So, uh, where should I slot this ATO set?


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Ever on the quest to improve my brute, even when improvement isn't needed, I've found myself mostly done on collecting the Brute Fury set. But once I'm done, which power should I place it in? I'll be six-slotting it, and I'm going to be placing it in my SS/Elec brute. Is there one power that might make utility of the proc more so than others?


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This is just my opinion..so take it with a grain of salt. I run a Stone/Stone btw.

I slotted my ATO's (which I upgarded to superior as well) into Mudpots in one build and into one of the hammer attacks (I think Heavy Mallet) in another.

For slotting into Mudpots, it procs every time it hits (up to 4 times a minute) which gives this increased chance of Fury generation. So while it is running, I can attack away and let it proc automatically. This is the build I drive most of the time.

For slotting into Heavy Mallet, I dunno....I just did. Its just another purple set in this build.

If I were you I would slot it into the damage aura for the "fire and forget" proc effect.


 

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Where did you see the results for the proc in your damage aura? I had it in my lightning field last night and could not tell any difference, or see it displayed.

Other then that I am really happy with the set I have mine split between 2 powers now for +10 S/L def, that lets me keep my softcap and move other powers around, no more having to 4 slot Brawl with Kinetic combats was great!


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Originally Posted by monkey0707 View Post
...I have mine split between 2 powers now for +10 S/L def, that lets me keep my softcap and move other powers around, no more having to 4 slot Brawl with Kinetic combats was great!
You can slot these in more than one power??? I thought they were Unique!


 

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You can slot these in more than one power??? I thought they were Unique!
He means he split the set across two powers, like putting half in one and half in the other, so he gets the first two set bonuses twice.


 

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I've heard if you 'purplize' a set you can slot a second set


 

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I've heard if you 'purplize' a set you can slot a second set
For me that isn't the case, all the moves that would normally be slottable become greyed out.


 

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So, I've heard if you have a high recharge build, the proc is best placed in AoE powers.

Assuming Perma-Hasten, what would be more beneficial:

Foot Stomp with a recharge proc

Foot Stomp 6-slotted with Brute Fury (upgraded)


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Originally Posted by Kotchie View Post
This is just my opinion..so take it with a grain of salt. I run a Stone/Stone btw.

I slotted my ATO's (which I upgarded to superior as well) into Mudpots in one build and into one of the hammer attacks (I think Heavy Mallet) in another.

For slotting into Mudpots, it procs every time it hits (up to 4 times a minute) which gives this increased chance of Fury generation. So while it is running, I can attack away and let it proc automatically. This is the build I drive most of the time.
The proc in an aura has a chance to fire once every ten seconds. If the Brute proc works like other procs, it has a chance to fire for every foe hit by the aura. I am not sure if the fury generation has some kind of limit that prevents an AoE from proc'ing multiple times though.


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Originally Posted by Rylas View Post
Assuming Perma-Hasten, what would be more beneficial:

Foot Stomp with a recharge proc

Foot Stomp 6-slotted with Brute Fury (upgraded)
Recharge proc, IMO. No reason you can't do a recharge proc + 5 pieces of upgraded Brute's Fury, too.


 

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Recharge proc, IMO. No reason you can't do a recharge proc + 5 pieces of upgraded Brute's Fury, too.
Hmm... I was hoping to get the 4% S/L resistance, but I may take this into consideration. But which one would I leave out? Acc/Dam?


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Hmm... I was hoping to get the 4% S/L resistance, but I may take this into consideration. But which one would I leave out? Acc/Dam?
With the upgraded set, I think you might be able to leave out the dam/rech instead and still have ED-capped recharge, but I don't have the numbers in front of me right now so I'm not sure.

If you want the resistance, though, get that. My personal preference is for the proc, but the difference either way probably isn't huge when you've already got perma-hasten.


 

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With the upgraded set, I think you might be able to leave out the dam/rech instead and still have ED-capped recharge, but I don't have the numbers in front of me right now so I'm not sure.

If you want the resistance, though, get that. My personal preference is for the proc, but the difference either way probably isn't huge when you've already got perma-hasten.
Well, with this set, I plan on swapping out some slotting elsewhere for more defense bonuses (as this set would more than make up for the recharge bonus change).


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Eh, just saw that the Super bonus for resistance would be 2.5, not 4. So 5-slotting this without the Acc/Dam. That puts it at 50% acc, and my build already carries +50 acc from bonuses. Should be good.


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Originally Posted by Exxcaliber View Post
I've heard if you 'purplize' a set you can slot a second set
Now that is an interesting question. Does making the ATO's into their superior versions allow you to install another set that you then won't be able to catalyze due to the unique nature of the set?

If so, then I'm thinking this: split a set among 2 powers and upgrade them to superior to augment the S/L bonus, then get another set and split it again amongst two other powers, or the same powers that have the superior versions already installed thus the two powers are now 6 slotted each with 3 standard and 3 superior ATO...

Which now leads to the next question: if this does work is it a bug or WAI ?


 

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...Does making the ATO's into their superior versions allow you to install another set that you then won't be able to catalyze due to the unique nature of the set?...
On the Beta forums some have said they've attempted this and...no dice. Apparently they're truly Unique even when Superior-lized.

Otherwise, you could 3-slot 4 powers (2 superior, 2 normal) and get +16% s/l defense, plus two chances of Fury Proccing (5 and 7). I'd say they're likely right that this is a nono...


 

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Originally Posted by Socorro View Post
On the Beta forums some have said they've attempted this and...no dice. Apparently they're truly Unique even when Superior-lized.

Otherwise, you could 3-slot 4 powers (2 superior, 2 normal) and get +16% s/l defense, plus two chances of Fury Proccing (5 and 7). I'd say they're likely right that this is a nono...
Yeah, two such procs augmenting Fury would seem a bit overamped. Too bad, though.

Ah well, this set is still good for splitting amongst two powers for the S/L bonus at least.


 

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so, put the set in a fast single target or in a pbaoe?


YMMV---IMO
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so, put the set in a fast single target or in a pbaoe?
Not necessarily - unlike normal IO procs, the ATO procs have a higher proc chance in powers with longer recharge. So rather than putting it in your fastest-recharging power, or the power you use most often, you want to put it in a power that you use as often as possible, that is, as soon as it recharges. There's an upper limit on how long you want the recharge to be (where the proc rate reaches 100%, so a longer recharge stops raising it), so very long-recharge powers like Shield Charge are not good places for the proc. The exact cutoff point isn't clear yet, since we don't know the exact formula for the proc rate, but most non-nuke attacks should be below that point.


 

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I have the proc in Follow Through, which I use 2x in every attack chain (RA-FT-CB-AoD-FT). I have the other 5 ATOs in RA.


 

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Putting the proc in Footstomp has proven pretty good. Just to test it out, I went to Dark Astoria and found a large mob to see how well it worked. With no damage aura on (so my fury stayed at 0) I gained a full Fury bar with one Stomp.

Probably broken, but it's bound to still be good after it's adjusted.


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Only able to be slotted in primary and secondary powers sucks... I was hoping to put it in the PPP but I cant slot it there.

I would have to redo my entire build to use it.


YMMV---IMO
Ice Ember

 

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I did add it to punch on mine ss/fire brute fury goes pretty often to 85+


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Originally Posted by monkey0707 View Post
Other then that I am really happy with the set I have mine split between 2 powers now for +10 S/L def, that lets me keep my softcap and move other powers around, no more having to 4 slot Brawl with Kinetic combats was great!
This actually works?

If so...this changes my build a lot.


 

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This actually works?
Yes. Each piece of the set is unique, so you can split the 6 pieces between 2 powers and get the 3-piece bonus twice.