Upgrade Diabolique look with her DD iTrial new costume
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Angelxman81,
Posted on: 2012-04-06 05:54 in Suggestions and Ideas
Didn't Diabolique have the same Numina Recolor look in First Ward?
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Yes, and I want her to look like she does in her iTrial all the time.
Her old Numina recolored costume is too...cheap and old.
That costume is too awesome to waste it just for a iTrial...
I want her to look like this when we meet her in DA and First ward too:
No thanks.
Diabolique in the DA arcs is first introduced as a Numina recolor. Then after you defeat her, Mot grants her power - changing her costume, and making her far larger.
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I dont get why some of you like to get stucked in the past with those 2004 NPCs...
She should had looked like that since the begining with First Ward.
Then MoT can make her more powerful and bigger like the rest of iTrials AVs.
Mother Mayhem, Nightstar wears same outfits in the Praetorian zones and the iTrials, I dont get why this should be different and we have to stand in front of those low-res-ugly NPCs when we can have them with those awesome new designs.
Looks like a complete waste to me.
I agree! give her the upgraded look!
By the way, this doesn't mean I care for the look, but I do think it's better than the other.
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I think they intentionally kept her old outfit specifically so that her empowering by Mot had a clear visual indicator... some people may not see mission text due to not being the team leader, and a lot of people skim the text anyway.
If she had her new look already and just got bigger "whoopee" but by having a dramatic change of costume it has real visual weight.
(Could they have made her a new low-powered costume, plus a Super Mode costume? Sure. But unless it was just cobbled together from existing parts (which none of the other Praetor's costumes have been) then why bother wasting the time/resources if she's just going to change it 10 minutes later.)
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I know they kept the old costume to show her upgrade but her old costume is so damn lame and the new one so awesome I think is a waste!
I mean being huge is enough upgrade, did you guys ever seen Power Rangers?
I'd guess this will be a no. Like people have said, there's a story reason for the this, besides devs don't upgrade old npc's they kill them off and bring hipper and cooler looking npc's, see Sister Psyche/Penny.
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I think her new "awesome" costume in Dark Astoria is the ugliest, most ridiculous thing I've seen in this game since Vivacious Verandi, and I would hate for one of the last remaining non-scantily-clad females in this game to be reduced to a metal bikini. And I especially don't want an otherwise pretty character to get horrible make-up and a campfire on her head.|
Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I think she should be sporting her new AWESOME look when we meet her at DA and First Ward arcs.
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"Old stuff is old" has never been a convincing argument in my book, and a basic costume designed well is often better than an overly-complex, shader-laiden extravagance. There's a reason Ghost Widow's costume remains one of the game's most popular designs. I personally happen to like Diabolique's "Numina" costume more than the costumes of pretty much any of the other Praetorians, and indeed more than most of the Freedom Phalanx. Well, maybe aside from BABs/Marauder, but that's a personal thing.
Between new Penny and new Diabolique, I'm starting to question the tastes of whoever's in charge of the game's art direction. I sincerely hope that's not David, since I actually like the guy and I'd hate to come down on him like this.
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Meh, I'd much rather see NPCs we see a lot of (CIVILIANS! Damn you, you hideous pixely crimes!!) need the love a lot more. And no, I like the transition from the old look to the Incarnate look. Numina and Di get away with it more, due to being mostly see-through.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I dont get why some of you like to get stucked in the past with those 2004 NPCs...
She should had looked like that since the begining with First Ward. Then MoT can make her more powerful and bigger like the rest of iTrials AVs. Mother Mayhem, Nightstar wears same outfits in the Praetorian zones and the iTrials, I dont get why this should be different and we have to stand in front of those low-res-ugly NPCs when we can have them with those awesome new designs. Looks like a complete waste to me. |
Luminary, Castle, Valkyrie, Mynx, the entirety of the civilian population....THOSE need revamps far more than a mostly see-through character.
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Granted, I could see updating her a little bit, but not as far over the top as Diabolique is, because there's a specific reason for the changeover.
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Originally Posted by Angelxman81
I know they kept the old costume to show her upgrade but her old costume is so damn lame and the new one so awesome I think is a waste!
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the head piece remindes me of Maleficent 
but thats just me.... i like it a lot. and the Fire is cool too.
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Yes, this. She should keep a simpler look prior to Mot-empowerment. While I wouldn't necessarily mind an update to the old look, as a means of differentiating her further from Numina, I don't think such an update ought to be so extreme; maybe just take what she has now and make it more revealing and imposing, in the ancient tradition of evil sorceresses everywhere. Add some spiky chained shoulderpads and a spiky-looking belt, and swap out the pants and boots for a pair of thigh-high stilettos and a panty bottom, kind of like the bottom half of Mother Mayhem, but keep the overall look the same - this is still Tammy Arcanus, after all, and keeping her costume recognizable as "evil version of Numina" is IMO a good thing.
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No thanks.
Diabolique in the DA arcs is first introduced as a Numina recolor. Then after you defeat her, Mot grants her power - changing her costume, and making her far larger. |
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I dont like the old costume for her, its too old and basic.
I think she should be sporting her new AWESOME look when we meet her at DA and First Ward arcs.
Mother Mayhem, Nightstar, Neuron... All of them have the same new look in the game.
This said, I also think Black Swan should get a unique cool costume too.