How do you get an IO that not on the market ?

The title is deceiving.

Preface: After reading some stuff and looking at Organica thread regarding leveling a toon I started playing the market game a bit and actually made some money on several toons. End result I made about 400 million.

So I have this Huntsman build I am looking to create to be range capped and Perma pets. My build needs 3 sets of 5 Positron IO's. I start looking and pretty much notice that many of these IOs are not on the market and the ones that are available are just a lot of money. I could blow probably 200 million or more just on getting these 3 sets.

I'm not trying to be cheap, but it does kill me I would have to spend TONS money on the single IO that is available of that type or buy the premade which would be even higher.

I'm still trying to figure out or get a feel on how to buy and sell so I'm a bit leery being afraid to screw up big. Plus to be honest what seems to take people a few minutes a night seems to take me about an hour or more because I'm scanning the market for the different prices between crafted an the IO and then looking at the other levels and what is available.

I figured there has to be a better way. I have numerous farm toons to get AE tickets. But when I started to try to figure out what to roll for what type of IO I just got stuck and confused. I started reading about the pools but then noticed some where combined. That just threw me off even more.

I understood what level to roll to make make some money with AE tickets but I just don't get what to roll to attempt to get a certain IO.

Does anyone know how to or can just give a bit of guidance on how to interpret the wiki info. I don't need a full blown detail to waste someones time. Just a head start and I can follow up if I get stuck.

The recipe for a Positron triple is never available when I want one, especially as a mid-30s. And while I can well afford it, I'm still too much of a cheapskate to pay for crafted enhancements. So I just buy the recipe with regular Reward Merits. It's one of the few Set IO pieces that I will do that after a cursory check of the Market. I could do Hero Merits, but I only have around half a dozen of them between all my characters compared to the thousands of Reward Merits I have available.

Oh, and how do I hunt and gather all the Set pieces I need for a build? I set out bids (typically low-ball) for stacks of the recipes and wait a year.

Personally, I'd place bids for the IOs at a level below level 50, since level 50 is always going to be the most expensive. When an IO is scarce, the ones listed for sale generally sell instantly to the highest current bidder. But you may be waiting for a week or so for the bid to fill.

What kind of rolls would turn these up... I get confused on that too. Maybe TopDoc's thread would help?

Specifically which recipes and what level? I've got a perma 33 parked Tanker that runs in AE and I can keep an eye out for them. (Assuming level 33 is okay)

Here's the list

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Originally Posted by Shubbie Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.

Hey thanks for the replies.

@SerialBeggar
How do you have thousands of merits. Is it just making sure you get a TF done, especially the weekly specials ? Or is there some other way I am not aware of.

@Organica
I did read topdoc thread and a bunch others. For some reason yours was the catalyst that got me doing the market. So I do the rolls topdoc listed and then sell them on the market. The one thing I do that some might be against is I use my tickets to get the rare and uncommon salvage. Only because I find it easier to get the AE tickets then the money.

I do have to re-read your thread regarding the merits you acquired. I did the zone merits rewards though.

@DarksideLeague
The level isn't an issue as I just need the recharge bonus.

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The cool thing is you all pretty much said what I expected or knew. Which is great in the sense there isn't some big secret that I am just not getting or missing.

I guess its just getting off my duff and not being lazy about it if I want to do it. Part of me is whining saying I don't want to do this, but making the money and not selling off another purple I might want for the future is also pretty neat. I'm a bit of a hoarder myself. I have 3 IO bins almost full of stuff I just have yet to use. I think I have 4 sets of kinetic combats just wait for that day. When that day is I have no clue.

I would pay to have something that would tell me what I have on each toon instead of keeping to log off and on just to see what each has on the market, bank or on them personally.

I've got thousands of merits as well. How? Simply because I never use them. I should; I know, but truth is I have plenty of money from the market and simply buy crafted IOs that way.

Okay, here's the gimmick:

Don't spend enough to get the one that's currently listed.

Bid a more reasonable amount, and be prepared to wait for a while.

And by "more reasonable"... if you take something that's not a multiple of five (level 35 and 30 cost a lot more than 34 and 31), and leave some bids up... You can often pay 1/5 or less of what the "going rate" looks to be.

This, BTW, is a process that VERY much rewards an alt-heavy play style.

pretty much any IO you can think of is available for alignment merits, if it is non purple and non PVP then it will never cost more than 2 alignment merits

this is how i outfitted 3 kin combat sets on my ss/wp brute, saved alignment merit got what i needed, rinse and repeat

if i have multiple toons this goes faster and with very very little money output aside from buying the salvage

Wow .. Okay..

What everyone has been saying you guys pretty much said it all in the past. I have to say its just me. It was me being a bit lazy and hating the market. So I just purchased what I needed and used it for storage more then anything.

I just have been fortunate to get a boon fall of purple IOs for some strange reason. At one point I swore it was the costume I made on my Arch EM blaster because that was the toon that was getting all the drops. So I was able to sell a few here and there to flesh out toons.

Another issue was to me place a bid and wait meant 20 minutes of waiting. I just never thought about waiting a week. But I can say atm I did what some have said and I actually purchased some of those Positron IOs just over the length of time this thread has been out.

I learned my lesson not to fight it but understand it and and work with it. It really seems much better. My only issue now is I'm getting so involved in the market and I am trying to learn so much its killing my play time go figure.

But even with buying stuff I have made over 500k so far on my toons. I need to organize a bit more. I have stuff all over the place and I'm repeatedly logging in toons because I forget whats on what toon.

Again for some reason I read all the threads in the past and asked questions. But for some odd reason Organica thread just spurred me into action.. Who knows sometimes..

I highly recommend a personal SG for storing stuff. Take a look at my CEBR thread over in the Brute forums. In about 6 hours you can have a level 50 Brute on any server with enough Prestige in a personal SG for Salvage and Enhancement storage bins. Then you don't need to worry about keeping track of all of your stuff on your alts. Just email it to yourself and toss it into your storage base. Plus you can be pro-active about long-term bidding on the Enhancements you're going to need later, and just store them there till you actually need them.

Personally when I identify an IO that I like to use in builds and that is always in critically short supply or very expensive, I like to place a bid for 5 or 10 of them at a mid range level and a price I can live with, and just let the bids sit. You can do this on an alt that you don't play very much. If you purchase anything, craft and store away in your base.

I started pre-buying back in the "Days of Isolation", where each colony of characters in a server were on their own. It's a lot easier nowadays with gleemail. Of course, I still need to check half a dozen Bases to find something that I think I still have some of.

Each of my matured Bases has 8 enhancement storage bins, generally organized as:

1. ranged Set IOs
2. melee Set IOs
3. TAOE/PBAOE Set IOs
4. controls/buff/debuff Set IOs
5. armor Set IOs
6. heals/pets Set IOs
7. procs/Hami/purples
8. commons IOs (when not needed anymore, repurposed for misc overflow)

If you have an AE farmer then theres no reason to not have inf, imo. I rarely buy from the market but when i do i can afford to pay NAO prices. My last 50 (thanks to TopDocs farm, lol) i bought 3 sets of Kin Com crafted and some Oblits that i didnt have in a bin as soon as i hit 50.

Last night i made an alt on my wifes account. Its a claws/fire (again thanks TopDoc lmao) and my first 3000 tickets i got a lev 20 Steadfast Res/Def and a Rectified whatever it is. Not to mention crap drops and other good drops that are a little cheaper. So easily made 10's of millions on 2 IOs alone.

Also, hit PI for some purple drops to really boost your income. Solo moar for moar inf. Team moar for fun. Good luck.

In some cases IOs at level 46, 48 or so will be on sale for quite less than the level 50 equivalents.

When I was "strapped" for cash (ahem), I locked a Mastermind at level 33 and just ran villain tips, cashing the Alignment Merit for five recipes. In the end I made hundreds of millions off my sales, sent that ot my banker and so on. Remember that you can get an Alignment Merit every two days, so you can get the recipe you want every four days and much quicker if you run TFs to get Reward Merits and do the conversion that way.

Also, you can always post here on the forums or ask in "The Market" global channel about the items you seek and nice people might make a deal with you.