Something that happened last night

I had a funny experience last night. Before you blast me, I am giving myself the blame. I made a mistake, but here is what happened:

I am not a farmer, but sometimes I get bored and I pull out my fire/fire tank and farm in AE enough to get a gold recipe, then move on. I announced in Atlas that someone could join me (free, mind you). Two people jumped at it. We ran through three missions. One of the guys says, "My main toon is lvl 42; this toon is just for fun". I asked if he had any 50s and he said no. He said that he could never find a team (on Freedom, at that!).

So I said, "Do a bunch of ITFs. You can level fast and they are always happening"

He says, "What are ITFs?"

So I had him switch to his main (lvl 42). I hooked him up with a TF channel and explained how it worked. I did the entire Cimerora Arc for him as quickly as I could so he could enter Midnighters.

Even though I was running out of time, I organized an ITF and asked that we do a speed run. This is where we ran into our problems and where I take the blame. If I didn't have time, I should have just not done the TF. So my team is the 42 (with no IO, heck maybe no SOs) and a bunch of debuff.

Well, we get through through the first three missions, but I do most of the killing/work because my team is squishes (not because they were all bad players). There is a lot of death, if you don't include me. Another mistake, since I had been farming, we did the first mish on +4. Again, I do fine, but my team does not.

Anyway, the new guy, understandably, says he cannot take anymore during the 3rd mission and says he is going to quit. I try to tell him he would be done in like 10 minutes, but he says this is not for him, that he hates it, and "maybe we would do better if you didn't keep jumping around everywhere" (meaning he was upset that I was speeding it and didn't understand the concept).

I told him to quit if he wanted, and I wasn't really mad. Again, I could have trained him MUCH MUCH better. Our "not so successful" speed took about 55 min and I totally failed in helping him want to do another ITF.

Oops! So if you are the lvl 42, sorry. Seriously, I am supposed to go through fast and jump around on a speed, but I wasn't a great liaison to the easiest tf to use to level.

And to those who stuck it out with me. YOU ROCK.

So if anyone needs me to help you learn more about the game, just ask. HA!

Yeah, you prolly coulda handled that a bit better. XD I don't get his comment about not finding a team on Freedom, sorta; since Incarnates came out, a LOT of players have narrowed down their alting to just their 50s for the Incarnate work, so there's a bit of a dearth there for true public teams. Arranged teams are still no problem in general, but if the player isn't connected to the right globals or SG communities, they'll have a harder time.

IMO, putting a relative newbie into a speed ITF is lethal. That TF is really geared towards players are are comfortable in their skins; for newcomers who're still feeling their builds out, getting a lasso on their neck and pulling them around at breakneck speed with all the red numbers popping up around is a good way to get them frustrated. =/ Next time, I'd say try doing the Praetorian intro arcs from PI. That's a good lead-in to what "else" is out there, gets you fair XP, and lets you build cred towards the buff accolades to boot.

Anyway, GL finding that guy again.

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Agreed on two areas:

1) ITF is available, but fairly hard if you are new. My mind just went to ways to get him xp beyond being Pled.

2) It is harder to find teams with the new trials.

I've done ITF with a high 40s where it took five years and we had 9,000 deaths, and then the leader abandoned us after Rommy ate us for lunch, dinner, and breakfast the next morning. I was on a very poorly slotted MA/Inv, who now kicks A, but then sucked A.

Recently, I ran with a lv 35 tank, and worked really well as the 2nd tank. We got our Master of. [But it was Hoarde people, not a pug.]

I have only quit two TFs in the last year. One was the worst, most mutinous pug you've ever seen. Not mutiny, anarchy. Epic opinions/attitudes. The other was Numina and we got Zombies in one zone and Rikti invasion in another, we were all tired and just shut it down.

There is a demographic in CoH that doesn't really play the game. They like to chat on broadcast in Atlas and get PLed. The only time they'll leave is to unlock their capes. In which case they do blind invites until they get a full team of people to do their work for them.

Aw, don't be hard on yourself, your heart was in the right place. I mean you took the time to go through the midnighter's arc with the guy and everything. I do think that a speed ITF is a bit much for someone with so little experience (but that's largely because I'm not a huge fan of speed anythings, I prefer to take my time and get as many drops/shards/shinies as possible, but that's a personal thing, many people love love love speed runs), but again, you went above and beyond, I think.

Kudos for being willing to give someone a hand and show the the ropes. Seriously.

I don't think the problem was the "ITF" part, the problem was the "Speed" part. You can't really take someone new into a TF and charge on at speed and expect them to keep up with no knowledge on what to do, a rookie really needs a bit more guidance and things explained to them.
Granted, you didn't have time for anything elaborate but I think a better solution would have been adding him as a friend and taking him through another day when you could committ to a proper tutorial.

I was stopped playing for a couple of years due to IRL stuff, and I came back a few years ago. I was on my level 50 at the time it was my only level 50 ( it was hard to level to 50 back then). Some one told me about the ITF I was like ok what is that? The told me how to get to it and everything. Mind u this was pre incarnate and AE came out. We did my midnighters arc in less then 30 min, then did a speedy ITF where I think I died like once or twice. But through the whole thing I was being told what to expect and we got done in less the 50 min. Also I was like WHAT? DEFEAT HOW MANY CRYSTALS? Back then it was hard to just defeat 1. But i had tons of fun and when my toons get to a certain lvl I try to do the midnighters arc just to do ITFs.

Another funny thing happened last night, I was on a 24 person BAF and we had 7-8 tanks and brutes mixed in the teams. I forget who pulled NS but when her and the Vic's got to the courts they were running amuk and killing all the softies.

The leader screamed out ( with all these tanks and brutes doesn't anyone have taunt? ) and one of the fire brutes replies ( You don't need taunt to farm ) so me and the few vets that were on the team went WTF? lol.

Only the stone tank had taunt and that actually saved the rest of the squishies.

One guy wanted to run the BAF again but on a different map and I just about lost it lol

Its not AE people! lol

I took a team of 8 on an ITF a couple of days ago. My first to lead. I had 1 other person who had done it before and I was glad about that. We did it slow and it went amazingly well. The part where you pull the AV's down, I've never seen how it was done so I was real happy the other experienced guy knew how. Worked our way up the right side to Rommie. Killed all the traitors before we got to him Best thing is we took our time, the one luxury you didn't have.

I don't know why I don't lead more often, lack of responseability I guess

I know what it's like to be thrown into an ITF. I've been playing CoH for over five years, but had a break around the time the ITF became available. Sinse returning to the game, I've only done a few ITF's, and I still have no idea what's going on in them due to everyone wanting to speed through them. I'd love, just once, to have a slower run of the TF just so I can take it all in and learn what I have to do and where to do it.

Kudos to you for taking the time to help that new player out. Shame he/she became a bit hostile when things didn't go great in the ITF.

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[QUOTE=SpikyShane;3822049I'd love, just once, to have a slower run of the TF just so I can take it all in and learn what I have to do and where to do it.[/QUOTE]

I've never run it fast-fast. Never a run less than 50 minutes.

I guess in a speed run you just run away from the ambushes?