Some questions related to Union RP/Unionverse
Welcome!
Yes, this would be a perfectly fine place to ask questions regarding RP whether it be Union or any of the other servers. I'm a Unionite but I'll be honest, I've been out of the loop for a while now so hopefully some other, more regular Union RPers will be able to update you on how things are currently.
Personally, I don't put NPCs up on the Wiki but some do. Recaps tend to be there for people who couldn't make events or just need to catch up between sessions. You could always consider PMing the poster of the recap for more information. Another thing to consider is that Wiki entries are normally posted using the character's hero or villain name but people familiar with the character may refer to them using their given name.
Finding others to RP with be they hero allies or villainous opposition can take a bit of time building up contacts but if you request help here and mention it in the channel, hopefully someone will like the sound of it and you can arrange something. The channel tends to be the place to ask these kind of things but I do know what you mean about forums, I tend to be a forum chatterer myself.
Oh and in case you haven't seen it, here's a small guide I wrote up before our server lists merged last year that attempts to give an overview of the Union RP landscape. It's probably desperately in need of an update but it may help you out:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=255630
Good luck!
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The Militia: Union RP Supergroup - www.themilitia.org.uk
re the Pocket d thread.
Lucy is one of mine, her "hero" name is Dire Lament. Her unionverse page is very out of date. The Pocket D posts are mostly from a character based view point and should not be taken as the whole truth, maybe 15% of the truth on a good day.
The Pocket D posts are mostly from a character based view point and should not be taken as the whole truth, maybe 15% of the truth on a good day.
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When I first started posting my PD summaries, they used to be somewhat more detailed. That proved to be a lot of work, so now I just try to give a flavour of what happened, and then only really the stuff that my characters interacted with. There is usually more going on than gets reported. In addition, as stated, there is a certain 'IC' bias. Lucy, for instance, is always going to come across as annoying in my posts, because that's how Claire sees her. In addition, most of the names used are the characters 'real' names, at least if they are people my characters have met and got to know.
What I try to give is give an idea of what went on, the atmosphere of that night, and hope that perhaps others will want to fill things in from their own characters point of view. And that people who weren't there might think they are missing out and come along. How successful the last part is, I have no idea. Perhaps if you and your friends turn up I'll be vindicated
As got your other questions, the forums are of course a good place to ask questions. It would be worth you joining the Union Roleplayers global chat as well, of course, but they aren't always very...focused...on what's actually going on. Everybody is friendly, though, and they are a good place for getting instant answers to Lore related stuff or opinions on concepts etc.
If your little group of villains was more established, I would have pointed them towards the Liberty Force. After all, their base has been broken into by every villain out there This might actually be somewhere that URP would be better finding somebody than the forums. People will have gotten to know you a little, and have a better idea if they would suit your style and vice versa.
Finally, after rambling on more than I intended, welcome to the Union RP community. I hope you will find the niche that keeps you with us for a long time.
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
re the Pocket d thread.
Lucy is one of mine, her "hero" name is Dire Lament. Her unionverse page is very out of date. The Pocket D posts are mostly from a character based view point and should not be taken as the whole truth, maybe 15% of the truth on a good day. |
Could you divulge the names of some of the other characters from the Pocked D thread so I can look those up as well? Or anything else I should look into?
I've started putting some of my characters in there as well still very preliminary, but then I can ask others to give some advice when an initial version is written down.
When I first started posting my PD summaries, they used to be somewhat more detailed. That proved to be a lot of work, so now I just try to give a flavour of what happened, and then only really the stuff that my characters interacted with. There is usually more going on than gets reported. In addition, as stated, there is a certain 'IC' bias. Lucy, for instance, is always going to come across as annoying in my posts, because that's how Claire sees her. In addition, most of the names used are the characters 'real' names, at least if they are people my characters have met and got to know.
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What I try to give is give an idea of what went on, the atmosphere of that night, and hope that perhaps others will want to fill things in from their own characters point of view. And that people who weren't there might think they are missing out and come along. How successful the last part is, I have no idea. Perhaps if you and your friends turn up I'll be vindicated |
As got your other questions, the forums are of course a good place to ask questions. It would be worth you joining the Union Roleplayers global chat as well, of course, but they aren't always very...focused...on what's actually going on. Everybody is friendly, though, and they are a good place for getting instant answers to Lore related stuff or opinions on concepts etc. |
If your little group of villains was more established, I would have pointed them towards the Liberty Force. After all, their base has been broken into by every villain out there This might actually be somewhere that URP would be better finding somebody than the forums. People will have gotten to know you a little, and have a better idea if they would suit your style and vice versa. |
Some kind of fledgling hero around level 20 could be an interesting enemy though. We'll write the background of the various characters, then people can see if there is a reason in their own characters to be enemies. Some kind of demon hunter could work for example, quite a few of the Conclave members are various forms of creatures from other planes of existence and one is likely a proper demon (details TBD).
Whatever the members of the Conclave will end up being, most of them will be "villains you can talk to", the Lex Luthor type or Magneto type, not so much Darkside or Green Goblin. I think quite a few will go Rogue.
Finally, after rambling on more than I intended, welcome to the Union RP community. I hope you will find the niche that keeps you with us for a long time. |
In character is what it's all about, right?
We had a look at Pocket D a week or so ago, there was like a group of lvl50's standing around the DJ, but most seemed AFK or something. |
Thanks. Once we've made a couple of pages on the wiki, I'll solicit some advice here. |
Yeah, Libery Force seems out of our league. And I thought base raiding was disabled at the moment? Some kind of fledgling hero around level 20 could be an interesting enemy though. We'll write the background of the various characters, then people can see if there is a reason in their own characters to be enemies. Some kind of demon hunter could work for example, quite a few of the Conclave members are various forms of creatures from other planes of existence and one is likely a proper demon (details TBD). |
Nighthunters are functionally dead, alas, or they would be a great fit. There's bound to be some leftover heroes from that though. I have Artemidos as a monster hunter myself
And don't worry about levels, base raids, etc. There'll be a way to make stuff work (AE missions, PVP, narrated PVP, blah de blah).
Please do join the Union Roleplayers channel. And give me a shout in-game! @oreso
Cheers!
OMG! How like, totally kewl are these characters?!1
the pocket d crowd usually gather at about 8pm or 9pm British time, but you can always just shout for RP on the channel and someone will probably be free.
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not even nearly everyone uses the wiki, but I have noticed your posts up there myself. jump in with RP whenever you wanna. |
Liberty Force do fight big threats, but individual heroes in there are very much street level. Nighthunters are functionally dead, alas, or they would be a great fit. There's bound to be some leftover heroes from that though. I have Artemidos as a monster hunter myself |
And don't worry about levels, base raids, etc. There'll be a way to make stuff work (AE missions, PVP, narrated PVP, blah de blah). |
Please do join the Union Roleplayers channel. And give me a shout in-game! @oreso Cheers! |
So. I indeed had the wrong Lucy. I've read the page, care to update it sometime? Nice background story but it seems a bit hard to roleplay. Apparently you're doing fine nevertheless or the character has seen quite a bit of developement since then.
Could you divulge the names of some of the other characters from the Pocked D thread so I can look those up as well? Or anything else I should look into? I've started putting some of my characters in there as well still very preliminary, but then I can ask others to give some advice when an initial version is written down. |
Saddly RL time needs and massive alt-ities means i simple lack the time to keep my pages up to date, i then to view them as a historic starting point now.
I am not sure who has pages, upto date or not , your best bet is to just lurk in a corner and watch us, the number of people varies a lot from night to night, so you will have to keep peeking. A number of players have lots of Alts, so you may need a note book and a wall chart to keep track.
As said do join the channel, then you can ask ingame, and we can drag you in.
9pm UK time, upstaires bar, blue door side is where you will find us starting to gather.
Hope to see you there soon.
Could you divulge the names of some of the other characters from the Pocked D thread so I can look those up as well? Or anything else I should look into?
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Claire is Lightning Kiss
Venessa is, uh, Venessa. Don't confuse her with Venom. It annoys her
Jake is Iron Anderson
Rei is Yakuza Girl, and is quite closely tied with Lady Cobra
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
Ooook, yes, erm i just looked at Dire's page..on that she is level 10, currently she is level 50 with +3 Incy shift and a full set of T4 slotted Incy powers...so yes its a bit out of date, consider that a orgins page
Bear in mind a lot of these are probably out of date...
Claire is Lightning Kiss Venessa is, uh, Venessa. Don't confuse her with Venom. It annoys her Jake is Iron Anderson Rei is Yakuza Girl, and is quite closely tied with Lady Cobra |
I had a short chat with oreso in game yesterday.
I first want to have the character stories, backgrounds and descriptions to be finished. How to role-play if you don't know who the character is? I've been working some on my own characters, but my friends haven't had time to do much with theirs, and we need to make one coherent story. One of them will be visiting me on Friday, so maybe we'll hash something out then. Of course they had ideas when making the characters, to be fully fledged stories, it needs a bit more work.
Next to that, as I said, I'm not such a fan of just showing up at Pocket D, some kind of RP story leading to it, would be more suitable in my opinion. I need to talk about this with my friends as well.
But thanks a lot for the input, the friendly answers aren't wasted. I'm just not the kind of guy to jump of the deep end before some preparation. This is even true for CoX itself. Even though it's free, I first read quite a bit online before installing it and signing up.
Well. Today the wiki is offline anyway. I had hoped it would only be offline for the US, given that it's a US issue, but I suppose it's for a good cause.
Next to that, as I said, I'm not such a fan of just showing up at Pocket D, some kind of RP story leading to it, would be more suitable in my opinion.
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Look forward to seeing you and your friends soon!
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#406785 - Assisting the PPD
Hello, Im Nitro, I tend to lurk, and provide snark.
Helpfully, I decided to update the pages on Venom and Venessa. I dont think I actually added much by way of content, but they are certainty updated. In fact, on balance, I think more content has been taken away than added, but thats incidental.
I would, to some extent, caution against trying to find out large amounts of information ahead of time, as your characters obviously wouldnt be there and, for the most part, wouldnt know the people. I also find the wiki pages are quite often lacking, even when they have lots of detail they quite often fail to encapsulate what the events were actually like.
Also, I am of the school of thought that its often much better not to work out all the character details ahead of time, preferring only broad strokes and maybe pinning down a couple of points. Of course, this does mean my characters occasionally evolve in totally unexpected ways, but thats half the fun. Anyway, I would very much suggest that the sooner you start getting involved the better; as most things can be sorted out on the fly and it means you start getting involved and doing things, which is, after all, the fun bit.
I look forward to seeing you in game.
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Welcome, and I would say 'see you about' but my play time at the moment is erractic at best. I.e. by the time I get back on in the evenings everyone has already [Pancake]'d off >_>
But hey, you'll know when I'm on. URP will fill with the powers of rage and boiling anger that are my (apparent) trademark
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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I would, to some extent, caution against trying to find out large amounts of information ahead of time, as your characters obviously wouldn’t be there and, for the most part, wouldn’t know the people. I also find the wiki pages are quite often lacking, even when they have lots of detail they quite often fail to encapsulate what the events were actually like.
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It's like with the different D&D settings, Forgotten Realms is very different from Ebberron in lore and feel even though both use the same mechanics. I need to have a bit of a feel for how the universe and the characters in it work.
Currently we're also still very busy learning the game itself, with base building, enhancements, inventions, etc. I don't want to get involved in too many things at once. I'm still struggling with basic stuff, like the chat settings, UI layout, etc.. We'll get there in a few weeks.
I'm not so much looking for specific information, but more to get an idea of how things work.
It's like with the different D&D settings, Forgotten Realms is very different from Ebberron in lore and feel even though both use the same mechanics. I need to have a bit of a feel for how the universe and the characters in it work. Currently we're also still very busy learning the game itself, with base building, enhancements, inventions, etc. I don't want to get involved in too many things at once. I'm still struggling with basic stuff, like the chat settings, UI layout, etc.. We'll get there in a few weeks. |
As for lore, there is this thread, and this thread, although both might be a tad out of date, and certainly doesn't include recent Praetorian and Well related developments. Although, to be honest, most people try to just ignore the well and pretend it doesn't exist.
If you need help base building, or want to see some bases, Id be happy to help, although you should be warned that it is a complex and byzantine system designed to weed out and crush the weak of will and spirit.
Also I remphasise the fact that you should totally talk to us on the channel, as a collective hive mind we are quite useful when it comes to answering questions, especially since quite a lot of the people who roleplay don't go on the forums that much.
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8/31 - Never Forget even more.
Certainly a laudable goal, but, as I said, Im not sure how good an impression youll be able to get reading the wiki, as quite a lot of the information is incomplete or lacking. Id say reading through the backlog of Last Night In D posts would be better (and not just because of my excellent summations), theoretically starting around when the thread was reactivated, which would be here. It does go back an exceedingly long way though.
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As for lore, there is this thread, and this thread, although both might be a tad out of date, and certainly doesn't include recent Praetorian and Well related developments. Although, to be honest, most people try to just ignore the well and pretend it doesn't exist. |
If you need help base building, or want to see some bases, Id be happy to help, although you should be warned that it is a complex and byzantine system designed to weed out and crush the weak of will and spirit. |
Also I remphasise the fact that you should totally talk to us on the channel, as a collective hive mind we are quite useful when it comes to answering questions, especially since quite a lot of the people who roleplay don't go on the forums that much. |
The well as originaly shown was just an energy source that everything unwittingly tapped into.
That was fine, it was the reason that heroes in CoH are Super heroes.
But then they made it sentient.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
Bear in mind a lot of these are probably out of date...
Claire is Lightning Kiss Venessa is, uh, Venessa. Don't confuse her with Venom. It annoys her Jake is Iron Anderson Rei is Yakuza Girl, and is quite closely tied with Lady Cobra |
I notice that quite a few characters can be multiple "toons" with different levels and powers. Is this a common thing, is there a RP reason behind it? for example Yakuza Girl /Rei.
Another question is if it's important to put the Real Name/Aliasses in the in-game description? Do people read that? I read it on almost any PC I encounter, if they have one.
First of all - like others have said - welcome to the game! I hope to be seeing you around.
To answer your question about multiple "toons" from my perspective, I would say that the original dual versions of Rei and Lady Cobra etc. were made due to game mechanics, i.e. to have a version that could move around in Paragon and another version for the Rogue Isles.
Since then I have made more versions and that was primarily either to try out new powersets or to have more costume slots for civilian outfits, ceremonial style costumes etc.
Personally, I don't really attach much, if any, RP importance to levels. Rei and Cobra are pretty much streetlevel "skilled normals" anyway, so the different versions are not intended to mean e.g. that they are supposed to be supremely skilled in all their Level 50 incarnations.
So, the only limitation I really feel bound by in the creation of alternate versions of these two characters is that their powers should be somehow explainable for a "skilled normal" I.e. you will probably not find an ice blaster Lady Cobra for instance.
As regards names in bios it can certainly be useful at least so people know that they are speaking to the same Rei even when the "toon" may be called e.g. Yakuza Girl.
I hope this answers your questions at least as regards my confusing number of alternate "toons" and apologise for the wall of text (your question prompted me to finally rediscover my log-in details that I have been unable to remember for a long time).
Another question is if it's important to put the Real Name/Aliasses in the in-game description? Do people read that? I read it on almost any PC I encounter, if they have one.
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As an example, the following is the in game info for my main:
((RP'er))
((Name: Shanna Connell. Age: 26 (but can pass for 18-19)
She speaks with a soft Irish accent, and has quite a nasty hand print shaped burn scar that covers most of her back, which she always keeps uncovered.
She is surrounded by a continuous aura of warmth.
She wears a pretty gold necklace with a pendant made with precious stones.))
I hope that's helpful
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#406785 - Assisting the PPD
On the multiple versions of a character thing, I too have a couple that started out purely because I wanted them to be able to run on both Blue and Red sides. Before GR and side-switching, obviously. I also run two accounts, and have versions of both Jake and Claire on each, so that I can bring them both to PD if the occasion demands.
This of course doesn't count alternate universe selves. Which several people have. Or future selves. Or clones. Or...
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
The well as originaly shown was just an energy source that everything unwittingly tapped into.
That was fine, it was the reason that heroes in CoH are Super heroes. But then they made it sentient. |
So;
The Well of Furies
(Thanks to Sylph_Knight on the Beta boards)
* The Well of the Furies is not unique. It is an amalgamation that represents the Force of Human Potential that manifests itself in the form of a spring, which was a representation of a resource and of relief to primitive humans. However, every race has their own version of the Well, supplying and absorbing their own respective Potentials in a continuous cycle. The Kheldians' equivalent is a perfect sphere of energy that represents their idealized form. * The Well's personality and ambitions change with time, and it enters periods of hibernation that can last for centuries. Every time it wakes up, its personality manifests differently based on the collective psyche of humanity in that era. In the current era, the Well craves and rewards those who seek power. Part of this is to survive against the Battalion but also because of how humanity has changed. * The Furies are not direct servants to the Well. There is no hierarchy between the two as the Furies have their own ideas and schemes. They were some of the first Incarnates ever created, representing ideals that the Well favored at the time. The Furies disagree with the Well's current methods due to its change in personality following its recent awakening and are acting independently of the Well. In other words - their power comes from the Well but they are not an integrated grouping. Also, Prometheus says the Furies do not appear as twisted monsters, unlike their servants. * Prometheus is part of an organization (he does not define this as a Race, as I recall) that monitors Forces of Potential like the Well of the Furies and can lead members of a race towards drawing more strength from their Force of Potential... or surpass it. * The Battalion are a race of Incarnates that have direct contact with their Force of Potential, allowing them to capture and feed the Forces of Potential belonging to other races to their own. This allows them to strip other races of their collective Potential and increase their own while leaving their defeated enemies as slaves with almost no ability remaining to resist. According to Prometheus, nearly a dozen races have already fallen to the Battalion to date. * There is a level beyond the Incarnate, in which an individual breaks free from their race's Force of Potential and becomes one unto themselves, wielding truly god-like powers. However, a being capable of doing so represents a massive portion of their race's own Potential and breaking free dramatically weakens their race's Force of Potential has a whole. In addition, Prometheus refuses to grant you the ability to achieve this level of power so long as the Battalion exists for this very reason, but also because he fears that if you are defeated then the Battalion's power will grow exponentially more than it has already. He also threatens to kill you if you attempt to reach this power and become a "rogue" Force of Potential. A separate branch of that same conversation reveals that he is privy to the idea of helping you ascend if you do manage to beat the Battalion with your current power as an Incarnate, however. * Rularuu is one such being that has become its own Force of Potential. While this part is not elaborated upon, I suspect his mission is not unlike the Battalion as he consumes whole worlds - possibly stealing the potential of all beings residing in them by consuming their Forces of Potential in the process. What Prometheus does confirm is that Rularuu is a rogue - a Force of Potential that is outside of their organization's observational control. * Twilight's Sun survived a future where the Kheldian's Force of Potential was consumed by linking himself to the Well of the Furies (Humanity's Force of Potential) to regain his lost powers. |
I have to admit, that puts me a lot more at rest with it all. I can deal with that.
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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First of all - like others have said - welcome to the game! I hope to be seeing you around.
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To answer your question about multiple "toons" from my perspective, I would say that the original dual versions of Rei and Lady Cobra etc. were made due to game mechanics, i.e. to have a version that could move around in Paragon and another version for the Rogue Isles. Since then I have made more versions and that was primarily either to try out new powersets or to have more costume slots for civilian outfits, ceremonial style costumes etc. Personally, I don't really attach much, if any, RP importance to levels. Rei and Cobra are pretty much streetlevel "skilled normals" anyway, so the different versions are not intended to mean e.g. that they are supposed to be supremely skilled in all their Level 50 incarnations. |
So, the only limitation I really feel bound by in the creation of alternate versions of these two characters is that their powers should be somehow explainable for a "skilled normal" I.e. you will probably not find an ice blaster Lady Cobra for instance. |
As regards names in bios it can certainly be useful at least so people know that they are speaking to the same Rei even when the "toon" may be called e.g. Yakuza Girl. |
I hope this answers your questions at least as regards my confusing number of alternate "toons" and apologise for the wall of text (your question prompted me to finally rediscover my log-in details that I have been unable to remember for a long time). |
And as I said earlier, I like walls of text, it gives me something to read during my lunch break.
Hey everyone,
I'm a new player, joined after Christmas. I was directed here to ask Union RP/Unionverse related questions.
I've started playing CoX with a few friends on Union, mainly Villains. We're pen-and-paper role-players and have played Mutants and Masterminds. So we do like creating proper characters and backgrounds and have found a venue for this in the Unionverse wiki.
I've been investigating Union RP to get a feel for how this works in an MMO. I've been reading the last few pages of the Pocked D thread on this forum for example. I've tried to find the names mentioned there in the Unionverse and that has led to a question.
I would like to know the distinction between a character and a NPC. I would assume characters to be those played by players, with NPCs being only background lore.
Now I run into a bit of a problem there, for example, one name that keeps being mentioned is Lucy, which I assume is Lucy Westerna, but in the wiki she's a NPC.
Can someone explain this to me? Maybe I've just got the wrong Lucy.
Secondly, is this the best forum to ask these questions? I know there is the in game global channel, but I prefer a forum for these kinds of things if possible, as it's easier to keep track of.
Thirdly, our Villains could maybe do with a fledgling Super Hero or Vigilante working against them. Would this be a place to to looking for one? (We're not going to make one ourselves, but it would make for much more interesting lore and role-playing.)
I have more questions, more about lore and proper backgrounds for characters, which I will ask if I get the general picture correct. Would this be a place to ask them?