12/4/11 Protector Pylon Challenge: 2 Billion inf. in prizes!
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Actually its not an unnoticable debuff since it doesn't work at all. We tried all of interfaces with %75 debuff chances along with power analyzer mark III's and none of the debuffs from interfaces work. Only thing works is reactives DoT (not even its -res debuffs work)|
Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
Lol, are you really comparing a chem nukes debuffs to an interface proc? Chemical Burn does MASSIVE -resist and -defense. Interface is a small, unnoticeable debuff.
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On argument about destiny. There will be judges on the field right? to see if anyone using insps, temps etc. How about judges themelselves uses rebirth or barrier destiny close to participants? This way you can eliminate destiny's irregularity (since all participants get same buffs) while ensure survival wont be an issue for participants (or a smaller issue).
I may or may not join this competition. I am trying to see if I can squeeze some more damage and get under my current DPS score.
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Yes, there will be judges. The participants will be going one at a time, so it won't be hard to manage. We will be formed into a league- Myself and a couple of others will be keeping an eye on buff icons.
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Originally Posted by Kangstor
On argument about destiny. There will be judges on the field right? to see if anyone using insps, temps etc. How about judges themelselves uses rebirth or barrier destiny close to participants? This way you can eliminate destiny's irregularity (since all participants get same buffs) while ensure survival wont be an issue for participants (or a smaller issue).
I may or may not join this competition. I am trying to see if I can squeeze some more damage and get under my current DPS score. |
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I really hope you submitted a bug report on this. | Actually its not an unnoticable debuff since it doesn't work at all. We tried all of interfaces with %75 debuff chances along with power analyzer mark III's and none of the debuffs from interfaces work. Only thing works is reactives DoT (not even its -res debuffs work) |
I think allowing all but Judgement and Lore is a good call. The rules look good to me, I do suggest keeping it to scrappers and perhaps brutes only though. I really hope it goes well for you.
Be sure to come back and post the results, and see if you can get the winners to post their builds.
Good Luck!
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My friend even posted about it in the know issue thread but no reply at the moment.
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
I really hope you submitted a bug report on this.
I think allowing all but Judgement and Lore is a good call. The rules look good to me, I do suggest keeping it to scrappers and perhaps brutes only though. I really hope it goes well for you. Be sure to come back and post the results, and see if you can get the winners to post their builds. Good Luck! |
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison
I don't have any scrappers. May I enter with my mastermind? Perhaps as an exhibition match, of sorts, if the scrappers don't want to compete against it.
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Sounds like a great contest, and good on you for fronting the 2 bil I hope it all goes well. I also hope some one youtubes the winner I will be looking forward to the results.
re- the mm comment "now if it was a petless mm taking down a pylon, I would transfer to see that"
"if you ever get offered a burger from a clown and its not ronald mcdonald don�t eat it, I learnt that the hard way"
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Originally Posted by Borris_Black
Sounds like a great contest, and good on you for fronting the 2 bil I hope it all goes well. I also hope some one youtubes the winner I will be looking forward to the results.
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Thanks, much appreciated.
I was hoping to see some more people signing up to participate despite the fact that Protector is not the exactly biggest server in the world.A hypothetical question for everyone- What in your opinion would be a big enough prize amount (in Inf.) to persuade you to transfer/roll a new Scrapper to participate in something like this? I'm starting to feel like I'm just being a cheapskate.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Thanks, much appreciated.
I was hoping to see some more people signing up to participate despite the fact that Protector is not the exactly biggest server in the world.A hypothetical question for everyone- What in your opinion would be a big enough prize amount (in Inf.) to persuade you to transfer/roll a new Scrapper to participate in something like this? I'm starting to feel like I'm just being a cheapskate. |
Rather than influence, give away IO sets. Purple Sets, much needed PvP IOs, things that are frustrating to save for, or hard to get for a reasonable price on the market.
If you said the grand prize was a full Hecatbomb set, I bet you may get more. You could even limit the grand prize option to the number of participants. Grand prize = A if Y people enter, or Grand Prize = B if X people enter. That way others may encourage friends to enter just to get a shot at a better prize.
For me it is more a matter of SG membership, and the pain the devs have made it. IF I could reinvite myself it would not be an issue. Also transferring for those who don't have tokens is expensive. Not that I am condoning it, but I bet they could buy 2 billion inf for the same cost as a transfer token.
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Hmm, a good idea. I was actually at first considering making a Gladiator's Armor 3% Defense the first prize, but figured people would rather have the cash to spend freely.|
Originally Posted by Zyphoid
Rather than influence, give away IO sets. Purple Sets, much needed PvP IOs, things that are frustrating to save for, or hard to get for a reasonable price on the market.
If you said the grand prize was a full Hecatbomb set, I bet you may get more. You could even limit the grand prize option to the number of participants. Grand prize = A if Y people enter, or Grand Prize = B if X people enter. That way others may encourage friends to enter just to get a shot at a better prize. |
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| For me it is more a matter of SG membership, and the pain the devs have made it. IF I could reinvite myself it would not be an issue. Also transferring for those who don't have tokens is expensive. Not that I am condoning it, but I bet they could buy 2 billion inf for the same cost as a transfer token. |
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Actually I prefer cash so i can spent it freeliy :P being that said some people may just want a purple to symbolise their victory.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Hmm, a good idea. I was actually at first considering making a Gladiator's Armor 3% Defense the first prize, but figured people would rather have the cash to spend freely.
Eh, I dunno. I've never come across anyone trying to trade IRL money for inf so that point is kind of lost on me. I thought the server transfers would be less of an issue than in the past since I gave enough notice that 2 free transfers could be saved preemptively (they stack,) which is what lead me to believe that the prize was simply insufficient. |
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Originally Posted by Kangstor
Actually I prefer cash so i can spent it freeliy :P being that said some people may just want a purple to symbolise their victory.
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So essentially it seems that the feedback I'm getting is inconclusive and interest seems to be low.
I really want to work with you guys on this. I know that the transfers are an issue, and I certainly don't want to seem like I'm elbowing anyone to transfer to our server, but that's out of my hands- The larger event is not mine, so I can't control where it is taking place.
In the meantime, I'm basically screaming, "Take my money," as loud as I can.
I'm thinking that perhaps if I opened this up to Brutes I would get a better response?
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I wouldn't participate because I worked hard to get my scrapper where he is, and limiting my choice in Incarnate slots, after I worked to get them, is a turn off. I'm with whoever else said that the Lore slot restriction is reasonable (as it isn't really the scrapper doing damage). Aside from that, I know I was very specific about what I chose for DPS/survivability. If I'm entering a contest for single target DPS, I'm going to build a scrapper for it.|
Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
So essentially it seems that the feedback I'm getting is inconclusive and interest seems to be low.
I really want to work with you guys on this. I know that the transfers are an issue, and I certainly don't want to seem like I'm elbowing anyone to transfer to our server, but that's out of my hands- The larger event is not mine, so I can't control where it is taking place. In the meantime, I'm basically screaming, "Take my money," as loud as I can. I'm thinking that perhaps if I opened this up to Brutes I would get a better response? |
Of course there is always the server transfer stuff, which ends up having an additional cost. After sinking 19b into my scrapper, 2b just doesn't seem worth the hassle. The test server was a good idea, or if you created a level one on participants' servers, and sidekicked up to 49 and judged like that.
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Incarnate - 50 Elec/SD
Keplar - 50 DM/SR
Gravaton Cleric - 50 Grav/Kin
Ah well I'm ok with excluding people who need to rely on Judgement or Lore for their single target DPS. Nothing personal.
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Clearly people are OK with not showing up too. I'm not sure what all your fuss is about, a 2 minute cooldown that does ~500 damage isn't all that game breaking. My Lightning Rod hits harder than that and is up every ~20 seconds. Hell, the animation probably makes it worse for DPS in some cases. I was speaking more of Ageless though.|
Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Ah well I'm ok with excluding people who need to rely on Judgement or Lore for their single target DPS. Nothing personal.
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Also, I don't think thinnly veiled insults help you gain traction either. Good luck with your contest. I'll go farm 2b in the time your contest takes, with my Judgement and Lore.
Justice
Incarnate - 50 Elec/SD
Keplar - 50 DM/SR
Gravaton Cleric - 50 Grav/Kin
I'll might show up. It depends if I can roll up a good charcter for it in time.
im in @burnedbyflames toon name Dr. Hedgehog protector is my home and always will be lets go
Scrappers: (50) BS/SD,(50) Spines/INV, Controllers: (50) Fire/Kin (50) Fire/Storm, Tankers: (50) Stone/SS (50) Stone/DB (50)Stone/Elec (50) Ice/Stone (50) Fire/KM (50) Elec/SS +3, Blaster: (50) Ar/Devices, Brutes: (50) Claws/WP +2 (50) Elec/SD +3 (50) Claws/FA +1 (50) SS/WP/MU +3(50) SS/FA/Soul +3, (50) Elec/TW +2, (50) Warshade, (50) Plant/Dark Perma Dom+3
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Right, I decided to allow Destiny because I felt people made a good case for it. And I agree that attempting to use Judgement in a good ST chain would more than likely be a stupid idea, which is why I pointed out that anyone who planned to do so anyways would not be right for this contest.
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Originally Posted by Keplar
Clearly people are OK with not showing up too. I'm not sure what all your fuss is about, a 2 minute cooldown that does ~500 damage isn't all that game breaking. My Lightning Rod hits harder than that and is up every ~20 seconds. Hell, the animation probably makes it worse for DPS in some cases. I was speaking more of Ageless though.
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While I personally wouldn't mind this being held on test, there is another issue to consider. Isn't it trivially easy to get access to top end IOs there that you otherwise wouldn't necessarily have on your live character?
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
I really want to work with you guys on this. I know that the transfers are an issue, and I certainly don't want to seem like I'm elbowing anyone to transfer to our server, but that's out of my hands- The larger event is not mine, so I can't control where it is taking place. |
PL'd my scrapper 1 to 39 last night. Should be able to finish him off tonight or tomorrow. So definately count me in.
Now I just have to scrounge up the money to set him out. I'm pretty broke because I just made a SS/REG brute, a STJ/EnA brute, and a DP/Time corr. Hmmm... I guess one of my dusty older 50's is getting stripped out.
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Ageless is permitted though, right?
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Originally Posted by Keplar
I was speaking more of Ageless though.
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Originally Posted by Rad_Avenger
Ageless is permitted though, right?
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
-No Judgement Lore Pets (Interface and Alpha are ok- After seeing how vocal the community was about this, Destiny is ok too.)
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Speaking of which, you guys have all been pretty vocal about the Incarnate restrictions and I understand that. I've decided to update the OP to reflect that Destiny powers will be allowed.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Right, I decided to allow Destiny because I felt people made a good case for it.
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Stone shakes the magic 8 ball:
All signs point to yes.
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This is a correct statement. That and currently the character copy tool doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by Stone Daemon
While I personally wouldn't mind this being held on test, there is another issue to consider. Isn't it trivially easy to get access to top end IOs there that you otherwise wouldn't necessarily have on your live character?
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Originally Posted by Zyphoid
That and currently the character copy tool doesn't work.
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Yeah, I could see that being a bit of a deal-breaker.
I'm considering upping my investment in this a bit. I'll have to talk to Stone about how exactly I want to go about doing that, but expect an update within the next week.
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So did i xD
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Originally Posted by DreadShinobi
lol'd
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When you say potential time wasters, is this a reference to non-Scrapper ATs being unlikely to solo pylons? My Fire/Cold Corr eats up pylons in under three minutes without Lore pets.
Personally, I like the idea of a Scrapper only competition, because at the end of the day, its muscle vs. Pylon ... but just had to ask.
I don't have a good pylon soloing Scrapper right now, but this is an interesting project to consider, particularly given your limitation on gathering fodder - that evens the playing field a bit for the Darks/Shields
Perhaps I will level something up and have a go at it. Thx for hosting!