Supplementary draft Friday, Nov 4th (Tommorow)

Last I heard this was the case, like the cap on Test server was ridiculously low... Certainly not enough to field 3-4 sets of 8v8s every Sunday.

It may have changed, I heard that a while ago, but if it hasn't then even if we wanted to a test server league would be pretty impossible.

EDIT: Nevermind, Philly on the ball.

Since they just use the beta server for major issue releases now, I think that would help with the issue of long periods of downtime cutting into a test tourny/league/ladder/whatever. I'm not sure if that was part of the issue back then, but if it was then that would help, so long as they continue to only use the beta server for new issues.

Sorry, I've gotten into a bad habit of double posting :/.

This issue was resolved months ago. The only reason(s) for not having a test league now are:
1) people are too lazy(stupid) to download Test.
2) server pride.
3) Keeping league pvp for the exclusive few that can afford the builds.

I am the worst person to ask to organize anything PvP related(I don't have the respect or clout in the PvP community). If Conflict, Trib or Yallander we're around they'd be better suited. Unfortunately the brightest left a long time ago.

A Test league would be really nice to have just for the sake of nostalgia.

It's mostly:

1)Agree.
1A) Test is an unstable environment with patches and spite-takedowns.

The Arena PvPers have moved to Freedom. As for builds, people gladly help with accolades and IOS and inf, so that's not as much a problem anymore.

This. Do you really believe the people with expensive builds don't want others to have them? Especially since it's so easy to make inf.

Considering how much drama there is when people can't stack their teams with friends in a KB...

You're really asking this question? I think people are more concerned with pwning.

As a returning PvP'er I haven't seen much of this. My team, which seems mainly as broke as I am, helps where they can but it took me several weeks to get working farming build and then I had to farm to get a cheap build for my Emp which only has two purples and a limited number of PvP sets. Perhaps I am asking the wrong people or not asking enough but from my perspective its a big impediment.

The numbers are wanting as is. What is there really to lose?

You're right I probably would. I miss Con.

It depends on your teammates I guess. When we were doing the Champ 3 v 3 league Peril funded a bunch of our builds, but he's a dance legend and that has its benefits. Generally a PvP team will have a few flush players that can help out or at least get market tips.

Time.

Imagine this scenario:

@Neuronia: "Hai guise let's go to test."

PvPer 1: "Shut fayse."
PvPer 2: "Baddo."
PvPers 3-5: "Sure, let's patch."
PvPers 6-7: "Lol Test, that's for people without inf or builds."

For this to work we would need at least 5-8 teams with 8-15 members...so 90 pvpers. We would also all need bases on both sides unless we flip our characters to middle alignments. THEN we would need about 10-15 Respecs each to fill our bins with IOs to distribute to everyone.

Now that that's done, we need to schedule matches...and anyone that was on Test in the day know it was like pulling teeth to get anything more than a few practices going and it's even worse if you're the top team, in which case you're basically just fighting the same teams...see Velocity vs. JAL/PWNY Xpress/etc. while you field challenges from a few other teams that want to see if they can unseat the big dogs.

So it comes down to:

1)Do we want to spend a few weeks transferring, building bases, respecing and transferring to bins, setting up test and letting everyone know about test or...

2)Just PL on Freedom, farm inf and get pvp IOs and purples via the market or RMT.

It would take a seismic shift of interest on the part of a dwindling community to make this happen and I honestly do not see it at this point. The last test ladder had So Much Dam, dUmb and mac's team (?) and it basically became dUmb vs. SMD (?) practicing 2-3 days a week until we got bored and moved to Freedom.

We're on Freedom. You get a free transfer per month so you can move your toon there if you're ViP. Moving on.

TLDR:

The test ship has sailed. We're on Freedom. Free server transfers with ViP. Moving on.

What a coincidence I can never quite tell if you're just mad at me or just angry with the world in general.

Strange how anonymity can obscure things.

You can't have two separate leagues or make preparation for a test league while this league is in progress? Didn't know pvp was that bad off. I was told that this was the most successful league in a while.

Southern Comfort or SoCo for short. SMD was the FpvpL name after the mods decided they were against post operation transvestites.

You do realize that I don't even play this game right?

So, just angry with the world in general?

What's your point? F2P players can't use incarnates anyway (ask poned) d;P . Avatea pointed out the copy tool should be fixed by later today.

I won't join because it's a giant circle jerk;It isn't competitive when you can easily predict the outcome.

If you really want me to join in your events I have no problem emping or debuffing/support for KBs. Ask Dex and Vex I participated in KBs on Terminal Lad untill I got banned or tired of the whiners not being able to stack team.

The constant ******** grates on my nerves.

Lol then why do you post in discussions about it?

Also you are missing the point. The most fun you have in a league is generally fighting the teams that are close to you in skill level. And practices are generally funner than the officials because there's less pressure to win. You can just play and it doesn't have the randomness of a kb.

Ok?

I'd actually prefer leagues on test because of IO duping, gives an opportunity for people to roll more toons. But, most people won't even bother with it because it has proven to be unreliable in the past and people are just lazy.

The reason why KBs are fun is because they are random. Much more difficult to predict the outcome and much more FUN when the more experienced players aren't consolidated to one team.

I agree. Doesn't look like it will happen.