Red-Side VIP Archetypes?
That sucks! That means, that the Red-Side VIP Archetypes that I already have created will have to go through Praetoria, in order to become Heroes! Darnit! Oh, well, more work.
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That sucks! That means, that the Red-Side VIP Archetypes that I already have created will have to go through Praetoria, in order to become Heroes! Darnit! Oh, well, more work.
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VEATs can't be started in Praetoria either, so you don't have to/get to do anything in Praetoria to be a hero, you just have to start redside and work through the alignment system.
The VIP Restricted (unless you pay for them) archetypes (Mastermind/Controller) can be started on any side.
The reason VEATs don't go through the tutorial is because they have a completely different origin from other characters. They are Arachnos minions (by definition Villains) who have decided to try to grab some power and fame by putting themselves on the Destined One list. They can later choose to become Rogues or go all the way to Hero, just like other villains can, but a newly created level 1 VEAT is basically a generic Arachnos henchman who has decided to become a lot less generic and make a name for themselves. They don't have any mechanical need to do the tutorial since you have to have a level 20+ villain to make one (and therefore aren't a new player) and there's no real way for it to make sense story-wise for them to do so, so they skip it and instead run a unique starting mission that sets them up with the standard initial villain contact. Basically they get an alternate intro based on their background, as do Kheldians heroside.
Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
FAR too many non-50 alts to name
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I still think its dumb that they force this on players. They should just give a minor warning that you are missing part of the story and just let you switch sides fully knowing well you can switch back if you want to experience the full story. I just hate it when the devs cave into role-players.
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EATs getting to do the new tutorial was never on the table. The developers deciding that the plot of their game at least had to make a passing attempt at pretending to be cohesive has nothing to do with roleplayers.
Agenda much? Christ.
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I still think its dumb that they force this on players. They should just give a minor warning that you are missing part of the story and just let you switch sides fully knowing well you can switch back if you want to experience the full story. I just hate it when the devs cave into role-players.
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Wow. Mind sharing what your smoking?
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
I still think its dumb that they force this on players. They should just give a minor warning that you are missing part of the story and just let you switch sides fully knowing well you can switch back if you want to experience the full story. I just hate it when the devs cave into role-players.
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Cascade, level 50 Blaster (NRG/NRG since before it was cool)
Mechmeister, level 50 Bots / Traps MM
FAR too many non-50 alts to name
[u]Arcs[u]
The Scavenger Hunt: 187076
The Instant Lair Delivery Service: 206636
It's not about role-playing, it's about the character's origins. Epic ATs have a completely different origin than standard characters...
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My huntsman is a former TV personality who has no connection to Arachnos and has never been put on any special lists besides FBI most wanted.
it's the equivalent of how in other MMOs different races or classes go through different starting areas. |
The EAT lore is a total mess. VEAT's are trying to get on to a 'destined one' list that doesn't exist because the 'destined one' storyline was removed.
HEAT's have to go and defeat 10 Council while remaining blissfully unaware that the Battalion (You know, those people who used them as ship fuel) just blew up Shadowstar's hangout spot. Even she doesn't seem to notice that some of her mortal enemies just took a crap on her front porch, so absorbed has she been trying to rescue that Shadowcatcher guy for like 6 years.
I know the whole point is for EAT's to be "story driven," but if the stories aren't going to be updated enough that they're relevant to the current state of the game I think the argument is moot. I totally support letting EAT's do the shiny new tutorial so they can blow up the big brain-alien creature too.
Actually your character is a former Arachnos minion who was convinced by a sexy secretary (who was secretly a Nemesis automaton) to leave Arachnos and put his name on the Destined Ones list. After completing a series of tasks for the secretary, he discovered she was an automaton (details left out how as this is a family website). Because Nemesis had future plans requiring his unwitting assistance, rather than killing him, they tricked the Carnival of Shadows into erasing his memory and replacing it with a story about being a former TV personality.
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Actually your character is a former Arachnos minion who was convinced by a sexy secretary (who was secretly a Nemesis automaton) to leave Arachnos and put his name on the Destined Ones list. After completing a series of tasks for the secretary, he discovered she was an automaton (details left out how as this is a family website). Because Nemesis had future plans requiring his unwitting assistance, rather than killing him, they tricked the Carnival of Shadows into erasing his memory and replacing it with a story about being a former TV personality.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
Now that almost all archetypes are made to go through the new Galaxy City Tutorial, why aren't the Red-Side VIP Archetypes also made to go through it? Just curious.
Try my 3 MArcs: I.D.#67166:Protect the Artifacts!! I.D.#97724:Level-Up Time. I.D.#243803:Witch War! Salem vs. Croatoa!