umm.....what AT did you plan on trying to use a powerset with more than 5 pets on if it wasn't mastermind?? 
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I can see where it might be confusing, especially with all the other "pet" powers (which are usable by all archetypes) that have come out lately. It does say that it's a "power set" rather than a "power", but that's a fine distinction that not everyone will automatically understand. Specifying "a new power set for Masterminds" would be better.
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Another idea would be to re-jigger the permissions to allow any pet class you paid for to be played.
Buy a Beast Mastery, play it.
Want to play the legacy mastermind sets as premium? Buy the "Mastermind license" for those.
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Well, to be fair, an illusion controller can have 6 pets. Three 'types' of pets, but 6 out at once. I can see how someone might be misled.
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Originally Posted by Psychic Guardian
umm.....what AT did you plan on trying to use a powerset with more than 5 pets on if it wasn't mastermind??
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You can't use Street Justice, or Titan Weapons, or Staff Melee, or Darkness Control or ay other new set for any pre-existing character either. Buying a new powerset unlocks the powerset for creating new characters, not for modifying existing ones. This has always been the case.|
Originally Posted by Oliphantino
ONLY when you get IN the game ad go to the Paragon Market and select Beast Mastery power set and read its detailed description, does one finally discover this is for Mastermind characters only... who already have pets...
if i had paid real money to but paragon points to buy this and only then discovered i couldn't use the power set with the character i bought it for, i would not be a happy camper... |
I think you're confusing powersets (like Beast Mastery, and those I listed above) with inherent powers (like the Flying Disc, and Beast Run, and so on).
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Originally Posted by Ironblade
Well, to be fair, an illusion controller can have 6 pets. Three 'types' of pets, but 6 out at once. I can see how someone might be misled.
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I think Rod's right and the OP is confusing Beast Mastery with individual inherent powers like Beast Run, Coyote travel power, etc. And the email in question clearly says that Beast Mastery is a Power SET not an individual power.
It's an honest mistake. We all misread things from time to time.
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Originally Posted by Oliphantino
if i had paid real money to but paragon points to buy this and only then discovered i couldn't use the power set with the character i bought it for, i would not be a happy camper...
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Umm Power sets always are for new characters and can't be used on existing characters. What exactly were you thinking this was? It is a power set not a power.
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You admit that you know that it's a "Power set". You do realize a "power set" is something you have to create a new character to use, right? Did the e-mail really say "Now your Fire Blaster can summon pets!"? No. It probably said something like "You (as in, the player) can now unleash the power of wild beasts with the new Beast Mastery Power Set!" And we all KNOW that "Power Sets" are things like Fie Blast, Energy Melee, Gravity control... Power SETS.
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OK, I misread that. I assumed you were talking about the need for premiums to also unlock Masterminds before they could use it. So, the detailed info did indeed tell you that it's a Mastermind primary, not a vanity pet for your Scrapper. No big deal, eh?|
Originally Posted by Oliphantino
ONLY when you get IN the game ad go to the Paragon Market and select Beast Mastery power set and read its detailed description, does one finally discover this is for Mastermind characters only... who already have pets...
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Wasn't there another thread like this one about time manipulation and the person wanted it on an already existing character that got upset when he was told he had to make a new character to use it.
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It is a power set, and is described as such. Power SET. As in, primary or secondary for a character. Those are locked in at character creation and cannot be changed. Ever. |
Originally Posted by Oliphantino
if i had paid real money to but paragon points to buy this and only then discovered i couldn't use the power set with the character i bought it for, i would not be a happy camper... sure... i should always read the description in the market in its fullest before buying... but if buying from the Paragon Market ends up being a bad experience, even if it is due to me not reading a third description of the same item on the assumption the other two would list any restrictions if they existed... will often result in my not buying as much from the Paragon Market... |
You should know just by having played the game for a while that a new power set cannot be used on a pre-existing character.
Sorry, but if you bought it and got pissed off because you couldn't use the set with the blaster you created last year, you have no one to blame but yourself.
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There may have been but it doesn't invalidate the fact that anyone who has read the manual, or even just made a character and played the game knows that there is no such thing as respeccing out of an existing power set or archetype. They also know that this game has never had universal power sets that could be used by any archetype.|
Originally Posted by CyWolf
Wasn't there another thread like this one about time manipulation and the person wanted it on an already existing character that got upset when he was told he had to make a new character to use it.
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And anyone that complains that they are ignorant of the game mechanics has no one to blame but themselves because the information is freely available to everyone.
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Originally Posted by Oliphantino
... i think it should be a policy that in advertisements for items sold in the Paragon Market to make it a point to describe all the REQUIREMENTS to use each item...
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Access to the Mastermind AT.
An active CoH account.
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A broadband internet connection.
Electricity.
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You left "can read" off that list.
... i think it should be a policy that in advertisements for items sold in the Paragon Market to make it a point to describe all the REQUIREMENTS to use each item...
I just got an email adverting the Beast Mastery power set... the email seems to indicate any character can use it... it has a link to a more detailed description... that description also does not say anything about character requirements to use the power set...
ONLY when you get IN the game ad go to the Paragon Market and select Beast Mastery power set and read its detailed description, does one finally discover this is for Mastermind characters only... who already have pets...
if i had paid real money to but paragon points to buy this and only then discovered i couldn't use the power set with the character i bought it for, i would not be a happy camper...
sure... i should always read the description in the market in its fullest before buying... but if buying from the Paragon Market ends up being a bad experience, even if it is due to me not reading a third description of the same item on the assumption the other two would list any restrictions if they existed... will often result in my not buying as much from the Paragon Market...
i feel i have a reasonable expectation that all descriptions should list requirements for use... especially those that suggest it is a detailed description, such as a link called 'Learn More'...