Yes, you're missing the selling side of the equation. Sell your drops on the market and you'll soon have lots of inf to work with. There are lots of tricks to getting starting cash, and all of the old market techniques work perfectly fine to have you set for the life of your character.
The market is for both selling and buying. If you only buy there, you need another way of raising the inf to play there. If you're selling stuff, you'll quickly have enough inf to buy too if you want.
once you have a market egg, it's hard to keep from making inf.
that's part of why prices can go so high--so many people have so much inf.
sell to buy
buy to sell
skim some off the transaction in the meantime
oh
and
play the game
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One of the things you're missing are that salvage and IO's are cheaper than they've been in ages. Not every single thing, no. Currently, as fewer players are logging on until The Next Big Thing (I22) hits, prices on things like rare salvage are getting more expensive. But the more people who are on the game, the more "stuff" there is out there, the cheaper everything is. Things are cheap now. A doctored wounds heal/recharge is 3 million. A performance shifter end mod/rech is 10 million. This is less than 1/3rd the cost they were last summer, when they were 10+ and 30+ respectively. |
Originally Posted by troy26
I've been out of the game for a good while, but was thinking about giving it another run. Ony thing is I see that costume contests are going as high as $100M! That got me thinking something along the lines of "if prices in the market are so inflated that $100M can be given away on a regular basis for a costume contest, how in the hell would I ever get my characters off the ground?!? (I probably have about $300M total...and I'm not the type to beg for cash).
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With the big influx of reward merits, things like LotG +rech. and the numina proc right now are less than half the cost that they were last week. This will change, but for now, even this stuff is relatively cheap.
Huge amounts of surplus infl. are available to those who have figured out the economy, and have found ways to make bajillions. This makes a few items ridiculously expensive (like damage purples and pvp IO's), because there are people willing to spend this kind of infl. with their surplus.
How does this affect you? Well, mostly it doesn't.
Avoid thinking that purples are all that and a bag of chips. They aren't. They give you recharge. Your scrapper could care less, and if it's a big deal to him/her, then go after the spiritual Alpha slot. (What your scrapper wants is a set of gaussians, only one of which is is expensive.) Good, solid builds are not expensive.
If having infl. is important to you, figure out the economy and play the mini-game of becoming a bajillionaire. If that doesn't appeal to you, then enter those costume contests. Or, just buy good solid sets (recipes, and craft yourself) and stop worrying about people what other people have.
Or, to sum up, go play and have fun!
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Originally Posted by troy26
I've been out of the game for a good while, but was thinking about giving it another run. Ony thing is I see that costume contests are going as high as $100M! That got me thinking something along the lines of "if prices in the market are so inflated that $100M can be given away on a regular basis for a costume contest, how in the hell would I ever get my characters off the ground?!? (I probably have about $300M total...and I'm not the type to beg for cash).
Maybe I'm missing something? |
Anyway, if money is such a problem, you can do some of the following:
- Farm (missions or AE) for drops/tickets
- Farm alignment merits to buy highly desired recipes and sell them. Or just get random rolls
- Farm reward merits to convert them to a-merits (or just roll them, too)
- Play the market
Any of the above will get you steady money. Pick yours
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Or, you could just play the game the way you always did and use Merits to get the pricy stuff. |
Originally Posted by Erhnam
Anyway, if money is such a problem, you can do some of the following:
- Farm (missions or AE) for drops/tickets - Farm alignment merits to buy highly desired recipes and sell them. Or just get random rolls - Farm reward merits to convert them to a-merits (or just roll them, too) - Play the market Any of the above will get you steady money. Pick yours |
And you can learn how to slot your characters to be awesome on the cheap, like I do.
I have an AV soloing Scrapper and a GM soloing Defender, and paid well below 2 billion for both builds combined. Compared to the 6-7 billion single builds I see on a daily basis, that's dirt cheap. If I'd bought everything fro the "buy it NAO!!!" price, I probably would have spent 3-4 billion per build, but I didn't. The majority of my expensive stuff was acquired with merits or Alignment merits. The spending sprees I went on were fueled by purple drops that I sold for anywhere from 100 mil to 600 mil.
If you're not in a hurry about it, you can build anything you like without having to do things in the game you don't enjoy.
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Archie just resubbed after about eighteen months away from the game. He fired up his big marketeer's spreadsheet o' doom, and he was rather surprised to find that most of his old niches were selling at either about the same or lower than when he left.
While there are a few specific areas where prices have jumped, overall I don't see too much of a problem.
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I wasnt implying that to be some sort of second job :P Most of it (reward merit and alig. merit "farming") can be done during normal play. Im usually like you, I get the hard stuff (lotgs, numina/miracle) with merits and buy cheap the rest. Sometimes I just buy 5 recipes, I keep one, craft and sell the other 4, and my enhance comes free or even at a profit, for 1 min of extra "work" :P
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Or, you could just play the game the way you always did and use Merits to get the pricy stuff.
* * * If you're not in a hurry about it, you can build anything you like without having to do things in the game you don't enjoy. |
Another thing you can do is: if you know what you are going to want for your build, put in bids early. Recipes are usually cheaper, of course. If you have the luxury of time, you won't be pressured into bidding at "buy it nao!" prices. It'd be convenient if you have a personal SG with Base to safely store your purchases until the right time to use them. You can also store rare Salvage drops that you might need later.
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Just curious, when did you leave the game? Was it before inventions, and the marketplace? Because 100 million is really a pittance, now days. Back then, a small fortune, but yeah, not anymore.
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Originally Posted by troy26
I've been out of the game for a good while, but was thinking about giving it another run. Ony thing is I see that costume contests are going as high as $100M! That got me thinking something along the lines of "if prices in the market are so inflated that $100M can be given away on a regular basis for a costume contest, how in the hell would I ever get my characters off the ground?!? (I probably have about $300M total...and I'm not the type to beg for cash).
Maybe I'm missing something? |
well see what happens is that you get these change purses so full of gold that they eventually break and...no wait, wrong game :-X
but really, some people earn inf so easy that they'll just plop down a bid that's rediculously high enough to guarantee it to succeed. Sometimes I get tired of trying to "figure out" what the numbers are on the other side of the equation and simply start stabbing higher until I get what I want.
Heck when the Market was first introduced back in I9 the devs told us there was over 300 trillion influence in the economy that players had earned since the game launched back in 2004.
So of course the market has gotten more inflated since then.
That reminds me, I got a recipe drop (Respec) thats worth about a hundred million on a character a month or so ago. Huh. i wonder which alt I left it on?
Don't know, but I garuntee it'll be in the last place you look.
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I'm an AE ambush farmer on Union and know how to make Inf from rolling niche pools. With the drop of i21 AE nerfs i decided to try my hand at playing the market. Lo and behold i stumble across the doctored wounds niche and my mind was blown and the profit i made off them! Buying the recipe for 111,111 and crafting and selling for 10mill! I think i rode that niche to my first 2bn and hopped off just before it crashed and landed where it is now.|
Originally Posted by _eeek_
A doctored wounds heal/recharge is 3 million. A performance shifter end mod/rech is 10 million. This is less than 1/3rd the cost they were last summer, when they were 10+ and 30+ respectively.
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Im still trying to work the market but the lack of salvage is destroying my profits as i only work with one toon and only work the 10-15mill IOs. So the massive spike in salvage prices is killing me atm
Good job I have my AE farmer to falling back on in hard times.
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One other thing you're missing is that you don't need the expensive stuff. SOs still work, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Stormbird
One other thing you're missing is that you don't need the expensive stuff. SOs still work, thanks.
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I've been out of the game for a good while, but was thinking about giving it another run. Ony thing is I see that costume contests are going as high as $100M! That got me thinking something along the lines of "if prices in the market are so inflated that $100M can be given away on a regular basis for a costume contest, how in the hell would I ever get my characters off the ground?!? (I probably have about $300M total...and I'm not the type to beg for cash).
Maybe I'm missing something?