Dark Armor Sucks again.


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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad View Post
Nope. Mastermind. Back in the day, pre invention system, /poison (usually thugs), was ranked right up there with bots/traps for av soloing.
Ah that's roughly the same in difficulty I suppose, considering the Noxious Gas differences.


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Yep. And the rising tide has changed everyone's perspective on the matter, but I still feel that the power to solo AVs on SOs makes it likely that the set is not terribly underpowered.


 

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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
Not really, I died several times in that mission.
So did Dechs. That's not failure by itself.


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Originally Posted by Talen Lee View Post
Yep. And the rising tide has changed everyone's perspective on the matter, but I still feel that the power to solo AVs on SOs makes it likely that the set is not terribly underpowered.
Thankfully today the beta server patched the problem with Poison Trap so we will see.


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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
*sigh*

Let's take the basic loadout of all Brute Armors:

Fiery Aura
Dark Armor
Invulnerability
Willpower
Regeneration
Stone Armor
Electric Armor
Shield Defense
Energy Aura
Super Reflexes

Now, let's pit them against Psi:

Dark Armor
Willpower
Electric Armor
Shield Defense
Super Reflexes
Regeneration (via heals)

Stone, Invul, Fiery and Energy are out as they have no resistance to Psi (unless you decide to toggle out of Granite and turn on Minerals).

Let's pit them against endurance drain:

Dark Armor
Electric Armor
Super Reflexes

Shield, Regen and Willpower are out because they don't have the huge drain resistance (or the defense to just avoid the drain). The remaining sets will eat floor after that Sapper decides to ruin their day unless the Fiery Aura Brute is quick on his Consume and the Sapper's hold misses.

Which of any of the aforementioned sets can go from 1 health to full health in less than a second? Dark Armor. Which of the aforementioned sets can stun an AV? Dark Armor. Which sets can, with a single IO, fill their endurance bar AND their health bar? Dark Armor.

Give some credit where credit is due, man; there are things Dark Armor can stand up to that no other sets can (like the Sapper Onslaught in Dechs's first video, or a wall of Psionic damage, or DEATH), and it even has resistance to Toxic Damage.
Consume gives 2 minutes of endurance protection and can be recharged in 50-60 seconds with respectable +recharge. For all intents and purposes a Fiery Aura brute has the same capped resistance as Electric Armour.

As for Malta a well built melee + good defence is usually enough if played remotely intelligently. AOE soft control through your primary and then crush the one or two little guys that cause issues before they get up, win!

Honestly Carnies and Malta are no hassle at all for my Willpower Tank or Fiery Aura Brute.

*Correction: Consume doesn't cap your protection but it gives very high resistance. Enough that at +4/x8 they weren't an issue.


 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
You know, I keep forgetting that change FA got. Thanks for pointing that out.
Yeah I always do too, and my main is a fire/fire.


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I guess I don't notice it because I kill everything too fast to need more endurance.
Yeah pretty much this.


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[...] also I only use CJ when I get immobilized for the most part, which is the other part that CoD grants, only at a much higher end cost.
Why not leave Combat Jumping on?


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Why not leave Combat Jumping on?
Most of the time I do.


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You know, as soon as I hit Play on the video my first thought was, "There is a 100% chance that some twit will complain about Claws propping up Dark Armor." And lo and behold, I was not disappointed.


 

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Originally Posted by Talen Lee View Post
Gravity. Force Fields. But yeah, amongst the Real Boys, no set sucks.
I'll never get the hour i spent on soloing gangbuster on my grav/ff back.


 

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Finally picked up that Theft of Essence proc. Damn. Whoever said it was designed with Dark Regen in mind was absolutely correct. Use it when fully saturated and you actually get more end back than what you started with (when dark regen is slotted correctly.)


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I'm actually working on a Spines/DA stalker, but I'm not exactly sure he'd be able to do something like this, despite what BruteSquad might say. There is something to be said for the Brute's HP values.
not sure you can squeeze enough defense bonuses out of Spines


 

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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
not sure you can squeeze enough defense bonuses out of Spines
His build is pretty solid if it's at all like what he posted in the stalker forum a while back. I forget if it is capped to both S/L and e/ne or just within 1 small purple on both, but he has the defense to back up the heal and resist.


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Originally Posted by Arcanaville View Post
Energy Aura should be higher than SR against endurance drain.
I think the new energy aura should be higher as well but not just against energy drain. My kin/energy is better than my ss/wp and ss/sd brutes. All 3 are IO'd out with the sd and energy at and above soft caps.

Without running "tests" in the AE on identical missions and such, I think my kin/energy performs better. Though, this is probably because of the IO's.


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Originally Posted by JayboH View Post
Finally picked up that Theft of Essence proc. Damn.
Am just quoting this so ya know I am replying to ya. Did ya start up that thread about One Dark Armour change partly because of your experiences with that DA in the video?


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Fantastic music choices on those videos, Stratonexus!


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Originally Posted by Mr. DJ View Post
not sure you can squeeze enough defense bonuses out of Spines
My Spines/Dark's defense sits at:

Energy/Negative/Psionic: 19%
Ranged: 22%
Smashing/Lethal: 26%
Fire/Cold: 29%
AoE: 31%
Melee: 35%

It's not capped to anything, but it's within one purple for melee and aoe. I solo +4/x8 at a pretty good clip, vs most stuff. Carnies, Malta, Council, Circle, etc.


 

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Got me again Dechs. I rolled a BS/DA Brute, hopefully DA works better for me better this time around. I plan to shoot for 32/33% S/L/E/N defense and rely a small purples to stay at the softcap. But I do have a question, could or should I respec out of Parry later on in the build?


 

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Originally Posted by New Dawn View Post
Am just quoting this so ya know I am replying to ya. Did ya start up that thread about One Dark Armour change partly because of your experiences with that DA in the video?
No, that's an honest question, but no I made those videos for this thread - you can check the dates yourself. I was asked to poll the players for their thoughts on one of the larger focus of complaints against the set over the years: that it burns tons of end.


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Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze View Post
Figured to try this on a regen..

Vid here!!!
Try turning down your recording level for audio - turn down Stereo Mix, that is. To give you an example, I usually have to turn mine down to 7 out of 100 for it to be perfect like it is in my videos. What capturing software are you using?


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