Your name - IN GOLD!
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-11-30 11:35 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Ulli in the house!
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Originally Posted by MTS
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There are no words for what this community, and the friends I have made here mean to me. Please know that I care for all of you, yes, even you. If you Twitter, I'm MrThan. If you're Unleashed, I'm dumps. I'll try and get registered on the Titan Forums as well. Peace, and thanks for the best nine years anyone could ever ask for.
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Z, I find that fingernails actually deter motivation. If said manager doesn't have good news by next meeting, I suggest you start removing his/her fingernails with a pair of pliers. Trust me, you will see an INSTANT increase in motivation.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
The log out issue is definitely a priority for us here at Paragon, and the web team in Seattle is working on it. This goes on a list of things such as getting the character copy tool working and fixing the Hero skin.
I've been meeting with the manager of the web team every week. This issue is not falling by the wayside as we continue to communicate it as a priority. |
Note: Does not appear to work on cats.
"I do so love taking a nice, well thought out character and putting them through hell. It's like tossing a Faberge Egg onto the stage during a Gallagher concert." - me
@Palador / @Rabid Unicorn
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Zworiginalpancakehouse's pliers aren't long enough to reach to Seattle and have the accuracy to get the right persons fingernails.
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Originally Posted by Rabid_M
Z, I find that fingernails actually deter motivation. If said manager doesn't have good news by next meeting, I suggest you start removing his/her fingernails with a pair of pliers. Trust me, you will see an INSTANT increase in motivation.
Note: Does not appear to work on cats. |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Last I understood, the analysis from the outside was that we weren't actually being 'logged out', the cookie that holds session info is being actively deleted. But if the cookie is manually re-inserted, the session continues just fine.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
The log out issue is definitely a priority for us here at Paragon, and the web team in Seattle is working on it. This goes on a list of things such as getting the character copy tool working and fixing the Hero skin.
I've been meeting with the manager of the web team every week. This issue is not falling by the wayside as we continue to communicate it as a priority. |
It's those spurious 'delete cookie' instructions from the server that's the problem.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Softcapping an Invuln is fantastic. Softcapping a Willpower is amazing. Softcapping SR is kissing your sister.
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Apologies. I read "maintenance," took it in good faith and assumed in-game maintenance.
I still want the Helper/Help Me! colours removed, however.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Seriously? That still means I've got to log in every single day. I could accept 24 hours but honestly this is the only website I know that has an 8 hour expiry time on cookies.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
The cookie has been set to 8 hours of inactivity AFAIK. This is as far out as it will be set.
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Nah, I wouldn't ask you to not comment even if I could. I've just stopped seeing it as a joking matter, it's been way too bleedin' long for funny.
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Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
If you mean I should quit complaining about the forum logout bug, I'm pretty much out of it as is. I only do so when I see a thread or post commenting on it. Sorry.
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@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
You can have my name in gold but do we still get to keep our forum titles? I lost my unique title when the EU and NA forums merged but some people have worked hard to gain those titles and it would be a shame to see them replaced with a generic 'VIP'.
I certainly don't feel like a VIP these days so I'd rather remain as a Legend thanks.
@Dante EU - Union Roleplayer and Altisis Victim
The Militia: Union RP Supergroup - www.themilitia.org.uk
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. I didn't use the Gold name before because it would have meant changing my forum title and I really didn't like the thought if being simply "VIP".|
Originally Posted by Dante
You can have my name in gold but do we still get to keep our forum titles? I lost my unique title when the EU and NA forums merged but some people have worked hard to gain those titles and it would be a shame to see them replaced with a generic 'VIP'.
I certainly don't feel like a VIP these days so I'd rather remain as a Legend thanks. |
I'm not really sure what mine is currently, but I'd rather have it than "VIP".
EDIT: Ah, Renowned. I'll stick with that thank you very much.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Sounds like the load sharing issue, not the cookie issue
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Might want to check that, then. Seems to be more like 8 minutes, not hours...
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Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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Yeah, that's a little weird. Most websites I visit have an expiration time measured in days or even months. I wonder why they want such a short time on it, it's not like it uses server resources to have a cookie on our computers.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Seriously? That still means I've got to log in every single day. I could accept 24 hours but honestly this is the only website I know that has an 8 hour expiry time on cookies.
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Please try my custom mission arcs!
Legacy of a Rogue (ID 459586, Entry for Dr. Aeon's Third Challenge)
Death for Dollars! (ID 1050)
Dr. Duplicate's Dastardly Dare (ID 1218)
Win the Past, Own the Future (ID 1429)
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Apparently there is some issue with vBulletin nd how they have it set up here *shrug*
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Originally Posted by Liquid
Yeah, that's a little weird. Most websites I visit have an expiration time measured in days or even months. I wonder why they want such a short time on it, it's not like it uses server resources to have a cookie on our computers.
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Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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I've it set to show me as VIP and I have my title (Forum Cartel)
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I didn't use the Gold name before because it would have meant changing my forum title and I really didn't like the thought if being simply "VIP".
I'm not really sure what mine is currently, but I'd rather have it than "VIP". EDIT: Ah, Renowned. I'll stick with that thank you very much. |
Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
www.repeat-offenders.net
Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
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That's the other issue, the random logout bug.
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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa
Apparently there is some issue with vBulletin nd how they have it set up here *shrug*
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Please try my custom mission arcs!
Legacy of a Rogue (ID 459586, Entry for Dr. Aeon's Third Challenge)
Death for Dollars! (ID 1050)
Dr. Duplicate's Dastardly Dare (ID 1218)
Win the Past, Own the Future (ID 1429)
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I hear you, and I understand what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate; we also tie your forum account to your game account, which is why we want to err on the side of security in this case.
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Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
Seriously? That still means I've got to log in every single day. I could accept 24 hours but honestly this is the only website I know that has an 8 hour expiry time on cookies.
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Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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I made that change in anticipation of this complaint. Cause, you know, titles are important |
Originally Posted by Texas Justice
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I didn't use the Gold name before because it would have meant changing my forum title and I really didn't like the thought if being simply "VIP".
I'm not really sure what mine is currently, but I'd rather have it than "VIP". EDIT: Ah, Renowned. I'll stick with that thank you very much. |
. Love you guys
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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I was wondering as to the motivation.|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I hear you, and I understand what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate; we also tie your forum account to your game account, which is why we want to err on the side of security in this case.
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But to play devil's advocate to your devil's advocate...
Is retyping my account password every 8 hours into a browser that could possibly be compromised by malware and re-sending it across the network more or less secure than using a cookie with an ID token to keep me logged in forever?
If somebody steals my session, what's the worst they can do? Troll the forums and get me banned? Copy my characters to the test server?
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It's a fair point but on the other hand once a computer is logged into the forums the only thing that does is grant forum access. If I want to make actual account changes I have to log into the NCSoft site whether I'm logged into the forums or not. Someone getting access to the forums can't actually do any harm to my game account; I guess they could get me banned from the forums but they can't do anything involving actual money.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I hear you, and I understand what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate; we also tie your forum account to your game account, which is why we want to err on the side of security in this case.
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You guys are right, there's a bit of back and forth there as well. Point is, I made all of these arguments to our Web Security/Web team and a compromise and decision had to be come to.
In my eyes, it's not ideal, personally I'd prefer it so that you had to log in once a week at most, but it's not as extreme as some other MMO Communities impose on their players.
Andy Belford
Community Manager
Paragon Studios
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Well at least it's not an ego issue. I kid. Thursday is D-Day. I hope all this forum-issues nonsense can be put behind us after that maintenance.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
EDIT: Ah, Renowned. I'll stick with that thank you very much.
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I totally understand and absolutely agree here. Of course I take security very seriously... I have firefox set to be in permanent private browsing mode. I don't want anything to be saved in temp files.. if I want it saved I'll bookmark it. And I have a separate password for every site I log in to, so while I know remembering several dozen passwords can be difficult, I just don't trust anything. Look at how many sites have been hacked (Steam, Sony, etc). And who knows, someone at some company you do business with may not be so honest, and may use your email address and password to try to log into as many sites as they can think of. Why risk it? So you can save a few seconds entering your credentials? |
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I hear you, and I understand what you're saying, but to play devil's advocate; we also tie your forum account to your game account, which is why we want to err on the side of security in this case.
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While I understand wanting the cookie bug fixed, the idea of permanent login just boggles my mind.
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So I have to log in once in the morning and once in the evening or, in other words, every single time I visit the forums. *sigh*|
Originally Posted by Zwillinger
The cookie has been set to 8 hours of inactivity AFAIK. This is as far out as it will be set.
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The COH forums are not Fort Knox. They're not my bank account. They're not even Twitter or Facebook. Why can't the cookies be set to expire every 30 days like a more normal website?
As it is, every single time I visit the COH forums I think "Oh crap, not this again. When are the gonna fix this !@#$% bug?!?" That's probably not the takeaway your marketing group wants for VIPs to have while visiting the web site.
-Buxley
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." -- Dr. Seuss
^ It's even worse if you access from multiple locations like me. I have my home PC, my work PC, my many smartphones and several tablet PC's. I have to relogin every time on each one, and some of them I have to login 3 - 6 times in a row before it will actually stick... Until I post and it unsticks again...
It's garbage... My 11 year old could setup forums better, and that's no exaggeration.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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But it's hooked to your game account. Which may or may not have a credit card hooked up to it. Which may or may not be a debit card directly hooked into your bank account.|
Originally Posted by Buxley1
The COH forums are not Fort Knox. They're not my bank account.
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Do you REALLY want to accidentally grant some scumbag unfettered access to your account for 30 days? Note, the cookie would still work for them even if you changed your account password can.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
Now, if I close the browser and open it back up, I'm logged out and Remember Me doesn't Remember Me. Luckily, I have some addons that remember form data. It's rather quick to get logged in.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.