Build Challenge 2 - Ice Control/Trick Arrow Controller

Do you actually have an end-game Mind Controller, or is this more speculation based on what you see in Mids? Not going to go too far into it here, but for various reasons Mind Control is quite far behind in damage. You can bring that discussion to the Controller boards if you want to explore it in more detail.

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As it happens, so does everyone here. You're welcome to your opinion, but I do think you should at least consider there are people in this thread who have actually played this set before. I personally have 4 Ice characters at 50.

Trick question. Illusion has a completely different kind of control than any of the control sets. The actual Illusion set's AoE control in a fast moving group is probably around the level of certain Corruptors and Defender sets like Dark Miasma. Phantom Army is great for holding the attention of a couple of enemies or an AV. It's a great power. But it doesn't completely displace Ice Slick or AA and such. I feel like I have to ask again: have you played this set? Have you played any Controller at all? You do at least realize Illusion is not available to Dominators, even though you deflected my statement about Ice Dominators to talk about Controllers again? I'm really not trying to be mean to you, but the level of confidence you invest in your judgments about sets you have no first hand experience with is a little offputting. There's good reason I don't make myself knownon the Tanker boards for making judgments about Super Reflexes or whatever even though I have mids and am pretty good with it.

Yes.

Not at the level of play we're talking about. Mind Dominators can make up for it, but not because the primary has great damage.


That's really not necessary. I'm more a fan of some of the posted builds than others, but in the spirit of fairness I think we need to give everyone a chance to participate without insulting them.

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Someone's build doesn't even have block of ice....

I'm all for innovative build making but I don't think I can hop on the "don't even take or slot your single target hold" boat.

It's been a month now. What's the ETA on picking a winner?

Obviously not, or they would have picked you.

You're assuming that they were perfect at judging the builds, which they obviously weren't or they would have chosen mine...

I know, I was just being facetious... although my build is pretty badash... The build I have in this thread is equally as such...

Oed. your post leads me to believe that you are very biased towards Ice. You've referenced your experience with it, and you seem to be naturally fond of it based on your previous posts. This makes me think that you don't think Ice Control sucks- And congratulations on that feat. I'm sure it took a grand amount of doublethink and personal attachment in order to arrive at that conclusion.

Arbiter Hawk probably had little to do with the selection of the powersets in this thread, and if he had anything to do with it, he clearly chose what were two of the least discussed-as-being-good powersets in the game in an attempt to peak interest in them, via the new BUILD WORKSHOP SECTION OF THE FORUMS, which serves an awesome purpose, since DEV'S post here sometimes!

He's clearly busy developing the new stuff that leaked that we're not allowed to talk about. He'll get to this thread whenever he feels like it and has time to. I bet most of his personal COH time is spent stomping mobs on an Arch/Ment Blaster or a Human Warshade. Arbiter Hawk is way too clever to play Ice Control.

I think Ice Control is somewhat less powerful than other control sets, but playable. It could use some buffs. The reason I play it is because you can't find anything like it in other games. I've sent enough electronic enemies to their deaths in 20 years of RP gaming that my standard is "what holds my interest."

I think you commenting on it and taunting other players about it when you have never actually played it is silly, and your constant antagonizing of other players borders on a personality disorder. I'm not sure how you think you come across, but to me, at least, your tone is inappropriate and I think its probably best if you and I just stay away from each other.

Wow, so Ice Control has reached the epic plateau of "playable." Holding your interest isn't how the rest of us measure the benefits of powersets. Sorry about that.

If you don't wanna talk to me, don't quote me. I like COH but I don't like the fact that it's turned into happy fun land where everyone holds hands and skips through ranbows in an enchanted forest. I'm not everyone else on the forum, if I don't agree with something you say don't expect me to act like they do. If you can't take being argued with, just don't talk to me.

No. 'Holding your interest' isn't how YOU measure the benefits of powersets.

Just because a set doesn't meet up to your exacting standards, doesn't mean it's bad.

Already posted my perspective on it:

/holds THB's hand, commences skipping

..Not..sure..if THB has problem with that.

I thought I was the only one who felt like that!

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