Why won't people listen? MY RANT
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Posted on: 2011-08-26 08:56 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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We've also been trained to shoot/hack inanimate objects whenever possible.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Tactics and situational awareness are a lost art. The average gamer nowadays have been conditioned to either a) shoot/hack everything that moves and b) only use the accelerator in driving games.
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Also: Nurburgring and Laguna Seca are brutal braking teachers, and far too common in racing games.
Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Rather intriguingly, I tend to assume by default that most of the current CoH playerbase is older than I am. (29 for the curious) And with that said, I'd argue that intelligence and incompetence aren't bound by age you'll find both awesome and horrible players regardless.
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Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
We're about to get an influx of A) people who aren't old enough to afford $15/mo to play the game...
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As I recall, someone did a study for a research paper and found the average age in this game was 28.
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Originally Posted by Zamuel
Rather intriguingly, I tend to assume by default that most of the current CoH playerbase is older than I am. (29 for the curious)
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You need to read this. Everyone needs to read it.
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Originally Posted by shaggy5
Maybe I am overbearing, but I REALLY don't think so.
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I don't need to read it, because I never lead groups. |
Originally Posted by Daemodand
You need to read this. Everyone needs to read it.
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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Thing is, 99% of CoH can be played like that, particularly with an IOed + Incarnated character. No need to think, just kill em all.|
Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Tactics and situational awareness are a lost art. The average gamer nowadays have been conditioned to either a) shoot/hack everything that moves and b) only use the accelerator in driving games.
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Which is part of why I love this game
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Ah...So you figured out early the fly likes the honey. |
Originally Posted by Icy_J
This is EXACTLY why I chat it up during a team of any sorts. More friendly communication means more people willing to follow a few orders, because they've warmed up to the team already. Yes, some people leave due to my chatter, but numbers don't really bother me. If the team is fun to play with, I'm gonna have fun regardless.
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Thats my tactic too
And considdering I am hear impaired I find that chat is my communication over vent or toher mediums, so if Im chatting in a friendly manner most people listen and dont mind doing so if I happen to be leader.
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http://xkcd.com/357/
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Originally Posted by Nyx
Ah...So you figured out early the fly likes the honey.
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@Roderick
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To be fair, balsamic vinegar is pretty different than a lot of other vinegars.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
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Fruit flies are more attracted to balsamic vinegar (which is made from grape juice) and apple cider vinegar presumably because they are *fruit* flies and possibly because the fruit-based vinegar is easier to consume than the honey. One wonders how the experiment would fare if one used other types of flies, white/distilled vinegar, and just for a lark threw a container of honey-based vinegar into the mix as well.
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Originally Posted by Roderick
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Goodbye may seem forever
Farewell is like the end
But in my heart's the memory
And there you'll always be
-- The Fox and the Hound
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TWELVE screens of solid text?!?!?|
Originally Posted by Daemodand
You need to read this. Everyone needs to read it.
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I'll pass.
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That's because they are 2 of the most awesome real-world race tracks in existence. |
Originally Posted by Tenzhi
Also: Nurburgring and Laguna Seca are brutal braking teachers, and far too common in racing games.
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I love those tracks in racing games.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
You'd think the vahzilok badge in the new sewer trial would be easy to get, Just take down the av first, but no 
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This is... some kinda irony, isn't it? The only reason they are pathetic is the sheer number of speed runs that were done before Merits were introduced.
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Originally Posted by Organica
Anything to speed up a Katie is a good idea... the rewards for that TF are pathetic.
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QFT.|
Originally Posted by Thirty-Seven
This is... some kinda irony, isn't it? The only reason they are pathetic is the sheer number of speed runs that were done before Merits were introduced.
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And even after merits were introduced, Double XP Weekend brought upon teams of level 50s that would speed Katie TFs for hours on end due to the massive inf/time ratio.
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This game doesn't require the drill sergeant personality type.
There's nothing in this game that can't be facerolled. Ordering people around isn't needed.
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Then you are not reading...I gave one (!!) order/request for the entire TF. I didn't say, "Get behind the road" "Get out of Spawn spot" "Only flyers!!" Or any of the usual leader mantras on Katie. I simply asked them to do one thing. Hardly what I would call drill sergeant.
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Originally Posted by Nihilii
This game doesn't require the drill sergeant personality type.
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Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers
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Yes, things can be facerolled, but that doesn't mean they always should be. If people has followed my ONE request, it would have gone faster. There were many deaths because people didn't listen. No, debt isn't a big deal anymore, death isn't huge, but this mentality of "do what I want because it will all work out, even if it takes longer" tends to frustrate me. Seeing people's responses, it clearly doesn't frustrate others.
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Originally Posted by Emberly
There's nothing in this game that can't be facerolled. Ordering people around isn't needed.
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Global Name: Denver Nugget
Playing since i3 on 8 servers
Study the guide upthread Shaggy5. It has all the answers you're looking for.
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I don't consider the directions you gave on your Katie to be 'barking orders' or 'playing the drill sergeant'. I agree with you that a little direction often helps. |
Originally Posted by shaggy5
Yes, things can be facerolled, but that doesn't mean they always should be. If people has followed my ONE request, it would have gone faster. There were many deaths because people didn't listen. No, debt isn't a big deal anymore, death isn't huge, but this mentality of "do what I want because it will all work out, even if it takes longer" tends to frustrate me. Seeing people's responses, it clearly doesn't frustrate others.
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There are often different methods of completing a given trial/TF. Generally, I don't really mind which method is used so long as it is clearly communicated. What I find to be frustrating is that something took longer than it had to because people weren't co-operating. Things are much more enjoyable when people are actually playing as a team, regardless of the method chosen.
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This is EXACTLY why I chat it up during a team of any sorts. More friendly communication means more people willing to follow a few orders, because they've warmed up to the team already. Yes, some people leave due to my chatter, but numbers don't really bother me. If the team is fun to play with, I'm gonna have fun regardless.
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