PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do something about the forums


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This is getting out of hand. I can't even stay logged in for a few hours now. If I dare remain inactive I get logged out the next time I visit. vBulletin is broken beyond hell and approaching worthless.

Lock this thread, hell nuke it from orbit for all I care, just fix the friggin' thing.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
This is getting out of hand. I can't even stay logged in for a few hours now. If I dare remain inactive I get logged out the next time I visit. vBulletin is broken beyond hell and approaching worthless.

Lock this thread, hell nuke it from orbit for all I care, just fix the friggin' thing.
/signed.

Yeah, I'm getting tired of logging back in every time I come here. It's not like it's hard work, but it's irritating.


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On my list of current frustrations this problem is somewhere near (but not at) the bottom.

BUT COME ON.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
This is getting out of hand. I can't even stay logged in for a few hours now. If I dare remain inactive I get logged out the next time I visit.
I can honestly live with having to log back in every couple hours, it's not all that huge a bother (though it is a bother). What gets me is there have been several instances over the weekend when I went and logged in, got the log-in confirmation page, and then when it redirected me back to the actual forums ... I was logged out.


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This has been going on for several YEARS with no sign that the devs even give a damn, let alone are trying to fix it. They just ignore threads on it, which is pretty typical really.


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How were you guys able to post?


 

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How were you guys able to post?
Well, see, most people take less than a few hours to compose a post. This post, for example, took less than a few minutes.


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Originally Posted by Oliin View Post
I can honestly live with having to log back in every couple hours, it's not all that huge a bother (though it is a bother). What gets me is there have been several instances over the weekend when I went and logged in, got the log-in confirmation page, and then when it redirected me back to the actual forums ... I was logged out.
Over the last few months the forum software has become more and more annoying to work with. i usually use the Hero skin since i like the colors slightly more, but with that getting broken last week and getting logged out every couple of hours that's started up this week i can only hope that this is fallout from developing a fix for the longer term forum issues and will be corrected soon.

Either that or whoever is in charge of maintaining the forums has finally given up completely on getting them to work well and now types in all changes using their forehead.


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I just hope that this complete neglect of the forums is due to a new improved version being developed. If not, then they should fire whoever maintains it, because a dead horse could maintain a healthy life with far better success.


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Being logged out has become logical for me. I don't get logged out mid-session any more, but every time I shut down Firefox, I'm logged out when I come back. If, however, I "Restore Previous Session," I am stilled logged in if I had forum pages open in the last session. However, shutting down Firefox and then loading a forum page from History sees me logged out.

What bugs me more right now is the latest forum bug which makes some icons giant, some icons not load and forum posts stretch the full horizontal size of my resolution.


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Zwillinger addressed this in one of the chats sometime around the release of Freedom. IIRC from what he said it's a known bug from the company who makes the forum software. Since they haven't released a fix, Paragon doesn't have one either.

They could try to hack it and fix it, but there's no guarantee it won't break something else. They don't replace it because the man-hours involved, and the potential for lost posts. (And there are some good posts worth keeping around. Guides and such.)

So, with everything involved, they are waiting for an official fix.


 

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Unfortunately, that's not real confidence inspiring. Yes, the hero theme is broken, and I want them to fix it, because I prefer it. But they seem to have also broken other things which that post doesn't mention. They seem to have resurrected the logout bug and fed it digital steroids. This after a period of several weeks of much improved login stability. (It was still annoying that it logged you out after each browser session no matter what you did with "remember me", but vastly preferable to random logouts as you navigated within an open browser session.)


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The logging-you-out bug is a minor bug in the scale of things. We can put up with it for a while.

We can put up with it over

and over

and over

and over
and over
and over

and over and over and over and over and over and over

andoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandovera ndoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoveran doverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverand overandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverando verandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandoverandov erandoverandoverandover

but at some point it becomes a MAJOR issue, does it not?


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Also I like to use New (or Today's) Posts and when I use the villain theme it won't work. The wait 30 secs timer comes up and then when I wait and click it starts over again from 30 seconds.


 

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This might be a silly question but how does one change themes? I looked in the CP and couldn't find the option. I'm sure it was staring me in the face.


 

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This might be a silly question but how does one change themes? I looked in the CP and couldn't find the option. I'm sure it was staring me in the face.
Easiest way is to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the screen and use the little pull down menu to change the theme



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Ha, never noticed that there. Thanks!


 

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Originally Posted by Solarstar View Post
Zwillinger addressed this in one of the chats sometime around the release of Freedom. IIRC from what he said it's a known bug from the company who makes the forum software. Since they haven't released a fix, Paragon doesn't have one either.

They could try to hack it and fix it, but there's no guarantee it won't break something else. They don't replace it because the man-hours involved, and the potential for lost posts. (And there are some good posts worth keeping around. Guides and such.)

So, with everything involved, they are waiting for an official fix.
When I purchase a product that has stopped working properly, I don't hang around waiting for a fix that may never come, nor do I try to fix it myself. I ditch it and find something that works better.


"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...

 

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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
When I purchase a product that has stopped working properly, I don't hang around waiting for a fix that may never come, nor do I try to fix it myself. I ditch it and find something that works better.
Well, if I recall correctly, one of the reasons for picking vBulletin was so that they have a support contract with the maker. What's broken down here with that support process is of course unclear without word from a redname, which probably isn't likely.


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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA

 

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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
How were you guys able to post?
Until the past weekend or so it only was logging me out if I closed my browser. Since then though as long as logging in actually works I seem to stay logged in until I go idle for a few hours. At which point I need to try logging in again and hope it sticks on the first try.


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Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
This is getting out of hand. I can't even stay logged in for a few hours now. If I dare remain inactive I get logged out the next time I visit. vBulletin is broken beyond hell and approaching worthless.

Lock this thread, hell nuke it from orbit for all I care, just fix the friggin' thing.
THIS.

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Originally Posted by UberGuy View Post
Well, if I recall correctly, one of the reasons for picking vBulletin was so that they have a support contract with the maker. What's broken down here with that support process is of course unclear without word from a redname, which probably isn't likely.
Uh, yeah, and clearly that support contract is working out so well for them, with the logout bug going on for YEARS now...


 

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Why, indeed, did we have to ditch our old forums that actually worked? Since day 1 of the new forums, I've been unable to use "jump to last post" (it keeps showing me posts I saw days ago, and posts I made as unread), I've had the boards occasionally slow to a crawl and refuse to load, it's been logging me out since as far back as I remember, the interface is bad to the point that players have had to make skin mods...

Honestly, for all the crap people said about the old boards... They worked! These don't.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.