A normal shapeshifter AT makes more sense than a Praetorian themed EAT, as that's a bit of dead-end story-wise - the shapeshifter AT will be more flexible.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
I'd love to see archetypes to give the villains something that isn't Arachnos in nature.
Not really interested in more.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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that only works for wolves
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Originally Posted by Lord_Kalistoh
There's no need, look:
- 1 arm for the shield - 1 arm for the blade - mouth for the 2nd blade |
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You've apparently never seen Roronoa Zoro wielding his three swords.
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Originally Posted by dugfromthearth
that only works for wolves
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
I dunno about you guys, but I'd love new ATs. As many as possible...
Pets/armor
Buff/melee
Armor/control
etc....
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If Masterminds didn't suck, they'd be the most powerful AT in the game.
Control/Armour would be interesting but also very likely to be the most boring AT in existence.
New normal ATs? Not at all.
New Epics? No interest if they aren't one of the following:
1. DE, preferably Praetorian DE
2. Rikti (even has its own Heroes and Villains!)
TW/Elec Optimization
Aside from totally new mechanic/set types, which I have no intention of getting into, I would enjoy:
Henchmen/Control
Melee/Support
Blast/Armor
Re: Control/Armor... I could see certain combinations working (Fire Control/Fiery Aura might even be kinda badass) but most of them would be sloooooooooow soloers.
@Draeth Darkstar
Virtue [Heroes, Roleplay], Freedom [Villains], Exalted [All Sides, Roleplay]
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
I would like Blast or Assault with Armor.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
Control/Defense is possibly the best representation of the Green Lantern power set I can think of. (Though a Gravity/FF Controller is already pretty close)
I'd love a shapeshifting AT, but as I understand it, we're already getting one, so... deck accomplished!
Not at all. Instead of new ATs, problems with existing ATs should be fixed.
Absolutely no new EATs with their mandatory ugly costume parts, poorly written lore and horrible performance. Why anyone would want to play an NPC from this game's unimaginative and boring enemy groups is beyond me.
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That's, what, one branch of one AT?
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Absolutely no new EATs with their mandatory ugly costume parts
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Kheldian forms|
Originally Posted by Tenzhi
That's, what, one branch of one AT?
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Widow (uncustomizable and ugly) claws
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Kheldian forms aren't mandatory.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
Kheldian forms
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Indeed. There are actually many successful Unishape built characters.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Kheldian forms aren't mandatory.
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If Masterminds didn't suck, they'd be the most powerful AT in the game.
EATs also lose power customization, in a game that's renowned for the depth of character customization it offers.
Nobody ever refers to CoH as "That game with the really good backstory, did you see what they came up for with their incarnate storyline, that was really good writing?" Performance not tied to appearance and variety of character customization has always been one of this game's unique, strong selling points. Not the crappy lore, or ATs tied to crappy lore.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
You've apparently never seen Roronoa Zoro wielding his three swords.
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He stabs someone with a broken sword blade held in his teeth
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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It's a bit less impressive if you're only wielding a bit of a sword with your mouth rather than a whole sword. Unless he *broke* said sword with his teeth. Then he gets props. |
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
He stabs someone with a broken sword blade held in his teeth
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
I'd love Praetorian EAT's, but I'd also like them to wait to have more content gold-side before something like this was implemented.
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
EATs also lose power customization, in a game that's renowned for the depth of character customization it offers.
Nobody ever refers to CoH as "That game with the really good backstory, did you see what they came up for with their incarnate storyline, that was really good writing?" Performance not tied to appearance and variety of character customization has always been one of this game's unique, strong selling points. Not the crappy lore, or ATs tied to crappy lore. |
Someone obviously doesn't play for the story, which baffles me. I've tried most of the other MMOs out there
(excluding a galaxy far away) and Paragon Studios has ALWAYS had the best writers out there, IMHO.
I'll chime in support for some new ATs. Epic and otherwise.
(De)Buff/Armor
Blast or Assault/Armor
Rikti EAT
DEE(a)T (pun intended
)The AT I've heard rumors of sounds like it would fit a concept I've had for years for a Blood of the Black
Stream character. All I need for a Coralax character is some costume pieces--Omega doesn't fit quite right.
@CrimsonOriole
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Originally Posted by LeoninProtector
Someone obviously doesn't play for the story, which baffles me. I've tried most of the other MMOs out there
(excluding a galaxy far away) and Paragon Studios has ALWAYS had the best writers out there, IMHO. |
I prefer my own stories not because they're actually better than Paragon's in some objective sense, but because they're mine. So when the one in the game starts stepping on my toes, for example by putting translucent Lore FX on my pets, I get irritated. I also have no interest in playing minor enemy grunts from someone else's fiction.
When I started playing this game, there was no power customisation. Thus, all powersets were just mechanical abilities and static visuals for me to build a character around. I've never felt *forced* to play my characters with a particular story based on their visuals.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Originally Posted by Laevateinn
I do play for story - my own, not the yawn-inducing one that's in the game.
I prefer my own stories not because they're actually better than Paragon's in some objective sense, but because they're mine. So when the one in the game starts stepping on my toes, for example by putting translucent Lore FX on my pets, I get irritated. I also have no interest in playing minor enemy grunts from someone else's fiction. |
however, at some point you have to come down to Earth and realize that you are not playing your own game.
You are playing a game written and developed by someone else. It is that way with ANY game you play, unless
it is a table-top...even then you're running into the same issues. Your character exists in another person's universe.
It is not and never will be YOUR universe, so anything that "steps on your toes" needs to be gotten over.
Period.
@CrimsonOriole
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If Masterminds didn't suck, they'd be the most powerful AT in the game.