Excellent though I hope this doesn't rule out someday getting Dark Miasma as a secondary.
I wonder if this is the 'something special' that was mentioned.
Correction: I suspect this is the 'something special' that was mentioned.
Correction: I worry this is the 'something special' that was mentioned.
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Only Dark CONTROL? Or also an assault set to go with it (for Doms)?
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I was watching the Ustream of the Player summit, and the Devs have OFFICIALLY announced Dark Control... and it'll be FREE for VIPs!
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Correction: I worry that some players think the game needs to be specifically tailored to their own individual needs and perhaps maybe should learn to set realistic expectations.|
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I wonder if this is the 'something special' that was mentioned.
Correction: I suspect this is the 'something special' that was mentioned. Correction: I worry this is the 'something special' that was mentioned. |
Dark Control sounds like it could be awesomesauce.
I will probably play it, but I'd be stretching to call this concept "exciting" for me. IMO another phoned in aesthetic already covered extensively elsewhere (in literally EVERY other AT, just like Electric was).
I would guess that Dark will have a "special mechanic" that'll be tacked on atop the normal Immob/hold/aoe immob/aoe hold/pet dealie-o. How good the set is depends on that extra mechanic. We'll likely see -ToHit on most abilities, maybe a fear power akin to Terrorize. *shrugs*
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Allied to all sides so that no matter what, I'll come out on top!
Oh, and Crimson demands you play this arc-> Twisted Knives (MA Arc #397769)
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Correction: I worry that some players think the game needs to be specifically tailored to their own individual needs and perhaps maybe should learn to set realistic expectations.
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What forum is this thread on?
Might it be that it's not 'something special' for doms if it is, in fact, coming for controllers as well? And that it's not 'something special' and is in fact just 'something?' Perhaps even 'anything?'
Dark Control could be fine. Could be fun. It's still not what we were told was coming, or, if it is, I feel as if communication has been deliberately manipulative towards a subgroup of the community. That worries me. It worries me that there's an outside possibility that a small segment of the population that represents a whole archetype is now considered small enough that we're relatively ignorable.
Steering the thread away from Dominator matters...
What do you think we'll see in Dark Control? Tohit debuffs are almost certain. Fear is very likely. Will Dark Servant be the pet? If so it might be the most supportive of Control pets, I believe (a heal, tohit debuffs, and some controls of its own).
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Dark Control sounds like it could be awesomesauce.
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Steering the thread away from Dominator matters...
What do you think we'll see in Dark Control? Tohit debuffs are almost certain. Fear is very likely. Will Dark Servant be the pet? If so it might be the most supportive of Control pets, I believe (a heal, tohit debuffs, and some controls of its own). |
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
New dark art for the dark control (no tentacles! 
) and new lovely, lovely pets. In a separate panel we were told all the tentative powers/effects of the set excluding the final. So much more interested in this set than bo-staff or titan (both of which were also discussed)
@artphobia
To the best dev team ever: I enjoyed meeting you all at the Summits and best of luck in all your future endeavors.
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Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
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lovely pets.
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"Yes, winning all the time can be boring."
-Knight_Chill
"It's amazing how well you can put up with endurance issues if you hide them under a large enough pile of bodies."
-Spiritchaser speaking on Dom Revamp
The pets better not be as bad as gremlins from Elec Control *grumble*.
GIVE ME THE NEW SHIN...er...OILINESSES??!!?!!?? Whatevs, I wants the new stuff so I can excuse myself to buy more character slots :P
In addition to Dark Control, Controller will get /Dark Affinity.
It is basically Dark Miasma with Fearsome Stare and Petrifying Gaze removed. One of the replacement powers was a team wide high magnitude, short duration Defense buff (the comparison used was to Moment of Glory) but I forget the other.
This info is from another thread.
What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.
Dark control might actually turn out to be another top-tier set if it gets fearsome stare, -ToHit in the attacks and a 90s aoe hard mez. Too bad for Dark affinity, though.
The only thing that strikes me is that both the stun and fearsome stare are cones, so it'll be a hassle if you have a PBAoE-focused secondary e.g. Poison.
I'm a fussbritches, but I think that your primary should do primary things, seconday doing secondary things, so I'm pretty fine with dark affinity lacking the better controls.
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Dark control might actually turn out to be another top-tier set if it gets fearsome stare, -ToHit in the attacks and a 90s aoe hard mez. Too bad for Dark affinity, though.
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I'm a fussbritches, but I think that your primary should do primary things, seconday doing secondary things, so I'm pretty fine with dark affinity lacking the better controls.
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* As opposed to EM Pulse from /Rad
Arc #40529 : The Furies of the Earth
I dunno about ridiculously broken, but it sure would be strong.
Honestly I'd have preferred if they had just changed FS to mag2 with a longer recharge for Controllers.
Not having FS means that Dark Affinity no longer (appears to*) fills the main role I wanted Dark Miasma for, which was making up for Gravity's horrible (complete lack of) soft control.
*As I haven't heard what the other new power for DA is, this is just speculation. It may well still fill that role within that pairing... but it's looking a little bleak.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
Surely the real solution there is to make Gravity no longer a pile of balls?
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Surely the real solution there is to make Gravity no longer a pile of balls?
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Sadly it's been a stinker for so long, with really no indication it's ever going to actually get fixed, that relying on your secondary set as a band-aid for it seems more feasible.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
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"lovely, lovely"
Must be doubled because the inky art Tunnel Rat did for them/the set is just that awesome.
@artphobia
To the best dev team ever: I enjoyed meeting you all at the Summits and best of luck in all your future endeavors.
I was watching the Ustream of the Player summit, and the Devs have OFFICIALLY announced Dark Control... and it'll be FREE for VIPs!
No other details than that, so far.
-STEELE =)
Allied to all sides so that no matter what, I'll come out on top!
Oh, and Crimson demands you play this arc-> Twisted Knives (MA Arc #397769)