I can get behind this. No idea what it means to the system but if can be done without slowing things down it would rock.
I don't think we will ever get back full control over skin/costume color again (or nipples again lol) because children just waste too much of everybody's time and money enforcing decency laws.
UNLESS....they start instituting FINES. You violate naming/costume/chat rules you get fined X points from Paragon Market. If you don't have points your account gets closed and banned. Charging money might actually get people to police their own behavior a bit.
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You can't please everyone, so lets concentrate on me.
I think we all know how arbitrarily the rules are enforced. For example, my gargoyles are nude (thanks to there not being a loin cloth option 
), but being non-human, the GMs let it slide. Have a naked flesh-colored woman running around the city, though (nipples or no), and out come the torches and pitchforks
(Must remember to suggest pitchfork emote, and perhaps an angrier torch emote.)
That being said, there's still a noticeable seam between his hands / feet and his legs / torso. I can only get so close to matching the skin color options and the costume color options.
I'd love a color wheel, don't get me wrong. I just don't think we'll ever see one because of the rapid increase of GM costume petitions.
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Right you can't make a nude character with any color that's roughly close to real human flesh tones. But you can use a few other colors (like one of the reds for instance) to make color-matching Ken/Barbie dolls like that. *shrugs*
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Not a true nude. For example, the White skin color and the white used for clothing has enough of a noticeable difference that it is not truly nude.
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Pure White Skin with Pure Clothing White (costume set: BARE) equates to Not Truly Nude.
Covering your character in spandex and a white mask also does not equate to "nude."
Giving players access to a Color Wheel or RGB color picker could allow people to create potentially absolutely nude looking characters, which would be against the T for Teen rules.
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It's a primer. Calm the frack down.
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The color theory is wrong. The terminology is wrong.
It's not that it's not comprehensive, it has bad information. It serves no purpose for a 'primer' to have wrong information. A primer could just as easily have correct information rather than false or misleading information.
If you or anyone you know doesn't know why your printer's color cartridges come in Red, Yellow, and Cyan; rather than "the primary colors" of Red, Yellow, and Blue... then your 'primer's knowledge' of colors is seriously outdated.
It's the equivalent of a grammar primer rehashing all the old 19th century rules of never splitting infinitives or never ending sentences with a preposition. Or a science primer presenting atoms with electrons orbiting like planets. It's not good information to know.
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Absolutely flesh coloured is not absolutely nude in such a way that violates a T for Teen rating. The absence of certain details sees to that. Which is to say it does not qualify as the 'graphic nudity' that requires a higher rating.|
Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Giving players access to a Color Wheel or RGB color picker could allow people to create potentially absolutely nude looking characters, which would be against the T for Teen rules.
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In other news, a reptilian character can wear nothing but their skin if they so choose. No masks, no clothing.
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Don't you mean Magenta rather than Red? And in any case, aren't they sometimes referred to as Process Red, Process Yellow, and Process Blue? Neither of which is particularly relevant to the typical RGB method used in displays, which, IIRC, is an additive method as compared to the subtractive method typically used in printing (well, inkjet anyway, I can't vouch for any processes beyond that).
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Originally Posted by Zombie Man
If you or anyone you know doesn't know why your printer's color cartridges come in Red, Yellow, and Cyan; rather than "the primary colors" of Red, Yellow, and Blue... then your 'primer's knowledge' of colors is seriously outdated.
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Very true that light color theory and pigment color theory vary greatly.
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Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Don't you mean Magenta rather than Red? And in any case, aren't they sometimes referred to as Process Red, Process Yellow, and Process Blue?
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I blame my poor elementary school primary color wheel training.
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I'm just going to say that even if they matched seamlessly, it would still never be "truly nude." Not until you find a way to put the "goods" into the mix.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Pure White Skin with Pure Clothing White (costume set: BARE) equates to Not Truly Nude.
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Originally Posted by Rylas
I want to see neon colors. I want to see dingy colors. I want to see an orange-red every once in a while! We don't even get orange-red!! It's just red or orange! But we get 3 variants of purple!? Who am I? Prince??
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Exactly, that means we should at least have a few teens running around here.|
Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
Here's the issue: players making "nude" looking characters.
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Now, please tell me how mature you were as a teen.
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Originally Posted by Nos482
Exactly, that means we should at least have a few teens running around here.
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You can make technically nude people already, just use the Bioluminescence set.
Alternatively, you could do this
And yet you don't see random blue skinned space dudes running around Paragon City all day.
Give us a Color Wheel.
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Originally Posted by DLancer
You can make technically nude people already...
Give us a Color Wheel. |
As several of us have already mentioned in this thread that you can easily make "non-human flesh tone" nude characters with the options we've had available for years in this game. But as soon as you let someone make a Ken/Barbie doll with normal human skin tones then all bets are off. As I mentioned the Devs specifically nerfed that early on in the game.
For some reason the Devs have decided that being able to do that is too "naughty" for a Teen Rated game. So this means they'd never just give us a standard color wheel because they'd have to spend the time and effort to figure out how to block out all the unacceptable colors. The fact that doing that would not be a trivial effort has likely kept it from happening for the last 7+ years.
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The Biolum set essentially is naked flesh tones with a few glowie skin bits. You still don't see all that many people with the Biolum stuff though.
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Originally Posted by DLancer
The Biolum set essentially is naked flesh tones with a few glowie skin bits. You still don't see all that many people with the Biolum stuff though.
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). They have it now, and I have no idea when they added it in, but it wasn't there initially.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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After seeing this Costume/Character Creation I want to cry...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmLRaHJ-D5g
Adding a color wheel doesn't make the game suddenly enter the "mature" category.