Crab Spider build challenge - with prize!
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Ars Valde,
Posted on: 2012-03-29 03:17 in Build Workshop
the DPS given by the proc will be more than the ones you loose in bayonet as the proc can go off when casting the spiderlings too
you lose 1,4% res which nomally wont help you surviving when the wrost takes place 
on the other hand you get 846 HP heal every 100 sec instead of 542 HP every 116 sec
Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3
I would have to play one to enter this. I took the build threw out the rules and come up with something I would hope offers better pet survivability.
If you ran out of endurance, any pets alive would start being targeted. Also when it comes to keeping AoEs off of pets how difficult can that be at times? Getting pets out or not having them around is costly one way or another, add that to the total eps of the build and you could have a problem. Sure you can insp but then also if you can direct aggro onto you alone even in an end crisis you can use other insps so I would drop Omega for a taunt. Some of the slotting would look the same but I would change some of it for DPS sake.
Your def may still be 40% def but with say a Diamagnetic you can tohit debuff 5% also with you having the insp tray you could always pop a luck, speaking of which, with aggro drawn in your direction rather than the pets despite an end crisis 1 luck on you is better than lucks all round.
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Kin Combat are an excellent candidate for boosters. +5 the 4 set and your damage will be in ED cap range. Also, If you +5 TT:Maneuvers you can ditch the generic 50 IO and throw that slot in to Health for the numina proc. Wouldn't hurt to +5 Call Reinforcements either as their damage is a bit low on that build.
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Con's Kinetic Combat in Bayonet = less DPS Lack of Numina = less endurance |
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I had planned on +5ing the Pet set, didn't think about the Kinetic Combats.|
Originally Posted by blueruckus
Kin Combat are an excellent candidate for boosters. +5 the 4 set and your damage will be in ED cap range. Also, If you +5 TT:Maneuvers you can ditch the generic 50 IO and throw that slot in to Health for the numina proc. Wouldn't hurt to +5 Call Reinforcements either as their damage is a bit low on that build.
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I will have a look into that. Thank you again!
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"
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just didnt do that as you mentioned not to boost the set IOs
EDIT: And yes i hate when the rules are changed every half day as it costs a while getting good build
Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3
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I try not to change them, but for the sets I would +5 I hadn't though about using <50 sets so it slipped my mind.|
Originally Posted by vernichterhelge
just didnt do that as you mentioned not to boost the set IOs
EDIT: And yes i hate when the rules are changed every half day as it costs a while getting good build |
I would rather not have the builds relying on it though.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"
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Meh, like I've said a thousand times the final version I provided you with had a 2:1 recovery/usage ratio so it meets the standard of "end sustainable" that you set. The ST chain being sustainable was under "extras" wasn't it? I'm still not convinced that it'd be entirely unsustainable. Worst case scenario, you'd have to make the +end temporary power for single target fights (people even do this for pylon challenges already) and you could still run Barrier for your pets. You already said you had boosters so I didn't need to worry about the extra IO in Hasten, and you'd only need +2's, not +5's for your defense toggles on my build. You also already said you could live without Omega Maneuver. Kind of sending mixed signals here and I am disappointed that I chose to participate in your contest now since it doesn't seem like it is being run fairly at all. I have met all the conditions you set and you're still keeping it going which seems very underhanded to me.
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I have to say I kind of see his point.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Meh, like I've said a thousand times the final version I provided you with had a 2:1 recovery/usage ratio so it meets the standard of "end sustainable" that you set. The ST chain being sustainable was under "extras" wasn't it? I'm still not convinced that it'd be entirely unsustainable. Worst case scenario, you'd have to make the +end temporary power for single target fights (people even do this for pylon challenges already) and you could still run Barrier for your pets. You already said you had boosters so I didn't need to worry about the extra IO in Hasten, and you'd only need +2's, not +5's for your defense toggles on my build. You also already said you could live without Omega Maneuver. Kind of sending mixed signals here and I am disappointed that I chose to participate in your contest now since it doesn't seem like it is being run fairly at all. I have met all the conditions you set and you're still keeping it going which seems very underhanded to me.
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Originally Posted by Granite Agent
I have to say I kind of see his point.
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I have said so a few times. I am just not declaring him the winner until the deadline and I can go through it all again.
I don't mean to be unfair in any way, I will stand by what I first said in regards to picking a winner, even if I don't use the build because I really appreciate what people have done so far.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"
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when i saw it right most of his builds were compromises between what the OP wanted and a build he made for his own crap.
than he started to discuss to get the goals changed so that they could meet his build:
i.e. swapping one/both assaults out so that he reached softcap and perma pets (its easy to rech that when you can slot 5 LotG +rech but with less its a challange) at least his last build lacks of TT leadership which will boost tohit for scrab and pest not like hover only for the scrab
just my 2cents
PS: i read the whole thread while it was written but had no need to comment it until now
PPS: as i see (looked all his builds) is each build missing something more or less important for winning the challange
Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3
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That is how I see it at the moment, there have been some good builds, but each used some kind of compromise that I am ok with, but doesn't quite do what I first hoped for.|
Originally Posted by vernichterhelge
when i saw it right most of his builds were compromises between what the OP wanted and a build he made for his own crap.
than he started to discuss to get the goals changed so that they could meet his build: i.e. swapping one/both assaults out so that he reached softcap and perma pets (its easy to rech that when you can slot 5 LotG +rech but with less its a challange) at least his last build lacks of TT leadership which will boost tohit for scrab and pest not like hover only for the scrab just my 2cents PS: i read the whole thread while it was written but had no need to comment it until now PPS: as i see (looked all his builds) is each build missing something more or less important for winning the challange |
But I promise THB (And others) that I will revisit all the builds next weekend (I think I might keep my nose out of the thread during the week) and if the criteria are met then someone will get something.
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Originally Posted by Aggelakis
PrincessDarkstar: "RAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH SOMEONE IS *WRONG* ON THE INTERNET!"
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What? My own crap? I don't play VEAT's, lol. I made builds contingent upon the criteria presented to me, just like when I won Zwillinger's build contest (that might be your first hint that I know what I'm doing.)|
Originally Posted by vernichterhelge
when i saw it right most of his builds were compromises between what the OP wanted and a build he made for his own crap.
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than he started to discuss to get the goals changed so that they could meet his build: i.e. swapping one/both assaults out so that he reached softcap and perma pets (its easy to rech that when you can slot 5 LotG +rech but with less its a challange) |
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| at least his last build lacks of TT leadership which will boost tohit for scrab and pest not like hover only for the scrab |
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| PPS: as i see (looked all his builds) is each build missing something more or less important for winning the challange |
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
Stop replying to fast lol
 [*]Perma-Hasten close enough to 'wiggle' |
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Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar
I can +5 the IO's in Hasten
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| [*]Perma-Serum tick[*]All 3 pets perma tick[*]45% defence to all positions (Can include Barrier*) tick |
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| *If the defence is reached without Barrier I will double the prize |
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| [*]Both pet resist uniques and both pet defence uniques tick[*]General good slotting for everything aside from Shatter Armor, which is just a filler power so can be swapped if necessary, or used as a mule could do with more endrdx on Heavy Burst so 98% there |
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| [*]95% chance to hit +3's with all powers including Web Envelope (Which will accept minimal slotting as it is just for the -fly) tick [*]Achilles' Heel procs in Single Shot, Burst and Heavy Burst tick[*]Catalysed ATIO proc in Heavy Burst (The other parts of the set can be elsewhere but with also needing an Achilles' Heel proc it is most likely best to use 5 parts here) tick[*]Muscalature Alpha (This is what makes the build really hard) tick[*]Gapless single target attack chain of Bayonet>Single Shot>Burst>Single Shot tick or close enough[*]'Decent' endurance, so no neglecting stamina not sure to be honest[/list] |
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- Unless you consider a temp that takes 2 seconds to make or Ageless.
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| So basically I am forgiving the loss of Omega Maneuver |
This would be like if when I ran my Pylon challenge a few months ago (and gave away 2 billion inf.) and after the Pylon was downed I said, "Hey guys, that was great, but I'm not going to declare anyone the winner because someone else probably could've done it a little faster."
your build in post 17 lacks the 4points KBprot (read the OPs list in post 1)
on the other hand the blaster (PPP pet is not perma: perma menas recharge before casted new including casting time)
not to mention that hovering around isnt good for placing bayonet which wanted to OP in his attackchain
Helge corr lvl 50 rad/cold
Helge2 corr lvl 50 ice/rad
Techbothelge MM lvl 50 robo/dark
Helge Mauz def lvl 50 emp/ele
illuhelge troller lvl 50 illu/rad
Wiederbelebter helge nk lvl 50 bs/reg
Maennerschreack nightwidow lvl 44
Quantenjaeger ws lvl 3
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You realize that the KB specification wasn't in the OP at the time my build was posted right? Sly edits ftw, check the thread. Hovering in melee range works fine. I do it all the time. Swapping around some enhancement values would rectify the whatever tiny amount of discrepancy (talk about nitpicking) you're seeing on the recharge.
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Originally Posted by vernichterhelge
your build in post 17 lacks the 4points KBprot (read the OPs list in post 1)
on the other hand the blaster (PPP pet is not perma: perma menas recharge before casted new including casting time) not to mention that hovering around isnt good for placing bayonet which wanted to OP in his attackchain |
Nothing in the OP ever said the contest was over the instant someone submitted a build that met all of her criteria. You declared yourself the winner a little early. There's at least two builds in this thread that met all of her original criteria, and frankly vernichterhelge's is better than yours.
That said, the constantly evolving criteria for victory are incredibly lame and the reason I didn't enter. Next time have a better idea of what you want before you start a contest, Darkstar.
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Well 'better' is a matter of opinion, I don't have Mids open right now but was his build one that went for 40% positional defense? I know the extra utility is useful for pets and I'm not saying barrier would be a bad choice, but the standard I use for my personal builds is to never be beholden to any specific Destiny power since it's often useful to be able to switch between them... Flexibility is good. Not to say that the other build was bad at all. |
Originally Posted by Pasiphae
Nothing in the OP ever said the contest was over the instant someone submitted a build that met all of her criteria. You declared yourself the winner a little early. There's at least two builds in this thread that met all of her original criteria, and frankly vernichterhelge's is better than yours.
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I declared myself the winner because I met the standard that the OP set and acknowledged that already before anyone else did. It's not really fair to promise a certain prize for meeting certain goals if you're not going to use a first come first serve approach, unless you plan on giving the promised prize to everyone who meets the goals.
The first entries start from scratch, the second and third could be another set of eyes just taking the first which did most the work and making it better. The brain concentrates best on a job for only so long, a new set of eyes may easily come up with something missed. I find things a little bit unfair in ways. Taking the final build, discount how much of it looks the same as a previous but bear in mind that slots within a set can change. Then reward people appropriately for each completely new change worth adopting. I could take anyones build which is 95% of the work done, do 5% and go tada!
He will honor his words; he will definitely carry out his actions. What he promises he will fulfill. He does not care about his bodily self, putting his life and death aside to come forward for another's troubled besiegement. He does not boast about his ability, or shamelessly extol his own virtues. - Sima Qian.
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So you're agreeing with me that first come first serve is the most fair approach?
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Originally Posted by New Dawn
The first entries start from scratch, the second and third could be another set of eyes just taking the first which did most the work and making it better. The brain concentrates best on a job for only so long, a new set of eyes may easily come up with something missed. I find things a little bit unfair in ways. Taking the final build, discount how much of it looks the same as a previous but bear in mind that slots within a set can change. Then reward people appropriately for each completely new change worth adopting. I could take anyones build which is 95% of the work done, do 5% and go tada!
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I wouldn't agree that first come first serve is the best approach, I am planning on putting the finishing touches for my entry on this afternoon because I've had tons of meetings and work towards my PhD this week, which is why I haven't made a submission yet. I will not be reviewing any of the builds before I make mine as a lot of people don't know what they are doing even if a redname randomly pulled their name out of a hat for a previous build contest...
jk THB, and props on your build for that contest which would have been my second pic, maybe third...
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Originally Posted by Beelzy
I wouldn't agree that first come first serve is the best approach, I am planning on putting the finishing touches for my entry on this afternoon because I've had tons of meetings and work towards my PhD this week, which is why I haven't made a submission yet. I will not be reviewing any of the builds before I make mine as a lot of people don't know what they are doing even if a redname randomly pulled their name out of a hat for a previous build contest...
jk THB, and props on your build for that contest which would have been my second pic, maybe third... |
Heh. It's all good. I'm pretty sure that Z actually looked at the builds though, to be fair. I wouldn't have picked mine either honestly, not that it was bad at all, but there was one that I liked more. I plan on jumping on U Stream one of these days to ask Z how the build is treating him, see what kind of response I get.
As for first come, first serve: I just feel that this contest was set up very poorly. If you set certain requirements that must be met to meet X prize and you only want to select one winner, first come first serve is the only logical way to distribute the winnings. If you are willing to concede that all conditions have been met on one submission but continue to accept submissions after that point, logic dictates that you will be granting the originally stated prize to everyone who met the criteria to redeem it during the span of time before the deadline.
It is my understanding that the OP does not intend on awarding the originally promised prize to everyone who met the conditions they set when starting the contest during the span of time allotted, and so I feel there is a certain lack of integrity inherent in this competition.
Not to mention changing the rules midway through, which might as well be the text book definition of underhanded. I already had someone accuse me of not meeting a standard that was set after I made my submission. I blame the OP for their nonchalant attitude and blatant disrespect for the time people spent contributing to a contest they created... It has lead to being essentially accused of incompetence due to changing rules as the contest progresses, and on top of that after I already made a submission that met all required criteria for the prize offered, plus the bonus prizes.
By the way, Princess: I'm not offering humility anymore:
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Well, I believe I have met all the required criteria in the OP, plus the bonus criteria of a sustainable single target attack chain and softcapped defense without Barrier. I know you didn't expect this to be able to happen, and I am nice so I will accept the doubled infamy (500 doubled since I softcapped without Barrier) and since the attack chain is endurance sustainable I will accept only one of the 3 earned purple sets out of humility.
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Due to your recent actions I do not feel that you are deserving of my humility and so I would no longer like to wave my claiming of the other two fairly earned purple sets on top of what I stated in the quoted post and what you promised as a reward. If you can change your rules after I've already won your contest, I can change my claim to align with the criteria you originally presented.
Alright, here is my entry and it has everything you want. It has solid defense, 45+ in range and melee, and close to that in AoE and extra defense from Vorpal. It has all your permas (provided you use Ageless Core epiphany) (I would also suggest buying your Call to Arms from the Paragon Market as it will give you a little more recharge). It has all the procs you asked for, and KB 12 protection. It is an all around build with the powers you want and slotting so that they are all effective. Good endurance manageability becomes even better thanks to Ageless Core. And you have that ST attack chain that you asked for.
This may not be the first build to meet your requirements, but I would contest that it is the best. It gets you what you need, what you want, and it does it in style. I feel that I have met all your requirements, and exceeded them. I have offered a build that is better than the competition, and I will wait quietly until next weekend until your final decision.
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Second Gunman: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot
- (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (7) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Recharge
- (7) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Accuracy/Damage
- (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (3) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (9) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (5) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (17) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge
- (17) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (19) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
- (19) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (13) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff
- (43) Achilles' Heel - Defense Debuff/Recharge
- (46) Superior Dominion of Arachnos - Recharge/Chance for -Dmg and Terrorize
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (45) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (36) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
- (21) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
- (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
- (33) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (33) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (34) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (25) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (27) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (27) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
- (29) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (29) Aegis - Resistance
- (31) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
- (50) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (31) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (31) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
- (36) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
- (45) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
- (46) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown
- (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up
- (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage
- (37) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Endurance
- (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (39) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus
- (A) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus
- (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
- (46) Soulbound Allegiance - Accuracy/Recharge
- (A) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Recharge
- (42) Enfeebled Operation - Endurance/Immobilize
- (42) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Endurance
- (42) Enfeebled Operation - Immobilize/Range
- (43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
- (43) Enfeebled Operation - Accuracy/Immobilize
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets
- (48) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Recharge
- (48) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (48) Call to Arms - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
- (50) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Arachnos Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface
Level 50: Vorpal Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Quickfoot - Endurance/RunSpeed
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (3) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (5) Performance Shifter - EndMod
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With all honesty there are some really nice builds here, while attitudes are the exact opposite.
Contest: from date to date, doesn't mean when you are 1st to submit you should win. It means that from all the builds submitted, the OP will look at the better build for HER, and the one fitting her style best should win.
I do agree that making changes to the target build due to the fact that someone submitted a build with something you like is unfair, and i know the OP will take this with her for the next contest, if she ever holds one.
To the OP,
I hope you find a build you like, that is the purpose of this contest anyways.
To the contestants,
Some of you really need to get of your high horse and get back to reality.
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If someones done most of the work from which others have pretty much benefitted and adapted then it should be obvious to the OP. I do not like these competitions too much. Appropriate rewards for useful differences can mean a 1st, 2nd and 3rd place and so on which is kind of nicer than having someone copy someones build, change 1 slot, everyone to know its better and winning.
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Pro's:
Stronger Serum = more HP
Proc in pets = more pet DPS
Con's
Kinetic Combat in Bayonet = less DPS
Lack of Numina = less endurance
Less slotting in Fortification = less resistance
I see what you did to get that proc in, and I think if it could be done without the sacrifice of Bayonet I would be considering it as a break even build so would be very torn, but as it stands I think better slotting in Bayonet is given an extra ~40 damage and I have already dropped my survivability levels quite a bit to settle on 45% defence so overall I am not sure making room for the Soulbound proc in this way is better.
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