Wow pretty surprising results. You are supplying half the pvpers on your own! (jk) I wonder how much these results would change if you had 10,000 samples.
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now that is some serious PvP farming right there
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Here is a list of the (931) PvP IOs I've gotten recently,
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Seriously.
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931 !!!!! WTF ??!!! How did you do that ????!! 
Using current market values, what would the total amount be for all the recipes? And how much time did it take to collect all the recipes? Just wondering what the drop rate/time was and how much you could have made.
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I expect the numbers would be comparable, just larger. Sure I may be off by 1 in some of my weights, but more than that is unlikely. Of course it could turn out that the weights are 1-5 or maybe 1-3, but that just doesn't seem to fit the numbers. The highest number of drops is not the average number for the highest weight, it's the highest number of drops for the highest weight. The average for the highest weight will likely be a bit lower. Similarly, the average for the lowest weight will likely be a bit higher than the lowest number of drops. That puts the lowest weight at around 8-9 drops on average and the highest around 30. The weights probably aren't 1-5 if that's the case. A range of 1-3 is more likely than 1-5, but that has problems at the lower range. A range of 1-3 would mean average drops of around 10, 20, and 30. The drops near the bottom are 7, 7, 8, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14, 15, 15, 15, 16. That's a bit too sparse in the 10-13 range, and too heavy in the 14-16 range. Granted I could be like a typical human, finding patterns where none exist.|
Originally Posted by Madame Pistacio
Wow pretty surprising results. You are supplying half the pvpers on your own! (jk) I wonder how much these results would change if you had 10,000 samples.
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As to farming that many, Spin and Lightning Field hit 10 targets. If you defeat 10 targets every 5 minutes on the dot, that's 2880 defeats per day. At a 1% drop rate, that's 28 recipes on average per day. Freedom went live on Sept 13, so it's been about 90 days. Of course you can't defeat mobs every 5 minutes on the dot, plus there's downtime, plus crashes, plus actually playing, plus time to level up the targets, etc.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
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As to farming that many, Spin and Lightning Field hit 10 targets. If you defeat 10 targets every 5 minutes on the dot, that's 2880 defeats per day. At a 1% drop rate, that's 28 recipes on average per day. Freedom went live on Sept 13, so it's been about 90 days. Of course you can't defeat mobs every 5 minutes on the dot, plus there's downtime, plus crashes, plus actually playing, plus time to level up the targets, etc.
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I am more amazed of how many accounts you can run. My main rig which is a custom Sandy build can only handle 4 instances of COH running on it simultaneously, but if I fire up the old rig could handle a few more but then my connection seems to get irritable and frequently loses connection despite having more than enough BW.
Also amazed a farm that size is not constantly found/targeted by some Pvp'r. Must be super dead server.
People use multiple accounts to get the PvP rewards.....Brilliant... 
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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People have been doing that for awhile, its the only reason things like the 3% Def PvP proc became buyable at all. It never occurred to me to use AoEs and 11 accounts, however (not that I have enough need or computer power to do something like this, I just bought the few I have slotted on the market). Before Freedom it would have cost ~$160/month, depending on subscription length, to do this, which I suspect is beyond what even the most enthusiastic CoHer would have been willing to spend. |
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People use multiple accounts to get the PvP rewards.....Brilliant...
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My bet is that (1) TopDoc uses multiple computers, and (2) turns the graphics down WAY below what most folks would find acceptable playing. You don't really care about particle counts or shadow rendering for something like this.
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Using current market values, what would the total amount be for all the recipes? And how much time did it take to collect all the recipes? Just wondering what the drop rate/time was and how much you could have made.
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Thought the PvP cool down was every 10 min?
I am more amazed of how many accounts you can run. My main rig which is a custom Sandy build can only handle 4 instances of COH running on it simultaneously, but if I fire up the old rig could handle a few more but then my connection seems to get irritable and frequently loses connection despite having more than enough BW. Also amazed a farm that size is not constantly found/targeted by some Pvp'r. Must be super dead server. |
Graphics at the "Minimum" graphics quality, but that's about it. I use a single machine, but it's one I bought last year for Christmas so it's fairly new. Quad core Intel, 12 GB of RAM, GeForce GTS 240 graphics card. Running with "/maxinactivefps 1", the CPU usage for all of the CoH clients is usually 0%. I've got a surprisingly stable cable modem network connection through Comcast.
Never seen another PvPer where I am.
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People have been doing that for awhile, its the only reason things like the 3% Def PvP proc became buyable at all. It never occurred to me to use AoEs and 11 accounts, however (not that I have enough need or computer power to do something like this, I just bought the few I have slotted on the market). Before Freedom it would have cost ~$160/month, depending on subscription length, to do this, which I suspect is beyond what even the most enthusiastic CoHer would have been willing to spend.
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Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304
There is a 5 minute cool down per target, you can only get a drop or rep once on the same target every 5 minutes.
There is a 10 minute recipe cool down. Once you get a recipe, you are ineligible for 10 minutes.
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Doc, I would like to thank you for fighting inflation by singlehandedly taking an enormous amount of inf out of the game, both in Wentfees and in "more than I can easily spend" ownership.
Also, that's a pretty amazing feat you've accomplished.
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Thanks for the info, TopDoc. Impressive, as always.
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As always good info Doc!
I was going to PM you last week to ask if you found any issues with purple drops (Hadn't gotten one in 70 farms set to 8 after the patch before last) but didn't know if you were still playing, now I see what you've been up to!
The cynical side of me thinks with the timers and CoX going F2P we're quietly being encouraged to create as many accounts as our rigs can handle and farm for PvP recipes.
I guess I know what I'll be doing in game for the next couple of weeks...
Who do I have to *&^% around here to get more Targeted AoE recipes added?
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Doc is really a doctor of economics! I must start doing this with more accounts anyhow... Since I have 6 usable computers that can easily run 3, if not 4 CoH Cilents that I can leave on 24/7.
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I was lucky to PL one toon to 50 over the past week and can barely find time to play him, let alone roll up 10 free accounts, PL them up to 50, and then log everything in to PVP farm.
More power to you, this is awesome.
You don't need to PL the targets up to 50. Just high enough to get a fast recharging self-rez and get into your zone of choice. The level of the attacker determines the level of the recipe.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
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Here is a list of the PvP IOs I've gotten recently, along with the estimated drop weight. I believe in the old Rare Recipe Weight project someone claimed Synapse had said that weights were 1-5. However this really looks more like 1-4, so that's what I'll use. The lowest ones are 7,7,8,8,9, while the highest are 28, 28, 30, 33. Each weight looks to be worth about 8 drops, so I'll go with the following...
Weight 1: 4-11 drops, 2: 12-19 drops, 3: 20-27 drops, 4: 28-35 drops
Set Name I/O Drop Weight Fury of the Gladiator A/D/E/R 15 2 Tot: 101 A/E/R 16 2 Tot Wt: 14 Proc 8 1 D/A 30 4 D/E/R 19 2 D/R 23 3 Gladiator's Armor E/Rch 20 3 Tot: 109 Res 20 3 Tot Wt: 15 Res/E 23 3 R/E/R 12 2 R/R 27 3 Proc 7 1 Gladiator's Javelin A/D/E/R 9 1 Tot: 112 A/E/R 16 2 Tot Wt: 14 Proc 22 3 D/A 21 3 D/E/R 25 3 D/R 19 2 Gladiator's Net A/E/R/H 22 3 Tot: 111 A/H 18 2 Tot Wt: 14 A/R 7 1 Proc 14 2 E/R/H 24 3 R/H 26 3 Gladiator's Strike A/D/E/R 17 2 Tot: 133 A/E/R 13 2 Tot Wt: 16 Proc 22 3 D/A 24 3 D/E/R 19 2 D/R 28 4 Javelin Volley A/D/E/R 15 2 Tot: 117 A/E/R 14 2 Tot Wt: 15 Proc 21 3 D/A 24 3 D/E/R 25 3 D/R 18 2 Panacea Proc 8 1 Tot: 126 E/R 28 4 Tot Wt: 16 H 21 3 H/E 25 3 H/E/R 18 2 H/R 26 3 Shield Wall D 18 2 Tot: 122 D/E 26 3 Tot Wt: 14 D/E/R 15 2 D/R 19 2 E/R 33 4 Proc 11 1 Grand Total: 931 Grand Total Wt: 118Some of the sets are easy to understand. The Glad Armor proc is 1, the R/E/R triple is 2, and the rest are 3. Shield Wall is similar, except the D and D/R are weight 2 while the E/R is 4. That E/R doesn't make much sense. Panacea similarly has a strange weight 4 E/R. Glad Javelin is 2s and 3s, but 1 for the quad. That's fine, but none of the other damage set quads have a weight of 1. If anyone has some insights as to why some of these weights were set this way, I'd like to hear them.
I never bothered keeping track of the drop rate per kill, but I think it's around 1%. But I did keep track of Incarnate Shards. I earned 2206 Shards while earning those 931 Recipes. That comes out to about 2.37 shards/recipe. If the recipe drop chance really is 1%, I'd round off the Shard drop rate to 2.5%.
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish.
I've moved on to Diablo 3, TopDoc-1304