I13 - Beating a dead horse

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Hello Devs!

I have been away for quite a long time since Issue 14 when I felt there was nothing else left in CoX but AE farms (Could hardly find any *normal* teams at the time), lack of lvl 50 content and a broken PvP. Now I'm loving this game again except for the PvP which I tried hard to enjoy but it's not the same fun either losing or wining.

You've spent many hours, days, weeks, months and years thinking and tweaking PvP. IMO this time could be used into developing new content instead.

So let's remember why there are so many changes with I13:

1 - People whined too much.

And you tried to change PvP, nerf it, boost that, try to balance it and that until you gave up but everyone is still whining! Listening to everyone with different options can be troublesome.

Just leave it like the old Issue 6 days, pretty much like PvE except minor NEEDED changes like mez suppression, people can't 1 shot anyone (i7 change I think), brutes earn fury much faster and so on. We had many different classes with different powersets PvPing at the time and it was much more fun, I have never played FoTMs and got my *** kicked many times by a variety of different classes on different toons, that was fun. I am not really sure about IO sets within this PvP system.

Couldn't you make it like an event? Open Sirens Call or Bloody Bay to these old rules and see how successful are these changes?

I remember there were so many changes before I13, many fail-attempts that made nonsense, defense was godlike today and useless tomorrow, felt like we were playing a beta game.

Keeping things simple sometimes is a better option.

Would be fun to see a new zone get the 'lets see what we got' version that week or month.

Great way to test out changes they want to make without it being permanent. Great way for the player base to see what's up, and give their input. Great way to see by how many use the zone that month if they are on to something yes or no. Alternate between Siren's Call, Bloody Bay, Warburg, Recluse's Victory and even set it to the Arena as an option to play under those rules.

No HD, No TS week in RV would be pretty sweet.

guy above me i don't think you actually know what a necro post is.

yes please old school pvp rules(pve rules) in a new pvp zone or one of the old ones i'm easy either way.

*Reads title: I13 - Beating a dead horse

*Reads first line:
[QUOTE=Z_e_r_o_NA;4041658]You've read 1000x posts like this before[QUOTE]

Looks like post/thread/subject necromancy to me, it even has that fresh undead smell.

tbh I miss things like my storm controllers or kins being good in the arena more than I miss zone PvP w/o TS and HD, but I know I'm the minority there.

Here is an idea - people who pay for the game...get hd/ts off.

I mostly miss the zone PvP, just grab a random toon and go there and have some fun.

Been trying to actually find the PvP on Virtue these days, only real action I could find was RV and that's a shame, SC and Warburg used to be very fun! I would often find SC crowded with tons of people.

And the action I found in RV was kinda lame, seemed like everyone was using the same AT with the same set of powers.

I can't see the reason of why there are hardly anyone pvping now a days but all the changes since i13 since apparently CoX has a larger playerbase now than before, I would rarely see a server going yellow and red back then.

Had a lot of fun with some chars those were never meant to be a fotm pvper such as my Em/Stone brute in SC, kin/sonic defender, spines/SR stalker, ice/ice blaster, mind/psy dom, archery/em blaster, MA/Invul scrapper, Cold/fire corruptor and ice/fire tanker. Also had a few "OP" ones mostly for arenas like Ill/Rad and Ice/Storm.

I got so many kills on my Cold/Fire corruptor in Warburg I used to lol at people rage quitting the zone because supposedly corruptors were op. FS + Sonic Nuke on MMs on my Defender? Priceless! I got a few MMs this way, that was VERY funny. Also I had all the toons above with reputation maxxed out at least once.

Now it feels like we need a char specifically built for PvP, it was much more casual friendly back a few years.

Hell, I wouldn't mind having bloody bay as a ruleless PvP zone, at least there will be someone to play with...

I never really pvp'd much but didn't mind it too much.


Really just needs to have an objective-based pvp...like capture the flag, hold this point, something other than "kill someone" pvp for someone like me to get into it.

Edit:

Hence, why I liked the SG base raids more than zone pvp (or arena pvp).

Woooooooooooooooooo ChaosAngelGeno quoted me. I'm a nobody and I got quoted in a sig yaaaay. This officially validates my self worth and if at any time in the future he changes his sig and removes my quote I will drop everything and commit Seppuku because my honor is lost, death before dishonor.

Oh wait there's a thread topic here... um... yes recalc DR numbers so that when I'm on my sonic/sonic Def and pass out +Resist shields, they ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING for the squishies instead of being murdered by ridiculous DR numbers and epic armors granting +Res to all. I mean not that I don't like a PvP mechanic that completely invalidates the buffing potential I usually wield in PvE but... ... ...no wait yeah I don't like that at all. Sorry, unless I'm buffing a Regen Scrap in Sirens, cus then I make them Jesus, good thing every Scrap is Regen or I might feel more useless than I already do. Oh well I guess making some powers useless is the only way for the Devs to please the people who aren't me and stop the whining... except people still whine.

Lol Necro thread. Lol Necro Om Nom Nomicon. I belong here...