still "feel" slow. It really isn't that much slower, but for lack of a better way to explain it; the visceral effect of the combined animations and sound effects for War Mace is just, well, kind of "casual".
If you can stomach losing the mini-cone on shatter, you can operate with Pulverize instead with a minimal DPS hit against single targets. FWIW: My attack chain "feels" much quicker to me without shatter in the rotation.
It's not as slow moving as TW though...well TW before momentum.
Cool, I think I am going to try one out, maybe with EA, or WP
�The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."
@Mr. Magnifico
Im wanting to do either wm/inv or wm/sd. Absolutely has to have fly though.
My WM/SD scrapper is a beast! One of the strongest feeling toons I've rolled and really pointed out how far down the totem Blasters have slid.
However, he stalled out at 30 when I realized I just really really can't stand click mez protection.
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uhm hellooo the shovel is more than awsome i just wish i could change its color
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Originally Posted by VKhaun
Echoing lack of good weapon models.
That's why I haven't rolled it yet. :P |
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Ditto. Though I only made it to 18. Bloody hell that's annoying.|
Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
However, he stalled out at 30 when I realized I just really really can't stand click mez protection.
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War Mace is awesome though.
They ALL float down here. When you're down here with us, you'll float too!
@Starflier
It's what turned me off to ninjitsu after all these years...that and /Ice is way more my style :3
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Shovel with sewer-lid (manhole cover) shield ftw!
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Originally Posted by Thorny_Devil
uhm hellooo the shovel is more than awsome i just wish i could change its color
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My wm/sd scrapper is awesome fun and does great dps. I averaged out around low 2:50s with mine for pylon runs. I'm actually thinking it could be better.
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I haven't seen anyone post incarnated DM/SD scrapper times since the Reactive fix ... curious what a DM/SD similarly kitted out (T4 Musc, T4 Reactive or Degen) would be doing. The issue is DM due to Soul Drain tends to have to pull fodder mobs that can stand up to a few soul drains (like Rikti Soldiers) where as WM can get away with a ton of monkeys.
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Originally Posted by TommyTrD
My wm/sd scrapper is awesome fun and does great dps. I averaged out around low 2:50s with mine for pylon runs. I'm actually thinking it could be better.
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After watching a certain comic book based movie and reading this thread I decided to make a WM. I tried WM a few years ago on a tanker and the damage was bad. I made a brute with WM and he was okay, so now I will give a scrapper a try. I just have a question, I am making my scrapper look like a Bane Spider and I was wondering if there is a redraw with WM and Mace Mastery? Do I use the same Mace? I was thinking of going EA for the defense, resist and stealth like a Bane or should I go Invul for the resist/defense?
lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
New Toons
lvl 21 - StJ/WP Stalker
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There is redraw with the Mace mastery, they do not use the same mace. Both EA and Invuln are solid choices. EA gives you significant end management and the stealth is very good. If you want to go Bane-like, EA seems the better choice.
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
I just have a question, I am making my scrapper look like a Bane Spider and I was wondering if there is a redraw with WM and Mace Mastery? Do I use the same Mace? I was thinking of going EA for the defense, resist and stealth like a Bane or should I go Invul for the resist/defense?
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Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
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That sucks about the redraw.|
Originally Posted by StratoNexus
There is redraw with the Mace mastery, they do not use the same mace. Both EA and Invuln are solid choices. EA gives you significant end management and the stealth is very good. If you want to go Bane-like, EA seems the better choice.
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If I were to make a Thorish type scrapper do you think he would be an Invul, Willpower, or Elec Armor?
lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
New Toons
lvl 21 - StJ/WP Stalker
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Mace/Invuln/Mu Cardiac Core/Ion Core/Premptive Radial/Cimeroran/|
Originally Posted by Aumakua
If I were to make a Thorish type scrapper do you think he would be an Invul, Willpower, or Elec Armor?
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I think I'd choose Destiny Incandescence for style, but Rebirth is awfully good.
Why Blasters? Empathy Sucks.
So, you want to be Mental?
What the hell? Let's buff defenders.
Tactics are for those who do not have a big enough hammer. Wisdom is knowing how big your hammer is.
I was messing around on Mids and came up with this build. Tell me whatcha think. I got soft cap S/L/E/N. I tried to get soft cap on Fire as well, But I wasn't able too. I went Agility Core for the extra defense, recharge and endurance. Going to get Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface, Ion Core Final Judgement, Ageless Core Epiphany, and Cimeroran Core Superior Ally. I could go Storm Elemental, but I do not want my mobs to get KB with hurricane.
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Bully Boy: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), HO:Nucle(50)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(3)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), HO:Nucle(37)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(17), Dct'dW-Rchg(19), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Clobber -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), HO:Nucle(13)
Level 10: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(21)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 14: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(50)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RctvArm-ResDam(46)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(21), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 20: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 22: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(27), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 24: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(25), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 26: Shatter -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(31), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 32: Crowd Control -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Mu Bolts -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 41: Ball Lightning -- Ragnrk-Knock%(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(42), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 44: Resist Energies -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(45), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Resist Elements -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(48), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Unstoppable -- TtmC'tng-ResDam/Rchg(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- ULeap-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 4: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 4: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(40)
Level 4: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 4: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(A), P'Shift-EndMod(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Set Bonus Totals:
- 22.88% Defense(Smashing)
- 22.88% Defense(Lethal)
- 6% Defense(Fire)
- 6% Defense(Cold)
- 22.88% Defense(Energy)
- 22.88% Defense(Negative)
- 6% Defense(Psionic)
- 14.44% Defense(Melee)
- 17.25% Defense(Ranged)
- 6% Defense(AoE)
- 3.6% Max End
- 55% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 55% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 9% SpeedFlying
- 205.8 HP (15.37%) HitPoints
- 9% JumpHeight
- 9% SpeedJumping
- MezResist(Immobilized) 13.75%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
- 10% (0.17 End/sec) Recovery
- 40% (2.23 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 6.3% Resistance(Fire)
- 6.3% Resistance(Cold)
- 9% SpeedRunning
- 4% XPDebtProtection
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lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
New Toons
lvl 21 - StJ/WP Stalker
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I got you there with a catalyzed Scrapper's Strike set split. I'm not sure how available the catalysts are for you, but the Scrapper set shouldn't be any more prohibitive to get than the purple sets.|
Originally Posted by Aumakua
... I got soft cap S/L/E/N. I tried to get soft cap on Fire as well, But I wasn't able too...
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You'll want to go through this power by power to optimize, I just tossed set pieces in powers for the bonuses without paying any mind to the enhancement values.
There's 1 extra slot as well, 3 if you want to under slot Pulverize to a Kinetic Combat Mule and just use Shatter in your single target chain.
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Wow thanks, it looks great! It looks cheaper than the route I was going and you were able to soft capt all defense but psi.... I like it a lot. I should be able to tank with him now. his recharge is good, but with Ageless Core Epiphany it will be great. I kept the two slot in Pulverize and slotted two Hecatomb's for the proc and 4% recover bonus for having two. The third slot is either going in health for a panacea proc or flight for the slow resist proc.
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Originally Posted by Warfarin88
I got you there with a catalyzed Scrapper's Strike set split. I'm not sure how available the catalysts are for you, but the Scrapper set shouldn't be any more prohibitive to get than the purple sets.
You'll want to go through this power by power to optimize, I just tossed set pieces in powers for the bonuses without paying any mind to the enhancement values. There's 1 extra slot as well, 3 if you want to under slot Pulverize to a Kinetic Combat Mule and just use Shatter in your single target chain. |
lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
New Toons
lvl 21 - StJ/WP Stalker
I may have to check this out; mitigation/control looks good. Thinking WM/Dark/Soul.
Apparently, I play "City of Shakespeare"
*Arc #95278-Gathering the Four Winds -3 step arc; challenging - 5 Ratings/3 Stars (still working out the kinks)
*Arc #177826-Lights, Camera, Scream! - 3 step arc, camp horror; try out in 1st person POV - 35 Ratings/4 Stars
I love my Mace/Invul scrapper and he is fun as hell. Mace is way better on Scrapper than brute or tanks IMO.
lvl 50 - Elec/WP/Mu Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - Dark/EA/Soul Mastery Stalker, lvl 50 - EM/Nin/Soul Mastery Stalker
New Toons
lvl 21 - StJ/WP Stalker
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
I love my Mace/Invul scrapper and he is fun as hell. Mace is way better on Scrapper than brute or tanks IMO.
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Hah I've been on a few iTrials with you lately. Thank you for not sucking!
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Originally Posted by Aumakua
I love my Mace/Invul scrapper and he is fun as hell. Mace is way better on Scrapper than brute or tanks IMO.
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As for Warmace, yeah, I wind up defaulting to the Fantasy Mace myself. The Carnival of Light ones could be interesting with a Carnie outfit...but yeah, a lack of decent models is a little depressing.
I played a WM/SD Scrapper and then conceptually turned her into a SS/WP Brute, but the short time I played Mace was outrageous.