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Question, you don't have any kind of GPU-computing client (RC5, Bitcoin, @Home, etc) running in the background do you?|
Originally Posted by Emberly
I am using a Radeon 5850 card with 11.9 Catalyst package. My PC is a Q6600 with 8 GB RAM.
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Apps like these, designed to max out your GPU, will cause UGLY amounts of lag in Mids.
If you guys experiencing lag could toss out a HijackThis log, it might help identify the lag culprit.
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The lag thing is EXACTLY like using Mids when alt+tabbed, that's a perfect way to put it. |
Originally Posted by Muon_Neutrino
It's not just you with the lag, I'm getting it too, and the exact same time - when trying to place enhancements. It strongly reminds me of trying to use mids while alt-tabbed out of CoH when I still had my old slow laptop - I have to go very slowly and deliberately to let it keep up, or else I end up accidentally placing something wrong or closing the little enhancement popup box by clicking outside where it thinks it is.
I think I see a possible cause, though, because I *also* have a radeon 5850. I don't think it's drivers, because I know mine are out of date and I don't think yours are. I dunno what a q660 is, but I only have 4 gigs of ram, so of what you listed the only commonality is the video card. Here's an old post that has my complete system specs in it - is there any other overlap between your system and mine other than the video card? And could anyone else with this issue post their card and/or specs? |
Re: system specs: I also have a Corsair powersupply, an HX520. I am also running Win7-64 bit. Other than that not much in common other than my CPU is also a quad core, but it's an Intel.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Question, you don't have any kind of GPU-computing client (RC5, Bitcoin, @Home, etc) running in the background do you?
Apps like these, designed to max out your GPU, will cause UGLY amounts of lag in Mids. If you guys experiencing lag could toss out a HijackThis log, it might help identify the lag culprit. |
Here is a HijackThis log.
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Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.4 Scan saved at 8:26:24 AM, on 10/10/2011 Platform: Windows 7 (WinNT 6.00.3504) MSIE: Internet Explorer v9.00 (9.00.8112.16421) Boot mode: Normal Running processes: C:\Program Files (x86)\TeamViewer\Version6\TeamViewer.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\Steam.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\NCSoft\Launcher\NCLauncher.exe C:\Users\Michelle\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Drop box.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Password Safe\pwsafe.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Java\Java Update\jusched.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Winamp\winamp.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Notepad++\notepad++.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\plugin-container.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\uTorrent\uTorrent.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\plugin-container.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Reader 10.0\Reader\AcroRd32.exe C:\MIDS\Mids Hero Designer\Hero Designer.exe C:\Program Files (x86)\City of Heroes\CityOfHeroes.exe C:\Users\Michelle\Desktop\HijackThis.exe R1 - 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HKLM\..\Run: [StartCCC] "C:\Program Files (x86)\ATI Technologies\ATI.ACE\Core-Static\CLIStart.exe" MSRun O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [msnmsgr] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Messenger\msnmsgr.exe" /background O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Steam] "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steam.exe" -silent O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [NCsoft Launcher] C:\Program Files (x86)\NCSoft\Launcher\NCLauncher.exe /Minimized O4 - Startup: Dropbox.lnk = Michelle\AppData\Roaming\Dropbox\bin\Dropbox.exe O4 - Startup: Password Safe.lnk = C:\Program Files (x86)\Password Safe\pwsafe.exe O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office12\EXCEL.EXE/3000 O9 - Extra button: Send to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office12\ONBttnIE.dll O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: S&end to OneNote - {2670000A-7350-4f3c-8081-5663EE0C6C49} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office12\ONBttnIE.dll O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~2\MICROS~4\Office12\REFIEBAR.DLL O10 - 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Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: Apple Mobile Device - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Apple\Mobile Device Support\AppleMobileDeviceService.exe O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files (x86)\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe O23 - Service: cFosSpeed System Service (cFosSpeedS) - cFos Software GmbH - C:\Program Files\cFosSpeed\spd.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\efssvc.dll,-100 (EFS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\fxsresm.dll,-118 (Fax) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\fxssvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: iPod Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe O23 - Service: @keyiso.dll,-100 (KeyIso) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @comres.dll,-2797 (MSDTC) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\msdtc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\netlogon.dll,-102 (Netlogon) - 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Valve Corporation - C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Steam\SteamService.exe O23 - Service: TeamViewer 6 (TeamViewer6) - TeamViewer GmbH - C:\Program Files (x86)\TeamViewer\Version6\TeamViewer_Service.exe O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\ui0detect.exe,-101 (UI0Detect) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\UI0Detect.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vaultsvc.dll,-1003 (VaultSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\lsass.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\vds.exe,-100 (vds) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\System32\vds.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\vssvc.exe,-102 (VSS) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\vssvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\Wat\WatUX.exe,-601 (WatAdminSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\Wat\WatAdminSvc.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%systemroot%\system32\wbengine.exe,-104 (wbengine) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbengine.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%Systemroot%\system32\wbem\wmiapsrv.exe,-110 (wmiApSrv) - Unknown owner - C:\Windows\system32\wbem\WmiApSrv.exe (file missing) O23 - Service: @%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing) -- End of file - 8765 bytes |
I'll add my voice to those getting "lag" when adding enhancements.
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What happens when you AREN'T running CoH? Do you still get lag?
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Originally Posted by Emberly
Here is a HijackThis log.
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Yep, sure do. Makes it worse when running CoX, but still laggy when the game isn't running.
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
What happens when you AREN'T running CoH? Do you still get lag?
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I use Mids a LOT to satiate the altitis! I appreciate you guys and your work so much!
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Muon, Emberly - I run into the exact same issues, and I have a 8800GTX, so it's not ATI. Also on WinXP 32bits.
Get the same lag here.... thought it was just my crammy computer...
Great job on it though
Well, there're tons of places where Mids can be optimized... I'm mostly just doing internal code optimization right now and not touching the graphics-side.
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Originally Posted by Diellan_
Well, there're tons of places where Mids can be optimized... I'm mostly just doing internal code optimization right now and not touching the graphics-side.
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Originally Posted by DeProgrammer
I believe I've identified the source of this lag issue, and we'll try to make sure it's fixed in the next release.
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I too can't see Destiny Powers.
Even more weird than that is some Alpha powers don't seem to work on everything.
On my Night Widow build, Spiritual Core Paragon seems to work on everything but Mind Link.
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This is Working As Intended. Mind Link cannot be slotted with Recharge enhancements*, therefore the Alpha Spiritual will have no effect on it.|
Originally Posted by Giant2005
On my Night Widow build, Spiritual Core Paragon seems to work on everything but Mind Link.
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*Yes, I realize you can get around this with IOs that have a recharge effect, but that is of no relevance to the Alpha powers.
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That bug is fixed for the next version.|
Originally Posted by Giant2005
I too can't see Destiny Powers.
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The enhancement-placing lag issue has been remedied.
Nice custom titles Diellan_ and DeProgrammer 
His keeps getting changed... And is in color. 
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Mwahahaha.
My text got changed the second time because I was told to ask if I wanted a different title. I'm blaming the first change on post #9. :P
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Wow I had no idea it didn't take recharge. Guess I haven't slummed it on SOs in too long!
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Originally Posted by Caulderone
This is Working As Intended. Mind Link cannot be slotted with Recharge enhancements*, therefore the Alpha Spiritual will have no effect on it.
*Yes, I realize you can get around this with IOs that have a recharge effect, but that is of no relevance to the Alpha powers. |
Fantastic news about the enhancement lag, DeProgrammer.
If only you guys were developers on the game itself...
Hey guys, thanks so much for all your work on this. Mids is fantastic, as I'm sure you know.
I just wanted to report another bug, if you didn't know about it already. All Tier 1 pool powers have been opened up at level 4 in the game now, not just the travel powers, but Mids only allows Travel powers to be taken at level 4. I just took Boxing at level 4 on a Brute in the game, but I can't select Boxing (or Maneuvers, Combat Jumping, or Stealth, etc.) at level 4 in Mids.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Liquid
Hey guys, thanks so much for all your work on this. Mids is fantastic, as I'm sure you know.
I just wanted to report another bug, if you didn't know about it already. All Tier 1 pool powers have been opened up at level 4 in the game now, not just the travel powers, but Mids only allows Travel powers to be taken at level 4. I just took Boxing at level 4 on a Brute in the game, but I can't select Boxing (or Maneuvers, Combat Jumping, or Stealth, etc.) at level 4 in Mids. Thanks! |
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Does anybody have a mirror for Mids downloads? The cohplanner.com site is down and has been down all week and I lost my copy of mids due to a machine upgrade.
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I totally suspect it is my PC somehow with the lag. My partner just tried it and wasn't able to reproduce the lag thing.
I think I see a possible cause, though, because I *also* have a radeon 5850. I don't think it's drivers, because I know mine are out of date and I don't think yours are. I dunno what a q660 is, but I only have 4 gigs of ram, so of what you listed the only commonality is the video card.
Here's an old post that has my complete system specs in it - is there any other overlap between your system and mine other than the video card? And could anyone else with this issue post their card and/or specs?
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