Lore Pets questions

I have my Lore slot opened. For concept reasons, I'm looking at Warworks, Drones, or Polar Lights. Looking for advice on which may work best, which is the worst and why. On either side of the T4.

Thanx in advanced.

http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Lore_Slot_Abilities

I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30))
Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.

Think he's looking for an opinion.

Warworks used to be king of damage, so that would prolly be "best".

And you can't really hit us with 'concept reasons' and not tell us the concept.

And it's kind of coming down to picking nits with Lore Pets. For the most part, they all hit like trucks, some just hit like bigger trucks (Cimerorans) and some like smaller trucks (Seers) but you're still getting hit by a truck. So most of it does come down to just flavor.

If you're looking for just straight up damage, go for the T4 that gives you a boss and a lieutenant both with +DMG. The other T4 gives you a boss pet and invulnerable Support lieutenant, which can be nice but you have to figure it's a 5 minute uptime on a 15 minute cooldown so it isn't like you'll be relying on that support heavily.

Warworks is definitely the go to from that list if it's pure damage. As said, they were the kings until the Cimerorans deposed them.

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...7&postcount=26

If you want a pure DPS ranking, someone did that for you already.

It depends a lot on your character, though. Warworks and Cimerorans are the top pure DPS, but they're all Smash/Lethal. If I'm playing a Katana, I want to take Phantoms or Polar Lights or something so that I can get some other damage types.

I tend to only take Total Core pets anymore, with a few rare exceptions, because the situations where I'm actually *using* Lore, I really just want a metric boatload of damage.

As far as useful Radial Lore, there are a few standouts among the morass of "healz0rs". Phantoms Radial gives you Adrenaline Boost. Carnival Radial offers Forge. Seers Radial offers Fortitude (beware, Seers are also the weakest set for actual damage). Rikti offers AccelMetab. Rularuu: Crystal of Vigor and Storm Elementals: Hurricane. Of these, only AB, AM, and Hurricane seem to be really worth the loss of DPS from the Core.

Of the three you named, in the Core, the Warworks are flashier, better for killing a big AV, but Vicki is melee, and thus a bit more likely to get dead. Drones and Polars are better AoE, they're pure ranged, and they're graphically minimalist. Polars also KB a lot, much like having a pocket Peacebringer. You choose.

Something that hasn't been mentioned in support of Drones is the range on these guys. Their single target attacks have a 120' range and their cones are at 60'. This extraordinary range means that they'll spend less time running around trying to catch up to enemies and more time blasting away.

For AVs, you'll get better performance out of warworks but drones aren't too far behind. On Pylon runs, I take it down in about 33 seconds with Warworks and about 40 seconds with Drones.

For everything else, I'd say Drones are more ideal since they're swapping between many targets and not running to chase them.

Also, they fly and that's always a plus.

First off, thank you again for all the replies. This is what I was looking for. I've been to the wiki page, but to be honest, seeing thoughtful / reasoned discussion works better for me.

I generally hate knock-back as much as standing in lines. Polar Lights are out.

Luckily this is a case where I can have my cake and eat it too. I'm gonna go with the Drones first, then work on getting Warworks and then I can switch as needed.

and they all rejoiced....

One thing no one has mentioned is that the Radial T4 recharges in 10 minutes. The T4 Core takes 15 Min to recharge.

So in a 35 min span you can have the T4 Core twice or the T4 Radial 3 times. If you have a high personal DPS, then 15 minutes of the right kind of buff may be better overall that an LT.

But the T4 Radial Boss only lasts for 3 min and 20 seconds. So you only get the Boss for a total of 10 min either way. My experience running solo is that in most of the fights where I need or want Lore help the LT class pet gets burned down very quickly, and a lot of fights are over in less than 3 minutes, so I tend to take a T4 Radial as my everyday Lore slot.

Just an alternative idea.

Jak

I've tried mostly Clockwork and Vanguard.

Clockwork does not have good aoe. In fact, the only good aoe is that narrow Chest Beam attack. Either the boss or lt pet may have a cone attack but I don't recall being it good. What Clockwork is good for is that they are all ranged and they have -defense in their attacks. If you have no +tohit buff for them, they are pretty good at dealing dps on their own.



Vanguard has more aoe. I am not sure if it's the best but Sorcerer has two sphere aoe and Lt has one too. I like Vanguard a lot because Sorcerer always stands far from the action. She just stands far and shoots with her staff. The Lt pet actually dies often because he always goes in to use Bayonet (which has -lethal resistance).