Issue 22: Death Incarnate - [TEST] - Build 2230.201203280247.1
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Enhancements
Reduced the procs per minute on the Store version of Performance Shifter: Chance for +End from 3 to 1.5 to be consistent with the Invention Origin version
Ummm, does this mean I can get all my points back that I spent on the in-store one since I spent, well "real" money on it because it had a better proc chance? Are you going to change all store bought procs because then I also want my points back on my other purchases as well.
Enhancements
Reduced the procs per minute on the Store version of Performance Shifter: Chance for +End from 3 to 1.5 to be consistent with the Invention Origin version Ummm, does this mean I can get all my points back that I spent on the in-store one since I spent, well "real" money on it because it had a better proc chance? Are you going to change all store bought procs because then I also want my points back on my other purchases as well. |
Reduced the procs per minute on the Store version of Performance Shifter: Chance for +End from 3 to 1.5 to be consistent with the Invention Origin version. |
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i believe synapse acknowledged this was broken way back when performance shifters were first added to the paragon market, and he stated it would be fixed in a future patch, so spending points on it when it was knowingly broken then asking for a refund is kind of a bad move on your part
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DA badges fixed? About time..sick of having to solo those missions to get the badges. Also sick on the support GMs telling me that it was all WAI, in regard to having to drop teams for the badges. Does this include ones for buddy cop and incarnate rival?
Ummm, does this mean I can get all my points back that I spent on the in-store one since I spent, well "real" money on it because it had a better proc chance? Are you going to change all store bought procs because then I also want my points back on my other purchases as well.
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1.5PPM is still slightly higher than the crafted proc in Stamina (would be 1.2PPM to be identical in that power), so it doesn't break the reasonable assumption that the one you bought would be anything different than that.
No, because the description on the store item doesn't say what the proc rate is.
1.5PPM is still slightly higher than the crafted proc in Stamina (would be 1.2PPM to be identical in that power), so it doesn't break the reasonable assumption that the one you bought would be anything different than that. |
Again, understand, I am not crying/whining about this, but I know several other people that noticed the difference and did the same thing. The proc on decimation hasnt been changed so why is this one and is there any compensation offered to those of us that bought something (as advertised) and then are told they are changing it.
When you buy it it says it will trigger roughly 3 times per minute. Right there in the description. I bought the proc as it was on sale, slotted it, noticed the difference and read the description. Since it proc'ed more than the one I had already slotted, i bought several more while they were on sale and swapped out the in-game proc for the store bought proc.
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You don't see the 3PPM until after you buy it and claim it in your inbox.
Way to read what he said Code. He got the PS IO, noticed teh description THEN got more. Given that the decimation proc isnt changed..it is a fair assumption to NOT wonder about this one (without seeing forum thread).
In that situation..I think it IS unfair not to offer some kind of payback. Of course..it is hard to actually prove a person bought a stack without hearing about Syn's post..
I understand perfectly well what he's saying. Just because you look at the enhancement after buying it and see that it's 3PPM, you shouldn't assume that it's anything other than a typo.
My point is the only valid argument for a refund would be if it were actually advertised as such before the sale. But it's not, it's just advertised as "Performance Shifter: Chance for +End". So the reasonable assumption is that it's supposed to function like the existing enhancements called that.
It's like ordering a 3MB connection from your ISP, then testing it and finding out that the cap isn't working and you can actually download at 30MB speeds. When they fix it and limit you to what you're paying for, do you demand a refund for you and all the friends you told to order the same plan?
(I went with that instead of my original analogy of finding cash in a wallet, then buying 100 more and getting mad when they don't all have the extra cash. I changed it because we're not talking about actual physical property here, so the same rules don't apply).
Caveat Emptor. The game is not about pay to win, you pay for convenience, not power.
Imagine people wanting refunds for powersets when some detail is changed. It's just not going to happen.
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Inner Inspiration: Fixed a bug that caused the 30 minute lockout period of Inner Inspiration to track in-game time. Instead it now correctly uses in or out of game time.
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Toggle Powers no longer drop after having been logged out for 15 minutes or more. |
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
In that situation..I think it IS unfair not to offer some kind of payback. Of course..it is hard to actually prove a person bought a stack without hearing about Syn's post..
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Believe me, I think it'd be awesome if they did. Unfortunately, I just don't think they can do so safely. It will make them look like buttheads to some people, but probably to less people than doing it inconsistently in the future. Because, let's face it, there's no way they'll be able to offer refunds for everything they change.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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You're still getting what you paid for. You paid for a Performance Shifter: Chance for +END. When you saw the PPM was 3, you came to one of two conclusions.
1) Paragon is dumb lololol TIME TO BUY UP.
2) This is an oversight.
In the end, even with the IO being, and it deserved to be, 'nerfed' (truthfully fixed), you STILL got what you originally paid for.
" Performance Shifter: Chance for +END".
If anything, I'd be wary of the friends you told to buy them up since they were three times the power of the original version and not coming to the obvious conclusion it was an oversight, which Synapse confirmed ASAP when it became known.
And blame the beta testers not speaking up about it ;P
At the end of the day; refunds would be nice, but in the end, you SPECIFICALLY paid for what you got. If you paid for the 3 PPM, which you had NO idea of knowing that before getting the enhancement in your tray, that means you either bought one, say it, and went "WOAH THAT'S INSANELY BROKEN", and then I immediately respond with "You should have known better., OR you heard from a friend, and I say "You should have known better", OR you saw it on the forum, which I say "You saw Synapse's warning."
Oh well. You got what you paid for.
Team-Up Teleporter * * * * Players will now be properly teleported to the contact from inside a mission map or on another task force when starting a task force via the Team-up Teleporter. |
Am I reading this wrong, is this a typo, or are we entering the Twilight Zone?
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Not to sound like I am whining about it, i get it I bought it, but I never saw anything to that point. How is that my fault? I saw the proc on the store, saw that it was beta tested, and it went live so I bought it. Based on its performance as advertised. Now they are changing that performance and if it is the same as in game why would I have bought it?
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Wait... you mean I'll be able to just log in with all my toggles already on from the last time I played?
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WOW!!! Awsome. So when I log Average Bob back in his faithfull German Shepard will still be by his side?
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It just seems so foreign to what I expect and/or am used to.
It feels somewhat like seeing a ghost or some bit of magic... where your brain just does a flip and refuses to fully grasp what it is being told.
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