Supplementary draft Friday, Nov 4th (Tommorow)


BattleWraith

 

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Close, but not quite accurate.

1. FAP requests a supplement draft for 2 weeks, but one is not set for whatever reason.
2. Draft gets set and FAP gets first pick as we requested one before HB.

Being so cranky lately Xan.. wassa matter?


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I think the main idea of Xan's post was to make sure FAP knows they are the little dogs.


 

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So lemme get this straight.

1. The little dogs (FAP) whimper at the Kat but don't get anything.
2. *Two weeks pass*
3. The big dogs (HB) bark loud and scare the Kat into putting a draft together.
4. The little dogs whimpers again and asks to be #1 due to some beta male mentality ish.

Weak.

Honey Badgers. Carrying shy people circa 2011.
This is even stupider than the sackriding nonsense you typically post. Lemme try:
1. Xanatos freaks out because people are dropping from his team.
2. Xanatos motions to absorb a team that hasn't disbanded.
3. Xanatos calls for a draft, but doesn't get first pick.
4. Someone explains the rules to Xanatos. A draft isn't neccessary if you add to your core.
5. HB take two people form CC, which still has an official to participate in Sunday. Dickmove? I guess that's a matter of perspective.
6. Exultant Xanatos makes big dog analogy. Overweight pug Hemmingway clarifies.

Gratz Big Dog. Next time just add to your core and don't yap so much about it. There are still people we are interested in drafting but we can wait until after Sunday.


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Originally Posted by hemmingway3 View Post
I think the main idea of Xan's post was to make sure FAP knows they are the little dogs.
Well since you and Xan want to play that way I will remind you that you can't play your new pick up's till next Sunday. GG's (confirmed this rule with Kat)

Was going to just not worry about it but if you want to be lil douches we'll play that game.



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Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
Well since you and Xan want to play that way I will remind you that you can't play your new pick up's till next Sunday. GG's (confirmed this rule with Kat)

Was going to just not worry about it but if you want to be lil douches we'll play that game.
Then you will probably be making it so that we can not even field a team of 7, my internet is still not working(posting this from my phone), comcast is working on it.......... so have fun fighting a team of maybe 5.

If you wanna "play that game"


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How much longer is this season going to last?


 

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Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
Well since you and Xan want to play that way I will remind you that you can't play your new pick up's till next Sunday. GG's (confirmed this rule with Kat)

Was going to just not worry about it but if you want to be lil douches we'll play that game.
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Then you will probably be making it so that we can not even field a team of 7, my internet is still not working(posting this from my phone), comcast is working on it.......... so have fun fighting a team of maybe 5.

If you wanna "play that game"
-- In the event that a trade occurs, the person being traded may not participate in the set of officials directly after their trade. If a situation arises where allowing a person in this situation to play would allow for 8v8 where it would otherwise not, if both Captains can agree to it, that person may play.

It was not a trade. It was a drop and add thus them being core members. They can play. Sorry Philly, I know you were only pretending to be a hard *** so you wont mind but when I see a rule call out its in my nature to solve it.


 

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Originally Posted by Daknah View Post
-- In the event that a trade occurs, the person being traded may not participate in the set of officials directly after their trade. If a situation arises where allowing a person in this situation to play would allow for 8v8 where it would otherwise not, if both Captains can agree to it, that person may play.

It was not a trade. It was a drop and add thus them being core members. They can play. Sorry Philly, I know you were only pretending to be a hard *** so you wont mind but when I see a rule call out its in my nature to solve it.
I actually specifically asked Kat about this the only way they can play right away is if CC disbanded and they haven't yet.

I was the one who suggested the if the captains agree part because of a situation like honey badgers, though i'm not real sympathetic to a smack talking a team.



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We're playing them. If you want to ban us or whatever go right ahead.


 

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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
We're playing them. If you want to ban us or whatever go right ahead.
The rules do not stipulate that we cannot play them, so of course we are going to play them.


 

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Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
I actually specifically asked Kat about this the only way they can play right away is if CC disbanded and they haven't yet.

I was the one who suggested the if the captains agree part because of a situation like honey badgers, though i'm not real sympathetic to a smack talking a team.
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We're playing them. If you want to ban us or whatever go right ahead.
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Originally Posted by hemmingway3 View Post
The rules do not stipulate that we cannot play them, so of course we are going to play them.
The way it is worded they can play. So by the rules they can. If Kat wants to interpret them otherwise he would be cheating. Sorry :/ Maybe talk to him again and make sure he reads where it says trade.


 

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Also I was the one that brought that rule to the table to be created and it was because CK traded all her players off at the end of the league when knocked out of contention. So the meaning behind it is in fact the way it is written.


 

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To shed light on my original interpretation of this, it's because I didn't even read the actual rule when you asked, which was my fault. The way it's worded it means the only case in which people can't be played immediately after switching teams is in a trade.

The only reason I thought that held true for core switches was because I remembered putting in some kind of counter measure to make sure people weren't just switching back and forth between different cores.

Trade rules and other team guidelines:
-- Each team must register with with at least 5 core members. By the time the draft rolls around, every team must have at least 8 core members to participate, with a maximum of 10.
-- At any point during the season, Captains may call for a re-draft. Re-drafts will happen every Friday IF NECCESARY. Re-drafts will be an opportunity for Captains to replace draftees who are no call, no shows, or need to be removed from the team otherwise.
-- Members of a team's core may be replaced at any time, once someone has been removed from the core, they may not be re-added to the core they were removed from.
-- Captains may remove any player from their roster at any time if they are causing substantial issues within the team.
-- Trades are allowed, all trades must be final by every Saturday before match dates.
-- Captain's may not trade themselves, even after handing over the duty to another member on the roster.
-- In the event that a trade occurs, the person being traded may not participate in the set of officials directly after their trade. If a situation arises where allowing a person in this situation to play would allow for 8v8 where it would otherwise not, if both Captains can agree to it, that person may play.
-- The players involved in said trade must consent to being traded, as well as the Captains involved. If no agreement can be reached, the trade can't happen.
-- NO ACCOUNT SHARING, NO RINGERS during officials. The person who owns each account must be the only person to play said account during officials. No unregistered globals will be allowed to play in officials.

-- If a team is disbanded, they may enter the draft and play as soon as they are drafted.

-- ALL ROSTERS ARE FINAL after week 7 of the regular season matches. No trades may be made after those matches, no core members replaced, or new draftees added from a supplemental draft.

Sorry for the confusion, I probably should have read the rules more thoroughly before I said anything concrete about it, thanks to those of you who pointed this out.


@TheKatalyst
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In the future, even if I say something is or is not allowed/against the rules, I would read the rules before you jump to conclusions. I don't have a completely accurate mental note of what the rules are in my head, so what I say might be wrong or somewhat incorrect. This is part of the reason I had to green light the draft on Friday, because it was pointed out to me there was no stipulation for re-drafts beyond them being asked for.

Just because I am the founder of this league doesn't mean I can bend rules, so please, if I say something that is an incorrect interpretation of the rules, call me out on it, because I probably just forgot.


@TheKatalyst
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The way it is worded they can play. So by the rules they can. If Kat wants to interpret them otherwise he would be cheating.
The lineup submission rule did not specify giving the exact builds of each AT. Someone got upset and complained to Kat and voila that rule was altered.

Same sort of deal here. There are rules regarding trades and drafts, but not about bailing on your team and being added to someone else's core. Kat addressing this oversight isn't cheating any more than in the case of the lineup submissions.


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Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
The lineup submission rule did not specify giving the exact builds of each AT. Someone got upset and complained to Kat and voila that rule was altered.

Same sort of deal here. There are rules regarding trades and drafts, but not about bailing on your team and being added to someone else's core. Kat addressing this oversight isn't cheating any more than in the case of the lineup submissions.
The lineup sub rule was changed because it didn't really achieve the purpose of a lineup submission if it were to be exploited. I left it open because I wanted to avoid people getting DQ'd for mistakes in submissions that didn't matter, such as Stalker primaries or something along those lines. When it was exploited, I had to make it more strict because once one team does it, the rest of the teams will follow suit.

In regards to this rule, it's not really an oversight. There's still a penalty for switching cores, that being that once you leave the core of a particular team, they can't add you back as a core member. The way I wrote it was the way I intended it to function in the beginning, where as the lineup submission rule was not functioning as lineup submissions should function.

I'm really not interested in removing playtime from people because of hard feelings between teams, if it were the case that they could not play this weekend, that would be pretty crappy because they both want to play, and the reason they left CC was because they were not getting playtime outside of officials, so I'm not going to lose sleep over not bending the rule in this case.


@TheKatalyst
My **** is bleeding.

 

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When will people learn they cannot win an argument with Dex about rules?

And FAP needs to stop being so butthurt about everything.


 

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Originally Posted by DaveMebs View Post
When will people learn they cannot win an argument with Dex about rules?

And FAP needs to stop being so butthurt about everything.

Meh I'm PMS'ing why should I be nice to a team that's being a bunch of douchbags, you confuse being a c*** with being butthurt. I assure you in no way where my feelings hurt. Besides Dex does seem to know me, which is a little scarey.



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I love how xan and hem trash talking to members of FAP is an excuse for FAP to attempt to pull a dick move on two players (KGB and projects) who just want to play, who clearly have done nothing wrong to FAP.

Philly or Slan care to explain the logics?


@Psycho Jas

 

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I think everybody needs to step away from their computers, count to 10, take some deep breaths, and then come back and kiss/make-up.


@TheKatalyst
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This is more like it. Legit banter for the fourth spot. We can't let WARE/Exile and WARE/Shenanigans dominate the forum pvp too!


 

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Originally Posted by BattleWraith View Post
5. HB take two people form CC, which still has an official to participate in Sunday. Dickmove? I guess that's a matter of perspective.
Dickmove? Taking 2 of the best players from a completely hopeless team, giving them a chance to play for a team that practices way more, and has a much higher chance of getting into the play offs (lol) is a dickmove? No, like I mentioned in my previous point the only - attempted - dickmove in this thread is FAP trying to ban these two players from tomorrow nights official.

You're trying to hard, please take a seat and get comfy in the 5th spot. You suck.


@Psycho Jas

 

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Originally Posted by SoulTouch View Post
I love how xan and hem trash talking to members of FAP is an excuse for FAP to attempt to pull a dick move on two players (KGB and projects) who just want to play, who clearly have done nothing wrong to FAP.

Philly or Slan care to explain the logics?
Sure

It's rather simple logic I can be a C*** and when your team started calling us dogs I decided to be a real c*** back. Since I had the wrong info it doesn't work out, and as dex pointed out i would have just backed off tomorrow but I was feeling fairly bithcy today.

Regarding KGB and projects I don't have a lot of sympathy for them since they couldn't stay with their team (one that they posted that they would only play for in their draft app's) till they finished their last match which would have required them to wait all of 2 days. What's ironic is since your team hasn't practiced in over 2 weeks their situation is not getting better at least CC practiced week before last.



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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
This is more like it. Legit banter for the fourth spot. We can't let WARE/Exile and WARE/Shenanigans dominate the forum pvp too!
Think Ware has an unfair advantage here best make it Ware vs Exile + Sheanigans



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Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
Sure

It's rather simple logic I can be a C*** and when your team started calling us dogs I decided to be a real c*** back. Since I had the wrong info it doesn't work out, and as dex pointed out i would have just backed off tomorrow but I was feeling fairly bithcy today.

Regarding KGB and projects I don't have a lot of sympathy for them since they couldn't stay with their team (one that they posted that they would only play for in their draft app's) till they finished their last match which would have required them to wait all of 2 days. What's ironic is since your team hasn't practiced in over 2 weeks their situation is not getting better at least CC practiced week before last.
So you got upset over a little bit of forum trolling and decided to try and come at us by pointing to non existent rules, yeah... That worked out well for you. Neither KGB or Projects needs your sympathy so don't hold your breath, believe me there situation is far better off at honeybadgers then at CC.

At the end of the day, FAP are mad, honeybadgers once again get what we want because we wanted it and thats how life works, i'm afraid.

GG!


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