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Which you cannot do if the server is down anyway, so why not play something? A level 1 character stays a level 1 character for what, all of 2 minutes?
That's pointless to me. I HATE being a lowbie and would rather not play. Do you understand?

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Server beign down for an hour, you'd probably be in the early teens. Still down? Run a posi. Mid teens. Look, progress. And you're doing what you (i assume) want to do - play the game.
That's great for someone who likes to level lowbie characters. I do not. I prefer outting my characters with gear. If I cannot access those characters, then I might as well not play.

Please understand not everyone wants to play the way you asking me to.

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And you can email yourself resources 8when the servers are back up* if you are worried about lack of INF, etc.

Then when your main server is back up -you can switch back over.

I don't see what's so abhorrent about the concept of *being able to play the game you want to play if your main server is down.*
Obviously, you don't understand but I'm done trying to convince you or others. I understand you position but if you understood mine then you wouldn't make such suggestions about rolling a new toon.

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Oh, hello Pot. Meet Kettle.
Really? Do you just hit reply and not think about what you're posting? I very much understand what Bill is saying to me, but I don't agree and consider it an acceptable alternative.

You guys are all meanie poo-poo heads. <emo>


 

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Sadly I don't quite have the disposable cash at the moment to buy HR, but I do have Chantelise, which I suppose means I'm in before the Talking About Other Video Games lock.
Mostly, I just meant that I did "other things" while the game was unavailable. I know how much it sucks when you want to play a game but can't, but there really are other things to do for a day.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Really? Do you just hit reply and not think about what you're posting? I very much understand what Bill is saying to me, but I don't agree and consider it an acceptable alternative.
Do you even bother to give any consideration to what I and others are saying, or do you skip straight on to the accusations and *****ing?

How about looking at this from the Dev/Support point of view; The servers were very clearly nertzed. Likely everyone was on hand to try and get the darn things back to working state ASAP, which likely takes a fair while when you;
1) Have to figure out what the hell was wrong in the first place
2) Get rid of the wrong-causing thing
3) Get a patch in to make everything work again
4) Get the servers down, patched and up again and make sure they STAY up

Oh, and 5) put up with people screaming about how horrible they are for something that is about as much their fault as...well, something they have little control over. Can you see the future in the machines? If so, I'm sure they'd love to hire you.

But, apparently, trying to be logical and reasonable about problems (And, yes, I WOULD have liked to go on last night too. But, strewth almighty, it's not the end of the bleeding world) is enough to get me labelled a boot and *** licker and Dev Apologist.

So, really, why should I bother with straight-faced replies to ingratiating little ****s with the common courtesy of pond-bilge, when I can have fun watching them rage instead?


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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I see it as a demonstration to many other players what I, in an East Asian timezone, occasionally have to put up with.

I never had any issues with the downtime and I'm in the East Coast


Granted, having a Dr. appt. in the morning then helping babysit my bro's kids then going to work and not getting back till 11pm (EDT) then going to bed...soo...no worries about servers going down for me

Sometimes it is nice to work the 2nd shift.


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So, really, why should I bother with straight-faced replies to ingratiating little ****s with the common courtesy of pond-bilge, when I can have fun watching them rage instead?
To be fair, Tech, that kind of stamp-out attitude tends to trod on actual legitimate arguments as a matter of course, and that really helps no-one, but to create even more animosity. The argument that if one server goes down, you can just play on another only works for a certain type of player, that is one who is just fine swapping between characters. This isn't the case for all of us. I grew up on single-character games and RPGs that, though they offered multiple characters, really emphasised you playing just one for the most part. When that one character I had in mind to play is unavailable or, worse still, becomes corrupted or turns out to be broken... There isn't much else left to do.

Now, I'm not saying asking for compensation for stupid things is justified. It isn't. These days, people will seemingly ask for compensation from the weather forecast if the sky was a bit too cloudy. However, not all complaints are completely and utterly devoid of reason and not all of them should be should be shot down with reckless abandon and total disregard. Even if people don't always react to problems in a constructive way, some problems really do exist.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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I'm always amused when new players rant, or demand refunds. (Which, by the way, a $5 refund? Isn't that a bit much?) Not so much on the part of, "They didn't get to play, and they deserve it/don't deserve it," but more on the part of everything all us old salty vets have been through since 2004 and just accepted because that's the way it was.

Ah, remember when there were only fifteen people who were paid to care about the game?


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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
To be fair, Tech, that kind of stamp-out attitude tends to trod on actual legitimate arguments as a matter of course, and that really helps no-one, but to create even more animosity. The argument that if one server goes down, you can just play on another only works for a certain type of player, that is one who is just fine swapping between characters. This isn't the case for all of us. I grew up on single-character games and RPGs that, though they offered multiple characters, really emphasised you playing just one for the most part. When that one character I had in mind to play is unavailable or, worse still, becomes corrupted or turns out to be broken... There isn't much else left to do.

Now, I'm not saying asking for compensation for stupid things is justified. It isn't. These days, people will seemingly ask for compensation from the weather forecast if the sky was a bit too cloudy. However, not all complaints are completely and utterly devoid of reason and not all of them should be should be shot down with reckless abandon and total disregard. Even if people don't always react to problems in a constructive way, some problems really do exist.
I'm not disputing that, not in the slightest. I often find myself in the same boat; it depends very heavily on what mood and mindset I am in when it comes to picking characters. If I'm not in the right frame of mind, I often find myself simply logging off and finding something else to do.

However, that is all kind of moot when servers are down. There's not much you CAN do other than find something to do. And that's no one's fault, really. It's when people come on harping on like the Devs are specifically going out of their way to hassle them (and only them, not anyone else. Their inconvenience and annoyance is of course paltry to the primary complainant ) that I break out the sarcasm because, honestly, it'll be fixed when it's fixed.

Damned either way; if the servers are up and buggy there will be whining, and if they're down to be fixed there is whining. C'est la vie.



(Oh, and when people start off-handedly insulting me, my intelligence and my life, despite not even living on the same continent as me, let alone country, despite not knowing me at all and yet somehow apparently having interior knowledge that even I don't have about myself. Really, there is no 'right' or 'logical' answer to such guff )


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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For that entire day, I played Human Revolution, instead.
ditto, and finished it off after playing it most of the week. i loved it but much prefer the original


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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha View Post
Do you even bother to give any consideration to what I and others are saying, or do you skip straight on to the accusations and *****ing?

How about looking at this from the Dev/Support point of view; The servers were very clearly nertzed. Likely everyone was on hand to try and get the darn things back to working state ASAP, which likely takes a fair while when you;
1) Have to figure out what the hell was wrong in the first place
2) Get rid of the wrong-causing thing
3) Get a patch in to make everything work again
4) Get the servers down, patched and up again and make sure they STAY up

Oh, and 5) put up with people screaming about how horrible they are for something that is about as much their fault as...well, something they have little control over. Can you see the future in the machines? If so, I'm sure they'd love to hire you.

But, apparently, trying to be logical and reasonable about problems (And, yes, I WOULD have liked to go on last night too. But, strewth almighty, it's not the end of the bleeding world) is enough to get me labelled a boot and *** licker and Dev Apologist.

So, really, why should I bother with straight-faced replies to ingratiating little ****s with the common courtesy of pond-bilge, when I can have fun watching them rage instead?
If you are a technician who works on servers and networks you know how you are viewed and don't care.

If something drops - the users say - why didn't you have a backup system in place. Nevermind that they refuse to pay extra for said redundant system.

Once it's up it isn't a thank you for fixing it - it is a what took so long?

If you can't deal with it don't get a job in the career field. It is the essential - what have you done for me lately career field.


 

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Actually, missing one day of gameplay would be 13.3 Paragon Points (400 divided by 30).

The change to f2p is a big one. I'd be fine if they shut everything down for a full day or two.


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Infernus, I'm not a technician. I just understand that technology is a fickle master and often loves to go wrong in many ways at once


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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

 

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I cannot email myself resources if the server is down. If the server is not down, then emailing resources to another alt is pointless.
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...I just understand that technology is a fickle master and often loves to go wrong in many ways at once
As opposed to the human brain, which endlessly goes wrong many ways at once!


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"I can't fix the roof while it's raining."
"So fix it when it's not raining."
"But when it's not raining, it doesn't leak."
Everyone is a comedian.


 

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Ditto Europe. When we had maintenance and downtime in the past, often slap bang in the middle of Prime Time, we were often told by American Players "Suck it up" and "Deal with it".

Funny how, now that it's the other way around, they are the wrongful aggrieved and we are Dev apologist boot-lickers
Them there boots, they taste good. Kind of like chicken.



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