Heads up: NCsoft's pushing Pando Media Booster
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Posted on: 2012-04-11 09:40 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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None of those applications are designed to share the contents of your filesystem.
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Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Guess how much liability Pando or NCSoft have if they release a buggy update of City of Heroes / NCSoft Launcher that uploads all your banking information to the wild?
Guess how much liability Mozilla Foundation/Corporation has if they release a buggy update of Mozilla Firefox that uploads all your banking information to the wild? Guess how much liability Adobe has if they release a buggy update of Flash Player that uploads all your banking information to the wild? Guess how much liability Oracle has if they release a buggy update the Java Virtual Machine that uploads all your banking information to the wild? Got a point beyond FUD? |
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And if you think that makes a whit of difference...
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Originally Posted by Brillig
None of those applications are designed to share the contents of your filesystem.
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About the same amount that Adobe has when Flash or Acrobat have vulnerabilities used in a zero-day exploit that uploads a million people's banking information into the wild, which is something that has happened before several times.|
Originally Posted by Brillig
This is absolutely true that at the current time, Pando doesn't do anything bad.
However, guess how much liability Pando or NCSoft have if they release a buggy update of PMB that uploads all your banking information to the wild? |
Pando appears to have less potential for accidental upload as torrent clients do. Torrent clients are designed to be able to initiate seeding, but Pando is explicitly designed not to do that, because the file node generation process is handled centrally. Most torrent clients have to be able to respond to my request to seed a file and allow it to be uploaded, but Pando doesn't seem to have that capability, so it can't be accidentally triggered either.
That's not to say that Pando is perfectly safe, but then again the City of Heroes game client is not 100% safe either.
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Makes me glad I never considered playing another game.
Since this pando (I thought it was a thread about Pandas at first) thing is only active while downloading a new patch or a fresh install - and I'm guessing faster - other than my initial distrust and loathing of anything new, I don't see it as that big of a deal.
But - I am not at all typical, nor am I savvy about all the evils of the internet.
That bit about Adobe that Arcanaville mentioned - I'd not heard that. Good thing I don't keep banking records on my computer.
Personally, I think they (CoH) should leave well enough alone. The Launcher seems to work just fine. It's not broken, why fix it?
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And yet, they regularly do.|
Originally Posted by Brillig
None of those applications are designed to share the contents of your filesystem.
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(technically, the last one was because of Apple's JVM... but the same vulnerability existed in Oracle's before it... and there's countless other remote code injection attacks against all three)
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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That's alright, so far my brain can't decide whether I'm reading Panda or Pedo atm...but the tummy's pretty sure I'm hungry! ^.^
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Originally Posted by Ukaserex
Makes me glad I never considered playing another game.
Since this pando (I thought it was a thread about Pandas at first) thing is only active while downloading a new patch or a fresh install - and I'm guessing faster - other than my initial distrust and loathing of anything new, I don't see it as that big of a deal. But - I am not at all typical, nor am I savvy about all the evils of the internet. That bit about Adobe that Arcanaville mentioned - I'd not heard that. Good thing I don't keep banking records on my computer. Personally, I think they (CoH) should leave well enough alone. The Launcher seems to work just fine. It's not broken, why fix it? |
Thanks for this thread. It's been quite a while since I tried Aion, and its F2P isn't bad. Looks like they've seriously fixed leveling speed, too.
Had absolutely no issue with Pando attempting to run any time other than when I was actively downloading the game. Absolutely no traffic at any other time, with default settings.
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Guess how much liability they have if their software causes my computer to animate and attack me with an axe. Yeah, I can come up with ridiculous questions, too. |
Originally Posted by Brillig
This is absolutely true that at the current time, Pando doesn't do anything bad.
However, guess how much liability Pando or NCSoft have if they release a buggy update of PMB that uploads all your banking information to the wild? |
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I'm pretty sure both nation states and criminal organizations would be all over malware that did that. |
Originally Posted by Ironblade
Guess how much liability they have if their software causes my computer to animate and attack me with an axe. Yeah, I can come up with ridiculous questions, too.
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Beginning at 12 p.m. PDT (2 p.m. CDT / 3 p.m. EDT), the NC Launcher will not prompt players to install Pando Media Booster in order to download Aion: Ascension™. Players can now install and update the game directly through the NC Launcher. If you haven't tried Aion: Ascension, now's the perfect time to play--Truly Free™!
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Hopefully NCsoft got the message. They day a P2P program becomes REQUIRED for a paid subscription, is the day I will cancel my account and demand a refund.
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Originally Posted by Heal_n_Touch
They day a P2P program becomes REQUIRED for a paid subscription, is the day I will cancel my account and demand a refund.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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I can't answer for Heal_n_Touch, but from a personal standpoint:|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
Why?
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I think being billed for the game should include a direct download from the company. I also think that the company shouldn't use my bandwidth cap to pay for services that they should be providing itself as a part of my subscription money. In effect by using a mandatory P2P service, they would be double billing me.
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It's only "double billing" to you because your internet sucks. It doesn't cost the majority of folks any more money than it did pre-Pando.|
Originally Posted by Snow Globe
I can't answer for Heal_n_Touch, but from a personal standpoint:
I think being billed for the game should include a direct download from the company. I also think that the company shouldn't use my bandwidth cap to pay for services that they should be providing itself as a part of my subscription money. In effect by using a mandatory P2P service, they would be double billing me. |
If the company tells you up front that they're using a third-party service for downloading/patching, they've done what's required. Whether you pay for the game from then on is up to you.
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However, guess how much liability Pando or NCSoft have if they release a buggy update of PMB that uploads all your banking information to the wild?
Guess how much liability Mozilla Foundation/Corporation has if they release a buggy update of Mozilla Firefox that uploads all your banking information to the wild?
Guess how much liability Adobe has if they release a buggy update of Flash Player that uploads all your banking information to the wild?
Guess how much liability Oracle has if they release a buggy update the Java Virtual Machine that uploads all your banking information to the wild?
Got a point beyond FUD?
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