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Female Mastermind Pets Suggestion

2short2care

By 2short2care,
Posted on: 2011-11-23 15:48 in Masterminds

 

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Originally Posted by EvilRyu View Post
I think the whole thing is a double standard. While there is the issue of a male mastermind abusing his henchwomen, how is ok for a female mastermind to abuse or be abused by their henchmen? To me it looks worse for the female mastermind to be gang banged by the henchmen. What works for one can work for the other. The devs need to stop with this double standard approach.
Agreed.

 

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For a long time, I have been an advocate for Masterminds having greater customization for their pets. We should be able to create individual costumes for our pets, or at least have a choice from several options like weapon-based characters do. Or, at the very least be able to change the colors of their costumes.

But, all we ever hear are excuses why it can't be done or why it hasn't been done yet.

Enough of the politically correct BS and let us have some choices. Just because some people *might* abuse something does not mean that there isn't a way to make it work. Come to think of it, doesn't the player base already do a decent job of reporting copyright infringement and other stuff that is an obvious violation of the EULA? I am sure that the players could manage sending off petitions for people who abuse their pets too much.

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Originally Posted by DrGemini View Post
For a long time, I have been an advocate for Masterminds having greater customization for their pets. We should be able to create individual costumes for our pets, or at least have a choice from several options like weapon-based characters do. Or, at the very least be able to change the colors of their costumes.

But, all we ever hear are excuses why it can't be done or why it hasn't been done yet.

Enough of the politically correct BS and let us have some choices. Just because some people *might* abuse something does not mean that there isn't a way to make it work. Come to think of it, doesn't the player base already do a decent job of reporting copyright infringement and other stuff that is an obvious violation of the EULA? I am sure that the players could manage sending off petitions for people who abuse their pets too much.
Exactly!

 

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I'd be willing to bet that political correctness is just an easy excuse to not put the time in. I don't mean to say that the Dev's are "just lazy", but it's a pretty convenient argument when you consider all the things people are typically clamoring for. If this game has another decade of life in it, that pallet's probably already easily filled before we take pet customization into account.

All of that said, I would like to see it happen. No, scratch that, I would like to see it happen without having to purchase it through the Paragon market, since MM's are now reserved for longtime player's, VIP's and freebies that pay for the AT. Well, that and the Market is looking more and more lopsided as is.

 

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Originally Posted by Mordakar View Post
I'd be willing to bet that political correctness is just an easy excuse to not put the time in. I don't mean to say that the Dev's are "just lazy", but it's a pretty convenient argument when you consider all the things people are typically clamoring for. If this game has another decade of life in it, that pallet's probably already easily filled before we take pet customization into account.

All of that said, I would like to see it happen. No, scratch that, I would like to see it happen without having to purchase it through the Paragon market, since MM's are now reserved for longtime player's, VIP's and freebies that pay for the AT. Well, that and the Market is looking more and more lopsided as is.
They do seem to be strapped for art resources. But.... then why not just make it a pay per content thing? I'm sure nearly everyone who frequents this forum would jump at the chance and shell over the appropriate quantity of cash.

One problem is how to address all 6 MM Power Set's. Demons, Bots, and to a lesser degree Zombies require more than just costume designs on a basic character model. For the others, I'd love to see them hold a costume contest for it. "Henchmen themes", and then give out some swag to the winners in exchange for the right to use their design.

 

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Originally Posted by Berzerker_NA View Post
They do seem to be strapped for art resources. But.... then why not just make it a pay per content thing? I'm sure nearly everyone who frequents this forum would jump at the chance and shell over the appropriate quantity of cash.

One problem is how to address all 6 MM Power Set's. Demons, Bots, and to a lesser degree Zombies require more than just costume designs on a basic character model. For the others, I'd love to see them hold a costume contest for it. "Henchmen themes", and then give out some swag to the winners in exchange for the right to use their design.
They don't even have to go for entirely new designs, since there are so many different styles out there already in their databases that we fight on a daily basis. But I do like the costume contest ideas.

 

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Two words for this whole 'female pet' idea:

Amazon. Women.

This...is...so....Right!

The Myth to Amazon women is a varied one in which yours could be good or bad, so alignments can vary. The only thing is that they might be alot like a Ninja MM.

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But.... then why not just make it a pay per content thing? I'm sure nearly everyone who frequents this forum would jump at the chance and shell over the appropriate quantity of cash.
No. I specifically addressed this for a reason earlier. If you can play Masterminds at all, you've already handed over some money one way or another.

It's more a personal thing, as I'm positive if it went up in the market, people would pay. I'm just getting tired of being asked to pay extra for things I feel should already be obtainable in game. Extra enhancement inventory, a way to unslot enhancements that doesn't require a respec, etc.

Mastermind primaries were left out of power customization almost entirely as is. Since this idea revolves around using already existing assets, I'd be extremely turned off if suddenly we were asked to pay a premium to reskin pets.

 

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No. I specifically addressed this for a reason earlier. If you can play Masterminds at all, you've already handed over some money one way or another.

It's more a personal thing, as I'm positive if it went up in the market, people would pay. I'm just getting tired of being asked to pay extra for things I feel should already be obtainable in game. Extra enhancement inventory, a way to unslot enhancements that doesn't require a respec, etc.

Mastermind primaries were left out of power customization almost entirely as is. Since this idea revolves around using already existing assets, I'd be extremely turned off if suddenly we were asked to pay a premium to reskin pets.
Agreed. I've seen some slight customization on the Demon pets, but that's about it (the fires on them). Of all the classes, they have the least customization (aside from the Epic classes) and yet when we ask for some form of customization, whether it's to add female types, or to colour tint things/have different costumes for our minions, it gets shot down so fast some of us are left wondering if they can read minds and already knew our questions.

 

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Originally Posted by Mordakar View Post
No. I specifically addressed this for a reason earlier. If you can play Masterminds at all, you've already handed over some money one way or another.

It's more a personal thing, as I'm positive if it went up in the market, people would pay. I'm just getting tired of being asked to pay extra for things I feel should already be obtainable in game. Extra enhancement inventory, a way to unslot enhancements that doesn't require a respec, etc.

Mastermind primaries were left out of power customization almost entirely as is. Since this idea revolves around using already existing assets, I'd be extremely turned off if suddenly we were asked to pay a premium to reskin pets.
The problem is it's an old game. Development costs are easy to cover when there's a huge subscriber base because you're only eating up a couple cents per player of their subscriber fee when you hire a graphical artist to make some new images. However, good artists artists don't work for cheap. They know what they've got to offer and they charge accordingly.

At this late point in the game's life, you're just going to have to accept that new art is just plain always going to carry a new fee. 1/14th of the player base (MM's are just one of the 14 AT's out there) isn't going to be enough to support it.

 

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The problem is it's an old game. Development costs are easy to cover when there's a huge subscriber base because you're only eating up a couple cents per player of their subscriber fee when you hire a graphical artist to make some new images. However, good artists artists don't work for cheap. They know what they've got to offer and they charge accordingly.

At this late point in the game's life, you're just going to have to accept that new art is just plain always going to carry a new fee. 1/14th of the player base (MM's are just one of the 14 AT's out there) isn't going to be enough to support it.
Already existing assets. It's been said over and over in this thread already. What about that requires huge sums of artist or development costs? Not that I'm suggesting anything is "easy" to do when it comes to developing a AAA MMO title, but we're not talking about sweeping changes that should require a hell of a lot in the way of development costs, particularly with assets like AE in place, where players can already customize and store their own villain groups for story arcs. What we're talking about here is something already in place ported in some way or another to Masterminds in the way of pet customization.

 

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Good point. They could bring in someone with no technical skills at all to do that, and probably pay them the same as a QA tester makes. It's definitely silly not to do things that would make the player base very happy and not cost much money in the process.

I was thinking more about Demons, in particular. As it stands, they don't even have upgrade appearance changes yet (they look the same before and after Abyssal Empowerment and Enchant). The only mob I can think of that even looks close to them would be the COT guys. Bots also kind of push the limit, but at least it's possible to make bot-like sets using existing costume mechanics.

 

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All I've got to say is far as equality on gender occupations for master mind minions is concerned, the master minds need to hirer females. I'm sure there are several Paragon and Rogue Isles labor laws that are being broken with not having the ability to hirer the qualified females to work for them.
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I think that KoA would make for a good female ninja equivalent, with their sneaky-sneaky schtick. The female Crey infiltrators would make good merc equivalents. Robots are... well, neutral in design.

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Thanks everyone who's replied so far! I'd love it if we could get more people behind this, so if you happen to know of anyone who's agreed with this, or thought this would be a good idea...think you could send them this way?

The more people we have behind this, the more they will see that this is not a one off, that people actually would like to see this happen.

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I'm for it.

Totally for it.

Should've been introduced into the game that way.

 

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100% wholeheartedly support female MM pets. Heck, even my angry side supports it, so put me in for 200%. This is a feature I'd instantly shell out $15 or even $20 for if it came with the option to customize the colors on the different pets.

As for the potential abuse issue, there's really not much in this game or ANY mmorpg that doesn't have potential for abuse. I think this game is pretty well-policed as it is, and I'm pretty sure when the inevitable person crossed the line of good taste and/or humor, it would be reported and dealt with effectively.

And Amazons with a tier 3 sporting a Titan Weapon? Nothing but WIN all day long.

 

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I support Female MMs. Especially Carnies can you imagine them as pets as powerful as they are! O.o

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I'm totally for this. But then again, I'm totally for Clown pets, too!

Thanks!
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-Give us a drop down option to switch between male/female with the powers.
-Have set skins for both genders, if able to, give some sort of colour tinting.
Examples of what could be used for the pets, or as base suggestions:
Thugs- Rocket Girls
Mercs- Knives of Artemis style?
Robots- either keep them gender neutral, or the Victorias from Praet
Zombies- um....do they even have a gender anymore?
Ninjas- Use the sliders to make them more feminine
Demons- Girlfriends from Hell, or just keep them the same/different colour?
-At least give us the option to see the product, instead of assuming that people will get up in arms and begin to form a mob to storm Paragon Studios.

Thanks for your time. This is something that I feel really strongly about.
If the drop down menu is per minion that would be best

really, if and when we finally get customizable minions, I'd like to see females be an option

and hopefully tasteful females for the most part...

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I support Female MMs. Especially Carnies can you imagine them as pets as powerful as they are! O.o
Oh my gaw yes.

When I found out that Carnival troops could be earned through the incarnate system I was stoked. I fully intend to have an all female-or-genderless minion master, and since I have my robots, I just gotta make sure I unlock my alpha slot and get a bunch of psycho xp.

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I demand that this happens. MMs are such a sausage-fest.