Thinking about rerolling my Controllers into Dominators.

So yeah the title pretty much says it all. I am considering trying Doms since I hate sitting on the side lines and prefer to be out there dealing damage. The fact I can lock down a mob as well makes it even better. I used to have a Dom way back when CoV first came out who was a Grav/Energy and my experience wasn't very good as I didn't like it so much.

I currently have two Controllers: A elec/rad who is level 50, and a dark/dark who is level 32. Where they have both proven to be good as I mentioned before I don't really like sitting in the back healing, buffing and debuffing. I want to be in the fight.

Any way I love Electric Control. It's a very fun set and just looks cool. Darkness Control though I'm still learning each of the powers, it has potential to be just as good in my opinion and I like my shadowy puppy =P

So here's my question. What are good secondaries to pair with both Elec/ and Dark/ ?

there aren't really any bad choices anymore, it all depends on what you want to do
Dark Assault is a fairly decent set, but right now, there are a lot of DA's out there

Do you like melee? Try Earth Assault

Do you want to stay in range only? Energy Assault for ST, or Psi with more AE options

Do you just like damage, and don't care about any secondary effects? try fire

Both Ice and Thorns are middle of the road sets, thorns you do have redraw, it all depends on how sensitive to redraw you are

Of all the sets, I'd recommend the least maybe Elect Assault, its not a bad set, I'm not a fan of getting Voltiac Sentinal instead of a true tier 3 ST ranged attack, and Thunderstrike while a great ST attack, only has a splash damage effect with other targets

On the side note, even with the recent changes, I'd rank Grav as the worst primary for Doms

the good thing with darkness controll is the fact that all powers except the pets are affected by domination...

I'd avoid Thorns and Fire for Elec Control, just because the DoT has a tendency to interfere with the sleep patch a bit.

My Elec/NRG has got great single target damage and is in melee a lot. However the single target damage focus can get slightly annoying (especially on teams) and the knockback takes a little getting used to (and exploiting, remember range is only checked when a power is triggered, so you can hit something with Power Push to send them flying and have a Total Focus queued up after it and it will still hit them).

NRG feels powerful though, the attacks feel like they really hit hard.

Dark/Thorns could be interesting actually. Thorns is melee friendly with possibly the best cone attack of any Dominator set thanks to the wide arc and quick animation.

I am thinking of re-rolling my controller to Dom as well but the draw of having fluffy is keeping me with it. Dom suits my playstyle a lot more but having haunts, beast and fluffy is too good to give up

For elec it really depends on how particular you are about breaking your sleep patch with dots, which might drive some away from dark/fire/thorns.

Popular pairs I know of

elec - mostly for theme or sapping, probably not the best choice but decent all around

energy - bit single target focused. But great at that.

Earth - cages don't prevent knockdown and you need to be in melee for elec anyway so they mesh very well outside of mud pots which you can skip. Quite a bit of extra control added.

Psi - sapping works well with drain pysche. Outside of killing robots I really like mine, it just felt a bit slow aoe wise till late in the build

Have fun

I assume he means, not actually damaging stuff. With conductive aura and choking cloud I hope he's standing in melee.

Another option op is to make a more damaging controller.

I'm sure my post about a splattroller is still up. That way you can get your control fix and still have fun killing things.

Generally

Fire
Plant

Maybe..

Grav? Probably single target stuff
Dark? Not sure how good the pets are
Illusion, single target stuff

With

Rad
Storm
Kin

Trick? Wonder if oil slick breaks pets

Dark?

Either way, high damage controllers are quite possible if you want to stick with.

I got my Dark/Dark to 50 a few days ago and he is excellent! I might also recommend dark/psi or mainly anything with Psi because once you have had drain psyche it is REALLY hard to play something else. The only reason I like dark assault so much besides it has engulfing darkness it also has drain life. That is nothing compared to DP, but still it is something. Also when you get softcapped or near softcap all of your -hit will keep you from getting hit much and drain life will be fine.

PS: I personally skipped haunt and the pet to fit in more def powers so I could softcap. I liked haunt, but a lot of the time I would forget to use it and the L32 pet is broken and barely uses most of his attacks so I don't miss him at all honestly.

Make a Plant/Fire Dom first.

Then just stop. There's no other comparison sets out there.

I deleted a lvl50 alpha slotted plant/empathy to reroll a plant/psi and still consider it an excellent decision. I know controllers are awesome at things, they just aren't the AT for me.

I also have an elec/psi dom around lvl 40 that is awesome. Aoe damage was unimpressive before I picked up sleet in the APP, but with the sleep patch and some serious sapping in conductive aura I was able to pretty much survive anything.

To the OP:

Elec/'s static field is a pet and so does not benefit from domination. It is my understanding that the chain-jumping attacks from elec/ also only have domination on the first target. Are you sure you want to reroll as a dom?

Elec/ is still fine as a dom, but I think you will be disappointed if you reroll from controller.

There is a "the grass is always greener on the other side" effect that might be in play here.

Thank you for all the helpful ideas.


I decided to roll a Dark/Dark after thinking long and hard on it, and I'm surely not regretting my decision. He is currently at level 15 and as stated already he just seems to get better everytime he dings a new level.


For Elec/ I decided on a Elec/Earth and not regretting that decision either. He's only level 11 atm, but the two sets mesh very well together. Conductive Aura requires me in melee mostly which seems to be what /Earth is focused around more so than range and it's a blast.


Definitely what I needed, and I'm not looking back.

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill ... I just have to return to this and ask why you feel you have to be "sitting in the back?" *Especially* with Elec/Rad? I mean, roll the doms, they're a freaking blast to play, but it sounds like you've been selling your 'trollers short.

Controllers are awesome don't get me wrong, but they just weren't for me. I suppose putting it as sitting in the back was inaccurate, but slythetic is completely right when he said I was looking for damage which Controllers don't do much of. I mean with /Rad it was easier to do more than average, but it still wasn't enough for me. I play mostly Brutes and I love being in the center of the fight, or just dealing damage in general.

Simply put. I'm the guy you look for to deal damage, not support.

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Originally Posted by Crysys Make a Plant/Fire Dom first. Then just stop. There's no other comparison sets out there.

I was thinking about rolling this combo next after I've dinged 50 on the first two, because it does sound fun.

Plant/Fire is my Farming toon CriticalCharge. He is by far my strongest fastest Dom that I have in my arsenal. Fire/Earth looks good on paper...especially if you lvl'd him to 53...but by god would it be painful...

I agree it was my favorite control set before the Pet AI change when Fire was still considered king. I'm a bit Bias though I try to get my paws on ANY comic book character with the power of plant.