Doctor Who: Night Terrors - 3/9 (9/3)


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In regards to Doctor Who, I don't know how beneficial it would be to go back to the pure serial format. I've only seen a few of the classic serials, so it's possible they were just all crummy, but most of them really seemed to drag on much more than they needed to. I know the First Doctor is probably not the best place to look for refined serials, but I thought The Daleks was about twice as long as it needed to be.
By the time Tom Baker came around they'd cut most serials down to about 4 episodes (so, roughly a modern day two parter). In fact, I'd say by then they'd actually moved out of what would traditionally be called a serial anyway.
And of course they're not crummy, it's a show that's lasted for generations, you don't do that if you were crap.

One thing you have to remember about old Who (Doctor's 1 and 2 and to a lesser extend early 3), is that it was preformed live, like a play. Each episode might have had like, two or three cuts in it at most. All the rest was multiple cameras and actors rushing between sets while the focus is elsewhere.
That naturally has an effect on pacing. They also had to produce something along the lines of 44 episodes a year too. Each episode was made in a week, recorded live then broadcast a couple of days later.

So, dragging and padding isn't so much to do with the serial format and more to do with the limitations and conventions of the time.


 

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Seemed like a decent ep to me - not involved with the on-going story arc(s?), just a decent ep where they wanted to set up some scary and run with it. Better than the pirates one at least (which falls into the same category imho).


 

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Did the BBC also show an ad for Doctor Who toys, or was that just on BBC America?
BBC in the UK cannot show adverts, not even for their own DVDs.


I thought it was a decent episode, all pretty obvious but aimed for the younger viewer I think. Next weeks episode has me thinking of Sapphire and Steel.


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You do have to wonder, with a being with reality-shaping power "off the scale", how long until the Silence try to manipulate him to fight the Doctor?
I swear that just before he entered the doll's house; there was a Silence shadow just outside the door.

But yeah; the finalé is coming soon so I expected a 'filler' with limited locations and effects involved. I'd say it was better than Fear Her..... but only Love and Monsters was worse than that one *shudders*.


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Can anyone explain why there is so much "Fear Her" hate? I mean, yes, the episode had problems, but I certainly wouldn't use it as the standardized unit of badness in Doctor Who. It's been a bit since I've seen the episode, but I can't recall disliking so much that it stands out.


 

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Can anyone explain why there is so much "Fear Her" hate? I mean, yes, the episode had problems, but I certainly wouldn't use it as the standardized unit of badness in Doctor Who. It's been a bit since I've seen the episode, but I can't recall disliking so much that it stands out.
Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it was the only New-Who I've actually disliked completely. I even enjoyed Love & Monsters the first time.

I think Fear Her was just a perfect storm of a terrible story, terrible monster, rubbish characters and unbelievable cheesy-ness (the whole Olympic thing).
There was no excitement, no fear and just... no entertainment.


 

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But - and I should say...
No you shouldn't.


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But - and I should say...
Ha! Love it!


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Just finished watching it. It was okay. I think it really did a good job of fitting the original concept of the show, which was a show for young people.

I didn't really feel the danger in this one. Not like, say, the Weeping Angels or the Vashta Narada. The weird, yes, the danger, no.


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Every once in a while, my poor American ears don't pick up on some of the wording because of British accents. I'm unclear what they were calling the alien du jour and some of the details. I gather its a reality-bending creature, and somehow bonds with societies alien to it, but I really didn't catch the details.

I'm also unclear why the child's song was used at the end. Are they implying something about the alien knows something about the Doctor's fate? It seemed a little silly to again bring up the obituaries. Those who've followed the season know it very well. So I'm guessing I missed something that would justify showing it again.

Just saw the episode, yes, yes, sue me for being late


But what Rodoan said applied to me...hard to hear what The Doctor is saying sometimes.


But yes, overall a forgettable episode. Don't like creepy dolls though!


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But what Rodoan said applied to me...hard to hear what The Doctor is saying sometimes.
Rewind. Mute. Read closed captioning.


And it's not just the accent or the mumbling... it's the darned background music being too loud. And way too many shows are doing that.


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Rewind. Mute. Read closed captioning.


And it's not just the accent or the mumbling... it's the darned background music being too loud. And way too many shows are doing that.
Its no good. Even in closed captioning they're hard to understand. Whats all this stuff about lifts, lorries, bonnets and boots?

Joshing aside, you're dead-on ZM (um, no pun intended when I wrote that) regarding the background music being too loud. I've wondered for a couple of years now how the editors forgot that the speech is more important.


 

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It's odd, I've never had any problem with the music levels.


 

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Yeah, for me it's that Matt Smith says his lines so blasted fast. And sometimes goes from lines kinda said under his breath (that we're supposed to catch) to loudly proclaiming the solution to the problem. All very quickly.
At this point, I pretty much know a good portion of the UK slang, but sometimes these actors act like there's not enough time to say everything they need to say.


 

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Yeah, for me it's that Matt Smith says his like so blasted fast. And sometimes goes from lines kinda said under his breath (that we're supposed to catch) to loudly proclaiming the solution to the problem. All very quickly.
At this point, I pretty much know a good portion of the UK slang, but sometimes these actors act like there's not enough time to say everything they need to say.
Well with all the running they do, there usually isn't.


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Well with all the running they do, there usually isn't.
Heh. Remember how comedy shows used to parody West Wing by having the entire sketch happening while walking down hallways?

I can imagine a Doctor Who parody where every line is a cut to an actor running down a hallway and rounding a corner while breathless shouting their line.


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