Lore Pets questions
Speaking of Clockwork, I kinda wish they, along with protector bots, could get the forcefield power change to AOEs like we have. Too often clockwork will bubble all the pets first and the player last.
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I was going to post a similar question myself actually.
On my Crab I don't think I could stand looking at anything other than Arachnos pets, but they seem very middle or the road I am hoping they have AoE to compensate because they are melee too.
Does anyone know if their Mind Link is at least perma?
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I'm not sure how Clockwork received the title of 'best at AoE', but I hear it a lot. I'm guessing it was during the initial release when there were only 4 (?) lore pets to choose from.
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I'll take a look at Vanguard and Storm Elementals, thanks.
I was going to post a similar question myself actually.
On my Crab I don't think I could stand looking at anything other than Arachnos pets, but they seem very middle or the road I am hoping they have AoE to compensate because they are melee too. Does anyone know if their Mind Link is at least perma? |
If you're going Arachnos just go the Core route. Tarantula boss is decent enough. I chose robotic drones because they have minimal character models, 120 foot range, and hit for pretty good damage.
Lore choices pretty much come down to theme but I have never been able justify the support route on anything other than Elementals.
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It seems I'm a little late to the party.
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There's been at least one significant Lore DPS balance pass since this compilation - i22 included a bug fix that was preventing 8 or so Lore trees from proc'ing Interface or benefiting from any Alpha slots. I also made a balance pass on them around the time of i20.5's release in an attempt to bring all of the sets within a reasonable margin of performance.
It's probably worth re-evaluating Lore pet DPS rankings if what you're interested in is maximum DPS performance. |
Interesting.
Now my curiosity is peaked to find out where that margin is.
Although as others have mentioned my testing was done with out any Interface slotted.
If I remember though, the table which is there was done with only Cardiac Core Paragon slotted to get an idea of base values, so no interface was included.
Still, the patch is nice, my Robotic Drones can activate Interface again. You mentioned some didn't benefit from Alpha slots. If I remember from my thread about Lore Pets not triggering Interface, Carnies, Robotic Drones, and Storm Elementals were there. Did they also not benefit from Alpha as well? The balance pass is another thing to consider.... Deus_Otiosu, I hope you're looking at this thread. XD Also - have you thought about giving some of the Lore Pets more attacks so they're more competitive with Cimerorans (where the Boss pet has five attacks, and the lieutenant has four attacks)? It would help their attack chains a little, I think. |
Thanks for the heads up on this, and from Draeth Darkstar, I might come out of hiatus a bit to test the pets out again.
Maybe next week or two, 5 month old baby makes free time sparse.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
It seems I'm a little late to the party.
Sorry for the semi-necro (hasn't been 30 days however). I've been on a slight hiatus from the game. Interesting. Now my curiosity is peaked to find out where that margin is. Although as others have mentioned my testing was done with out any Interface slotted. Thanks for the heads up on this, and from Draeth Darkstar, I might come out of hiatus a bit to test the pets out again. Maybe next week or two, 5 month old baby makes free time sparse. |
I can say conclusively that Cimerorans are still amazing to the point of needing a nerf, and Seers are still craptacular and *desperately* need a buff. And I suspect that the "best AoE" crown would probably go to Polar Lights in real-world scenarios. Boss has a cone and a TAOE, the LT has a cone, and they're pure ranged and thus more likely to be activating them intelligently. Storm Elementals would be a strong contender if they weren't end-dropping themselves halfway through the run. Nemesis deserve special mention for AoE because Grenade is on a 4s recharge. Wut.
I think LOTS of people would like to see an updated list, LineNoise, so I can't wait.
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Thanks for the heads up on this, and from Draeth Darkstar, I might come out of hiatus a bit to test the pets out again.
Maybe next week or two, 5 month old baby makes free time sparse. |
Will be looking forward to the results, at any rate. I'm guessing Cimerorans will still remain first, but will Warworks and Phantoms retain second and third place?
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I have come to the conclusion that because of the recharge they are either not ready when you really want them, or if you save them for the AV it makes next to no difference in teams (Longbow aside) and feels like cheating solo.
Perma or nothing for me it seems
Still at least I have my level shift, but I would hope there are no more incarnate powers that you can't have perma.
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I have come to the conclusion that because of the recharge they are either not ready when you really want them, or if you save them for the AV it makes next to no difference in teams (Longbow aside) and feels like cheating solo.
Perma or nothing for me it seems Still at least I have my level shift, but I would hope there are no more incarnate powers that you can't have perma. |
I like how Lore pets are at the moment. Very powerful but very situational to balance it, and they don't force themselves on your character.
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I would think Vanguard or Storm Elementals would receive the title for Best AoE, they're both quite solid.
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