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You can also one slot Shining Shield with steadfast defense or KB protection. I don't have your build... Just open it up in mids, work in the shield, and see if it puts you at 85% resistance.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
Very good info. I've read it before but pretty much forgot it -- thanks
 Since we're talking respecs, I've noted that Light Form alone won't necessarily get you to the 85% Smashing/Lethal resist cap for Khelds. Lets say you have Light Form slotted to get you as much S/L resist as it can, what would be the best minimal slotting or IOing elsewhere to get you that extra bit of S/L resist? My current light form slotting, which I may change, gets me around 77% S/L resist when on. If I don't change slotting for it, what else can get me that extra 8% with as minimal investment as possible. I'm thinking Shining Shield single slotted. Would that alone be enough even without a resist IO in it (maybe you can afford the Gladiator +Def proc and want to put it there)? I can't seem to find the numbers for it anywhere (I'm not home). |
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I've got the steadfast in Incadescence already. I'll do Mids when I get home; it's just that 'gettin home' is several hours from now and when I get a thought in my head I'm figgity until I find out, so was hoping someone knew right off. Basically, if Shining Shield (1 slotted) can get me around 9% S/L defense I'm good |
Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
You can also one slot Shining Shield with steadfast defense or KB protection. I don't have your build... Just open it up in mids, work in the shield, and see if it puts you at 85% resistance.
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You could also grab the fighting pool using tough for that extra resistance and weave for a good amount of extra defense/LotG mule. A shield wall unique would be the most expensive way to fix it but require only one slot.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
I've got the steadfast in Incadescence already. I'll do Mids when I get home; it's just that 'gettin home' is several hours from now and when I get a thought in my head I'm figgity until I find out, so was hoping someone knew right off. Basically, if Shining Shield (1 slotted) can get me around 9% S/L defense I'm good
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Well, I'm hoping that Shining Shield 1-slotted will provide about 9% S/L Resist cuz that's all I need. I want Weave, but I'd rather skip Tough as it's likely not needed to reach S/L resist cap with Light Form if Shining Sheild does as I hope. I'd get Kick and Boxing as 4-slot Kinetic Combat mules and requirements for Weave. |
Originally Posted by Microcosm
You could also grab the fighting pool using tough for that extra resistance and weave for a good amount of extra defense/LotG mule. A shield wall unique would be the most expensive way to fix it but require only one slot.
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Shield Wall..couple Billion Inf for +3% resist... Uhm no, I can't believe people pay for that one.
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Shining Shield provides 22.5% resistance unslotted, so you'll definitely be fine going that route.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
Well, I'm hoping that Shining Shield 1-slotted will provide about 9% S/L Resist cuz that's all I need. I want Weave, but I'd rather skip Tough as it's likely not needed to reach S/L resist cap with Light Form if Shining Sheild does as I hope. I'd get Kick and Boxing as 4-slot Kinetic Combat mules and requirements for Weave.
Shield Wall..couple Billion Inf for +3% resist... Uhm no, I can't believe people pay for that one. |
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Yep, found out in Mids. So, I'll maybe put a -KB protection Steadfast there (to go with my Zephyr one in flight - that'll really keep me from getting KBd). Maybe eventually I save and get that PVP Gladiator Def Proc *cringes at the cost*
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Originally Posted by Microcosm
Shining Shield provides 22.5% resistance unslotted, so you'll definitely be fine going that route.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
Yep, found out in Mids. So, I'll maybe put a -KB protection Steadfast there (to go with my Zephyr one in flight - that'll really keep me from getting KBd). Maybe eventually I save and get that PVP Gladiator Def Proc *cringes at the cost*
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I just bought mine the other day with Villain merits. It only took about 12 years.
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I just bought mine the other day with Villain merits. It only took about 12 years.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
I just bought mine the other day with Villain merits. It only took about 12 years.
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Note: Kids, there is no way in heaven the Gladiator Def Proc is worth this much. It's simply that I had all the IOs I wanted on that toon, and I had plenty of spare change haha... And this isn't real money.
What were the purple recipes? It sounds like you might have gotten a bad deal. 
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
What were the purple recipes? It sounds like you might have gotten a bad deal.
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But the character in question already had the Purples she needed/wanted, and I had several billion spread out among many toons... so I said, what the heck and traded for it.
And apparently, many others are willing to get extorted like this. That Gladiator Proc regularly goes for 2 billion on the Market, and if you look in the Inventions Forum, you'll see people advertizing to sell one for enormous prices - that's how I found my seller (the scoundrel haha). There's one going for 3 billion as we type.
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
I just bought mine the other day with Villain merits. It only took about 12 years.
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I usually do the duo and spring for LOTG 7.5% recharge, gift wrap it and put in on the market. When you really crunch the numbers those high end PvP purples are really splitting hairs...and I don't have many hairs to split these days
I tried going for it when they first released that program, but gave up after getting 10 Hero Merits. I just don't have that kind of time--nor do I have the money... So, I was screwed either way.
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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I'm just a casually/serious marketeer (oxymoron?) I don't flip stuff; don't use AE for tickets, don't buy and horde stuff to make the price artificially high, etc. |
Originally Posted by AlienOne
I tried going for it when they first released that program, but gave up after getting 10 Hero Merits. I just don't have that kind of time--nor do I have the money... So, I was screwed either way.
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I just run regular content, and when I'm done I stop by the market, see what I have, and do a quick check to see if the salvage or recipe (crafted) will make me at least a million. If it will, I'll craft it and put it out there for roughly the going price (usually a bit lower). Takes a few minutes each time I play, tops.
I sell everthing (salvage, recipes) that won't make me at least a million for 1 inf (or sell at a store if I happen to be near one).
This will usually earn you a couple billion Inf well before you can earn 30 a-merits. Then you can buy the sucker from the market or somebody.
I shamelessly flip and use AE tickets on a daily basis. I'll have the rest of the cash for the FOTG -Res proc in like three hours, and then I'll officially be done with my Human Form build.
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I tried going for it when they first released that program, but gave up after getting 10 Hero Merits. I just don't have that kind of time--nor do I have the money... So, I was screwed either way.
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You know, with issue 21, if you can find the time to do one of each incarnate trial every day, you'll have enough Empyrean merits for the IO in 10 days (assuming they're successful runs.)
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Alternativley, rack up Astrals and get the LOTG globals and sell them and build up funds.
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Originally Posted by AlienOne
I tried going for it when they first released that program, but gave up after getting 10 Hero Merits. I just don't have that kind of time--nor do I have the money... So, I was screwed either way.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
Of course I got a bad deal. I knew that going in. Nothing is truly worth 2 Billion Inf + 2 Purples (one was a Ragnarok, can't remember the other). I think the going price for them at the time meant I gave about 2.5 billion for the Proc
But the character in question already had the Purples she needed/wanted, and I had several billion spread out among many toons... so I said, what the heck and traded for it. And apparently, many others are willing to get extorted like this. That Gladiator Proc regularly goes for 2 billion on the Market, and if you look in the Inventions Forum, you'll see people advertizing to sell one for enormous prices - that's how I found my seller (the scoundrel haha). There's one going for 3 billion as we type. |
However that 3% def proc....if I can build a character that is S/L softcapped, I'm not going to make a spot for that proc and work toward getting it. That extra 3% likely will not soft cap other defenses, and since regular soft cap is 45% and incarnate trial softcap is 60%, then that extra 3% for 2 billion isn't going to help much either.
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I gotta be honest here, nothing in the game is truly worth 2 billion inf.
However that 3% def proc....if I can build a character that is S/L softcapped, I'm not going to make a spot for that proc and work toward getting it. That extra 3% likely will not soft cap other defenses, and since regular soft cap is 45% and incarnate trial softcap is 60%, then that extra 3% for 2 billion isn't going to help much either. |
Making inf in this game is so easy that if you can afford it you might as well go for it. Not to mention there are ways to get everything that don't cost any money whatsoever. I didn't feel like heckling with people over an item that couldn't be bought on the market so I stealthed tips for 10-15 minutes every day until I had the merits for it.
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I work alignment and emp merits for the ones I need and yes one can rack up funds fast, but that 3% def is not worth the 2 billion
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Originally Posted by TwoHeadedBoy
Making inf in this game is so easy that if you can afford it you might as well go for it. Not to mention there are ways to get everything that don't cost any money whatsoever. I didn't feel like heckling with people over an item that couldn't be bought on the market so I stealthed tips for 10-15 minutes every day until I had the merits for it.
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Nothing in the game is really worth 2 billion, and no RL Diamond is worth 2 thousand, but in a free market if you want it you have to pay what they offer. I agree about the S/L softcap thing - if I could get a toon there without it I wouldn't bother. Heck I only have it on one toon anyway, so I don't really bother already...|
Originally Posted by Nericus
I gotta be honest here, nothing in the game is truly worth 2 billion inf.
However that 3% def proc....if I can build a character that is S/L softcapped, I'm not going to make a spot for that proc and work toward getting it. That extra 3% likely will not soft cap other defenses, and since regular soft cap is 45% and incarnate trial softcap is 60%, then that extra 3% for 2 billion isn't going to help much either. |
Although I'm thinking of going for it on my respecced PB...
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I work alignment and emp merits for the ones I need and yes one can rack up funds fast, but that 3% def is not worth the 2 billion
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If it's not worth it to you, don't use it.
I personally find it helpful and I was able to get it... So I'm glad I did.
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Originally Posted by Socorro
Nothing in the game is really worth 2 billion, and no RL Diamond is worth 2 thousand, but in a free market if you want it you have to pay what they offer. I agree about the S/L softcap thing - if I could get a toon there without it I wouldn't bother. Heck I only have it on one toon anyway, so I don't really bother already...
Although I'm thinking of going for it on my respecced PB... |
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Well I had my main PB perm lightform build designed and respeced into prior to launch of ish 21. Since ish 21 hit the PB was doing quite well most of the time, reaping all the benefits of perm lightform, defense capped in human form and the occasional need to transform. However that build was using both Hasten and T4 Spiritual Core Paragon plus IO sets......
...which sadly led to an occasional power drain, defense toggles shutting down issue if I mistimed a LF crash and missed popping a blue. Not an insurmountable obstacle, more of a giant nuisance. So now that most of the dust of ish 21's release has begun to settle, and Street Justice isn't available yet I was able to sit back down and take another look at the build and modified it into basically Permalightform 2.0, hasten and IO bonuses only to make lightform perma by 5 seconds. This is good since this means I can now restore CARDIAC into the PB and keep defenses capped. Still designing the Permalightform 2.1 build which would not need hasten but will need T4 Spiritual Core Paragon and IO sets. Permlightform 3.0 would not need hasten or Spiritual, just IO bonuses but at the cost of losing some of the defense cap, and the cost of getting purples.
I'm coming a bit late to the conversation, Joe, so you may have already respecced your PB. But here is what I am running with and I find that he is VERY sturdy and does some decent damage in all forms.
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Bubba Flea - proposed: Level 50 Natural Peacebringer
Primary Power Set: Luminous Blast
Secondary Power Set: Luminous Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Medicine
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Glinting Eye
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (3) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (3) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (39) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
- (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance
- (9) Doctored Wounds - Heal
- (9) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
- (11) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
- (13) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (13) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
- (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (19) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (19) Recharge Reduction IO
- (21) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (21) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
- (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (23) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (29) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (33) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Miracle - Heal
- (34) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (34) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
- (36) Endurance Reduction IO
- (A) Healing IO
- (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
- (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Interrupt Reduction IO
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
- (39) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (A) Interrupt Reduction IO
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
- (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Ageless Partial Radial Invocation
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Accuracy IO
- (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth
- (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (A) Flight Speed IO
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (34) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (11) Performance Shifter - EndMod
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Level 6: Bright Nova Bolt
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (37) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (37) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
- (40) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (40) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (15) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
- (42) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
- (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
- (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (48) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (46) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (46) Eradication - Damage
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (50) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
- (A) Mocking Beratement - Accuracy/Recharge
- (50) Mocking Beratement - Taunt/Recharge/Range
Set Bonus Totals:
- 3% DamageBuff(Smashing)
- 3% DamageBuff(Lethal)
- 3% DamageBuff(Fire)
- 3% DamageBuff(Cold)
- 3% DamageBuff(Energy)
- 3% DamageBuff(Negative)
- 3% DamageBuff(Toxic)
- 3% DamageBuff(Psionic)
- 11.75% Defense(Melee)
- 20.5% Defense(Smashing)
- 20.5% Defense(Lethal)
- 3% Defense(Fire)
- 3% Defense(Cold)
- 20.5% Defense(Energy)
- 20.5% Defense(Negative)
- 3% Defense(Psionic)
- 12.69% Defense(Ranged)
- 3% Defense(AoE)
- 3.6% Max End
- 25% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 4% Enhancement(Heal)
- 18.75% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 20% FlySpeed
- 144.6 HP (13.5%) HitPoints
- 20% JumpHeight
- 20% JumpSpeed
- Knockback (Mag -8)
- Knockup (Mag -8)
- MezResist(Confused) 2.5%
- MezResist(Held) 2.5%
- MezResist(Immobilize) 16.8%
- MezResist(Sleep) 2.5%
- MezResist(Stun) 2.5%
- MezResist(Terrorized) 4.7%
- 17% (0.28 End/sec) Recovery
- 24% (1.07 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 4.41% Resistance(Fire)
- 4.41% Resistance(Cold)
- 20% RunSpeed
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Since we're talking respecs, I've noted that Light Form alone won't necessarily get you to the 85% Smashing/Lethal resist cap for Khelds. Lets say you have Light Form slotted to get you as much S/L resist as it can, what would be the best minimal slotting or IOing elsewhere to get you that extra bit of S/L resist?
My current light form slotting, which I may change, gets me around 77% S/L resist when on. If I don't change slotting for it, what else can get me that extra 8% with as minimal investment as possible.
I'm thinking Shining Shield single slotted. Would that alone be enough even without a resist IO in it (maybe you can afford the Gladiator +Def proc and want to put it there)? I can't seem to find the numbers for it anywhere (I'm not home).